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« Reply #13260 on: July 01, 2025, 06:00:49 PM »
Quote from: markjo on July 01, 2025, 05:16:36 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whoever bought a copy of The Art Of The Deal should demand a refund?
He didn’t even write it.
Fairly likely he’s never read it.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
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« Reply #13261 on: July 01, 2025, 08:52:35 PM »
Trump has never been a good businessman. He just played one on TV. It really can't be overstated how integral The Apprentice and its false portrayal of Trump as this universally-respected titan of commerce and icon of success was to the rehabilitation of Trump's public image. In the eighties and nineties, everyone knew that Trump was a joke. And nothing changed about him - they just made a TV show saying no, Trump is actually awesome, and inexplicably, tens of millions of Americans believed them.
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« Reply #13262 on: July 02, 2025, 04:13:43 AM »
It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.
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« Reply #13263 on: July 02, 2025, 06:15:45 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 02, 2025, 04:13:43 AM
It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.
His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.
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« Reply #13264 on: July 02, 2025, 08:40:45 AM »
Quote from: Lord Dave on July 02, 2025, 06:15:45 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 02, 2025, 04:13:43 AM
It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.
His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.
Indeed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-final-2016-presidential-debate/fact-check-trumps-claim-that-he-built-his-company-with-1-million-loan/
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« Reply #13265 on: July 02, 2025, 12:22:13 PM »

Quote from: Tom Bishop on July 02, 2025, 04:13:43 AM
It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

You know, Sam Bankman-Fried was a billionaire. Now he's in prison.

Trump inherited a vast fortune and it was all gone before he was 50 years old. By his sixties, he had so many bankruptcies that the American financial industry wouldn't do business with him anymore. He gets his credit from Europe and currently Deutsche Bank holds the 'pink slip' to Mar A Lago. 90% of the businesses with his name on it have failed. Let's not forget Trump’s $TRUMP token, down by 80%.

This patently false idea that Trump is some super savvy businessman is one of the myths that keeps him popular with his Appalachian, sub-normal supporters and the idiots that invest in his scams.

BTW: Billionaires fail all the time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/eight-billionaires-from-around-the-world-who-have-gone-broke/ar-AA1Edo8j







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« Reply #13266 on: July 03, 2025, 08:23:25 PM »
Welp, it passes the house without issue.

So Trump got what he wanted.

I'd day good luck America but honestly?  I hope you reap what you sow and if it's bad (it will be), you all suffer and know it's your own fault.
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« Reply #13267 on: July 03, 2025, 09:59:42 PM »
It doesn't matter. Trump's voters won't learn any lessons from this. They'll just blame Biden or Obama for all the negative consequences
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« Reply #13268 on: July 03, 2025, 10:12:59 PM »
what lessons are there to learn?
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« Reply #13269 on: July 03, 2025, 10:37:40 PM »
Quote from: juner on July 03, 2025, 10:12:59 PM
what lessons are there to learn?

Like: Rural hospitals really really really need medicare money to keep the doors open.
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« Reply #13270 on: July 03, 2025, 11:54:42 PM »
Quote from: juner on July 03, 2025, 10:12:59 PM
what lessons are there to learn?

That the politicians who championed and supported this bill can't be trusted to protect the interests of their constituents and therefore should be voted out would be an obvious one.
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« Reply #13271 on: Today at 05:23:09 AM »
Quote from: Lord Dave on July 03, 2025, 08:23:25 PM
Welp, it passes the house without issue.

So Trump got what he wanted.

I'd day good luck America but honestly?  I hope you reap what you sow and if it's bad (it will be), you all suffer and know it's your own fault.
It’ll be fine. It only affects the poor and the vulnerable and fuck those guys, amirite?
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« Reply #13272 on: Today at 03:35:27 PM »
Quote from: honk on July 03, 2025, 11:54:42 PM
Quote from: juner on July 03, 2025, 10:12:59 PM
what lessons are there to learn?

That the politicians who championed and supported this bill can't be trusted to protect the interests of their constituents and therefore should be voted out would be an obvious one.

my goodness, you have solved politics. get the nyt and time to post huge stories about this...
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« Reply #13273 on: Today at 10:32:53 PM »
...you're the one who apparently needed to have it explained to you. ::)
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