[markjo]

Trump has had multiple affairs. He’s been adjudicated to be a rapist.

But none of that happened while Trump was in office (as far as we know), so none of it counts.

[juner]

my french buddy, chip, let me know how to handle these things but it isnt really appropriate for the forum.

also page 666. nice.

[Lord Dave]

my french buddy, chip, let me know how to handle these things but it isnt really appropriate for the forum.

also page 666. nice.

Trump is now satanic.
Fact

[Tom Bishop]

The jury actually ruled that he didn't rape anyone.

Is someone who has an affair logically more or less likely to cut taxes? To pursue foreign intervention? To support gay marriage? It doesn't really make sense.

Remember who you’re talking to.
I’ve literally no idea what Action is talking about. Clinton had an affair with an intern and therefore he’s left wing seems to be the implication.

It’s a “if she floats then she’s made of wood and therefore a witch” level of logic.

Trump has had multiple affairs. He’s been adjudicated to be a rapist. So what does that make him? Is that more or less left wing than Clinton? Just utter nonsense

Please stop lying. The jury ruled that he didn't rape E. Jean Caroll, and the leftists here were in shambles over it.

[AATW]

Please stop lying. The jury ruled that he didn't rape E. Jean Caroll, and the leftists here were in shambles over it.

Aww, bless. You don’t understand the difference between adjudicated and convicted, do you? Trump is a convicted felon and an adjudicated rapist.

If a jury says someone is not guilty that doesn’t actually mean they’re saying the person didn’t do it. It just means they don’t believe the evidence is good enough to establish beyond reasonable doubt that they did. For good reason there is a high bar for conviction, and rape cases have a notoriously low level of conviction.

But the judge clearly believed Trump did it

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

That’s the trade off with the high bar for conviction. You don’t want innocent people being locked up but you do end up with a lot of people, like Trump, who are most likely rapists walking free.

[honk]

No, he's talking about the fact that Trump was found liable for sexual abuse rather than rape. We spent several pages discussing this back when the news first broke. According to Tom, the fact that the jury chose not to find Trump liable for rape is a clear repudiation of Carroll's entire story and proof that Trump is entirely innocent; however, the fact that the same jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation when he denied the whole thing even happened means nothing at all.

[Action80]

It's a matter of politics, certainly, but not of policy.

Yes, of course.

There are no government policies regarding sexual conduct in the workplace.

[Lord Dave]

It's a matter of politics, certainly, but not of policy.

Yes, of course.

There are no government policies regarding sexual conduct in the workplace.

Between two conscenting adults?  Sometimes but that exists in every business as well so I'm not sure I'd call it a government policy if private sectors do it as well.

[honk]

It's a matter of politics, certainly, but not of policy.

Yes, of course.

There are no government policies regarding sexual conduct in the workplace.

Look, you're just being obstinate at this point. You know what I mean. Clinton's affairs didn't make him any less of a centrist.

[AATW]

No, he's talking about the fact that Trump was found liable for sexual abuse rather than rape. We spent several pages discussing this back when the news first broke. According to Tom, the fact that the jury chose not to find Trump liable for rape is a clear repudiation of Carroll's entire story and proof that Trump is entirely innocent; however, the fact that the same jury found Trump liable for sexusl abuse and defamation when he denied the whole thing even happened means nothing at all.

Ah yes. Schrödinger's Jury. Beyond reproach when they find Trump not guilty, irrelevant when they find him guilty.
Cult members gotta cult member I guess.

[Action80]

The government is the sole reason why there are policies governing sexual activity within the workplace.

Of course Sadaam is being obstinate.

Clintons are "centrist."

What a fucking joke of a take.

[AATW]

Clintons are "centrist."

What a fucking joke of a take.

Whether they are or not, the weird thing is you seem to be evidencing your position that they aren't by the fact Clinton had an affair with an intern.
"He cant be centrist! He got a blow job in the oval office!".

What the hell are you talking about? How are those two things linked?
Try "He can't be a centrist, he did <insert non-centrist policy he implemented here>"

[Lord Dave]

Clintons are "centrist."

What a fucking joke of a take.

Whether they are or not, the weird thing is you seem to be evidencing your position that they aren't by the fact Clinton had an affair with an intern.
"He cant be centrist! He got a blow job in the oval office!".

What the hell are you talking about? How are those two things linked?
Try "He can't be a centrist, he did <insert non-centrist policy he implemented here>"

No no he's right.  Only right wing folk have affairs.  Left are faithful.

[AATW]

I wonder what they’re doing to prepare.
Giving all the local young women rape alarms and pepper spray?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm20xvgmd8yo

[Action80]

Clintons are "centrist."

What a fucking joke of a take.

Whether they are or not, the weird thing is you seem to be evidencing your position that they aren't by the fact Clinton had an affair with an intern.
"He cant be centrist! He got a blow job in the oval office!".

What the hell are you talking about? How are those two things linked?
Try "He can't be a centrist, he did <insert non-centrist policy he implemented here>"

Your lack of knowledge concerning the actions of the Clinton administration is not helping at all.

Plenty of steps taken that were certainly not centrist.

But then again, the so-called leftists here, like you, are actually totalitarians.

[AATW]

Plenty of steps taken that were certainly not centrist.

Well, maybe. So give examples of those then.
Banging an intern isn’t one of them.

[juner]

Giving all the local young women rape alarms and pepper spray?

i think they needed that long before trump swings by (we can jump down that little rabbit hole as well since it turns out there are simply just a lot of shitty people in the world).

[Tom Bishop]

It is rather odd that AATW is worried about Trump but has never made mention of the increasing reports of rape and sexual assaults in his country as result of immigration, instead claiming that migrants have done good for his country.

[AATW]

It is rather odd that AATW is worried about Trump but has never made mention of the increasing reports of rape and sexual assaults in his country as result of immigration, instead claiming that migrants have done good for his country.

I wouldn't want any of those rapists or sexual assaulters to be president or prime minister either.
I would like leaders with morals and integrity, I guess I'm a little old fashioned that way.