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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: Today at 08:16:14 AM »

Tom:
Biden’s just a little elected, Trump’s still good, he’s still good.

Biden’s just a little certified, Trump’s still good, he’s still good

Biden’s just a little inaugurated, Trump’s still good, he’s still good



Tom. You have spent months chasing one false hope after another. The courts were going to overturn it. Then the Supreme Court was. Then there was going to be an uprising on Inauguration Day.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, Biden is the President, just like basically everyone on here was telling you he was going to be. Y’know because he won the election. And sure, you can provide sources which are telling you what you want to hear. You may wish to consider that those are the same sources which provided you with all the false hope which has proven to be false hope.
At some point you’re going to have to reconcile yourself to the reality that Biden is the President and he’s going to be for the next 4 years.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Question about reacting to news that your world view was wrong

« on: January 22, 2021, 11:24:13 PM »

There are a couple of well understood psychological effects going on.
One is Cognitive Dissonance which is the explanation for a lot of the above. Basically it's where people are quite invested in a certain belief. When presented with evidence which shows that belief is not correct it's quite uncomfortable and that has to be resolved. The rational thing to do is to change your belief but many people simply become even more entrenched in their position and dismiss the evidence. People are more likely to do that if they have heavily invested in the belief.
Related to this is Confirmation Bias where people tend to find credible things which reinforce their beliefs and dismiss things which do not.
This is exacerbated by internet algorithms which can lead you down rabbit holes - I don't think it's malicious but people like Google and YouTube will show you things they think you're interested in based on things you've looked at previously. That can lead you to become more entrenched because you don't even see the other side of things.

The only thing you can do about all this is be aware of it and try to be introspective and check that you're not falling into these traps.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 22, 2021, 12:48:40 PM »

Must be so nice for Fauci now being able to deal with a grown up

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 21, 2021, 09:22:50 PM »

It’s just nice to feel that there’s a grown up in the White House. Someone who is going to actually take issues like climate change and the pandemic seriously and not spend every press conference either saying it’s all going to go away “like a miracle” or spend the entire time saying how well he’s doing as the bodies pile up.

And it’s nice to have a US President who seems to have some grip on reality and who won’t be constantly lying to everyone’s face. Which isn’t to say he won’t lie and twist the truth, but Biden won’t lie like Trump did. There won’t be the blatant, childish lies about being the best at everything, knowing the most about everything. It was so tiresome, thank God we have a bit of sanity back in the world.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 21, 2021, 05:58:28 PM »

Worst. President. Ever! Official.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 21, 2021, 04:57:01 PM »

Whats wrong with an ear piece? I'm sure he would be connected to security to be updated on events if there are any problems/breaches etc. Almost every VIP (who would also be targeted for assassination) would be wearing one.

I suppose you were one of the guys that were incensed when Obama wore a tan suit or used Dijon mustard but cool when Trump incited a mob to storm the capitol

Get a grip old man. No not down there

I think we have our first BDS sufferer.
And I think a lot of Trump supporters had more of a problem with the colour of Obama's skin rather than the colour of his suit

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 21, 2021, 11:23:56 AM »

I see what you're getting at, but do you think there's anything he could have said which would have got the MAGA lot on board?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 21, 2021, 10:17:12 AM »

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9513104/trump-biden-inauguration-comparing-musical-star-power

Chuckle.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 21, 2021, 09:02:11 AM »

Great speech President Biden is giving at the inauguration.

Really? He probably did more to radicalise Trump supporters than Trump managed throughout his entire presidency. He scratched every existing itch, and then added a few for good measure. This was Hillary's "deplorables" meme all over again, and it will likely get weaponised in the same way.

I completely understand the liberals' need to celebrate, but you're gonna be feeling the hangover from this rhetoric in a few years. This isn't a good start for the promised moment of unity and healing.

Really? I mean, he talked a lot about unity. This bit was good:

To all those who did not support us, let me say this. Hear us out as we move forward. Take a measure of me and my heart.
If you still disagree, so be it. That's democracy. That's America. The right to dissent peacefully. And the guardrail of our democracy is perhaps our nation's greatest strength. If you hear me clearly, disagreement must not lead to disunion. And I pledge this to you. I will be a President for all Americans, all Americans. And I promise you I will fight for those who did not support me as for those who did.

What bits did you think would enrage Trump supporters? He talked about the angry mob and democracy prevailing but I'd suggest anyone who is crazy enough that storming the Capitol building was a good idea or to believe Trump's lies about election fraud aren't really going to be placated by anything he said. What is your issue with what he said and is there anything you actually think he could have said which would have been better?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 21, 2021, 08:23:09 AM »

I think he’s had the slide and ball pool taken out too.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 20, 2021, 09:03:30 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 20, 2021, 05:52:15 PM »

This needs some updating.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 20, 2021, 05:20:51 PM »

Trump had a much bigger crowd at his inauguration, there's no way Biden could have won.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 20, 2021, 05:04:49 PM »

Great speech President Biden is giving at the inauguration.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 20, 2021, 04:57:38 PM »

They finished 9 minutes ahead of schedule. I imagine that's for time for the coup to happen and Trump to be reinstalled?

Elite Strike Force incoming.

They seem to be running a bit late 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 20, 2021, 04:52:37 PM »

They finished 9 minutes ahead of schedule. I imagine that's for time for the coup to happen and Trump to be reinstalled?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 20, 2021, 04:31:14 PM »

45 minutes left in the Trump presidency! Can you tell I'm excited? 

Don't be too sure of that...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 20, 2021, 01:06:25 PM »

Good* news for the MAGA brigade!

https://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2021/01/inauguration-cancelled-trump-remains-in-office-abc-nbc-cbs-fox-cnn-msnbc-to-loose-licenses-3223234.html

*By "good" I mean "fake" of course.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 20, 2021, 09:31:46 AM »

Off you pop...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: January 19, 2021, 08:14:24 PM »

Love this bloke. He’s a glorified busker in NY. A mate of mine was working out there for work and when I visited he took me to one of his concerts.
He really should be a lot more well known than he is