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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 09, 2021, 04:05:23 PM »
I would suggest you look very closely at the data that this propaganda blogger has cited. It is the most saddest, most desperate cherries picked by a sad, desperate cherry picker.

It is a level of spin that Putin would be proud of.
Who needs to look at the details when you can cherry pick your source and bold the words which you think make your case?
Another excellent, reliable source from Tom.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/life-site-news/

I note that none of these "big wins" relate to dead people voting, people out of state voting, Dominion machines "flipping" votes etc, etc.
Almost like there's no evidence for these things which will stand up to any scrutiny...

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How does FE explain star trails?
« on: February 08, 2021, 09:19:11 AM »
It doesn't say anything about being accurate for ten hours. Find authoritative third party evidence which says that long-term tracking of the stars with an EQ mount has occured. You have provided nothing at all, except for your insistence that it is possible.
Why are you continuing to argue that the stars don't go in circles when your Wiki, which you wrote, says they do?
Do you just argue with anything anyone says for the sake of it whether it agrees with arguments you've previously made or not? ???

Just Googling things and bolding the parts which you think backs up your view - even if other non-bolded parts completely contradict it - is not an honest way of arguing. And the fact that the initial article you found wasn't even talking about the right kind of mount shows you're not arguing in good faith.

Are you arguing just for the sake of it or do you think the notion that the stars don't move in circles (again, your Wiki says they do) in some ways helps FE? How does it?

Your continued inability to address other issues like the angular size and magnitude of stars being constant despite them being in your model at significantly different distances throughout the night sky is telling.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How does FE explain star trails?
« on: February 06, 2021, 10:37:17 PM »
It was demonstrated that it is possible to get two centers of rotation, so your assessment on what is possible is incorrect.
If the light passes through a solid glass hemisphere. Not even close to analogous to our atmosphere.
And completely contradicts the P-brane video on your Wiki which is on the same page as the "glass dome" video.
You have two videos on the same Wiki page which offer alternative and contradictory explanations for the same observation.
The first just doesn't work. The second is using a solid glass dome which isn't optically anything like our atmosphere.
This is an admission that you can't explain it and are just inventing ad-hoc - indeed contradictory - mechanisms to explain the observation.
An observation which is expected - indeed predicted - by a globe earth.
Occam's razor would suggest that is the simpler, and therefore more likely to be correct, explanation.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 05, 2021, 01:13:46 PM »
You can't tell me that there is no evidence here.
I didn't tell you that.
I told you, and keep telling you, that not all evidence is created equal.
Someone making a claim is evidence, sure. But they had 60 court cases to present some evidence of fraud and failed to present anything which was credible. Which is why Joe Biden is in the White House right now.
That website, which I've seen before, is basically a box set of all the crazy stuff you've been coming out with for the last few months and kept telling us would flip the election any day now.
We told you that wouldn't happen.
It didn't happen.
Soz.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How does FE explain star trails?
« on: February 05, 2021, 12:57:10 PM »
The stars being very far away while the Earth rotates explains and predicts this motion exactly.
Ah yes. That's a point Tom failed to address. If the stars are small and close then the angular size and luminosity would vary greatly through the night as the distance varies greatly.
That is not what is observed.

Tom, your model claims that the stars are rotating in a disc above us. If they're moving anti-clockwise when you're looking from below then there is no possible way to see them rotating in the opposite direction from below no matter where you're looking at them from. If you look at them from above then yes, you'll see them rotating in the opposite direction but that isn't analogous to looking North and South from below the disc of stars.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How does FE explain star trails?
« on: February 05, 2021, 12:18:39 PM »
If you want to suggest that something is evidence I would suggest not citing someone branded to be a compulsive liar. You can't be a compulsive liar and expect that your evidence is trusted, regardless of subject.
...says the man who hangs on Trump's every word, someone who told more demonstrable lies than any other President in history
But in any case I have seen other star trail photos, I have seen other time lapses. JSS's matches what I'd expect to see. And you know what, your philosophy is apparently to base your views on empirical observations so rather than trying to defame JSS how about you make your own observations if you doubt his results.

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It's fairly easy to see that the stars would seem to rotate clockwise when looking North and counter-clockwise when looking South in a FE model

Incorrect. Because there only one centre of rotation which is the Northern hub.



Someone from point A - the North Pole would look up and see the stars going round in a circle above them - which matches observations, so far so good.
Someone at point B, roughly the equator, would see stars going in arcs but all in the same direction. You wouldn't get the arcs going in the shape showed in the photo above.
Someone at point C in, say, Australia, would also see arcs but with a wider radius. There is no other centre of rotation they would see the stars going around.

In the South if you're looking North you would see stars going from East to West and if you're looking South you'd see them going West to East. But they wouldn't be rotating around a Southern point in your model.

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There are also situations in which two celestial poles manifest. P-Brane's explanation is one of them, or it is found that when light comes in though a magnifying dome, it creates an opposite point of rotation.
Alternatively, there could be two celestial systems - https://wiki.tfes.org/Bi-Polar_Model

So you're having to make up ad-hoc, unexplained mechanisms to make the observations fit your model?
Not very Occam's Razor, is it?
There is a model which explains all this very neatly of course...

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: How does FE explain star trails?
« on: February 05, 2021, 10:16:18 AM »
Appeal to Authority Fallacy is only really a fallacy if the person is unqualified. I am fairly sure that they are qualified enough to determine whether or not you have lied to them.
I honestly don't understand what you're arguing here.
Your Wiki, which you apparently wrote, says the stars go in circles. You're now saying they don't.
Are you just arguing with anyone who says anything now even if it's something you previously claimed? ???

JSS has clearly demonstrated they do go in circles and your only counter argument is "pants on fire!". And while Pete and JSS have crossed swords, Pete has actively shown interest in JSS's astrophotography so there's no hint Pete things JSS is lying about this.

The fundamental problem you have is that in your model stars would actually only go in circles at the North Pole. You'd be at the centre of rotation looking up. From anywhere else the centre of rotation would be offset and because in your model the stars are relatively close you'd get an ellipse. The shape would vary by Latitude. That isn't what's observed.

Then we get to the problem of angular size where the stars are at significantly different distances through the night so would change angular size and luminosity. That isn't what's observed.

Then you have the issue of the star trails in different locations. At the equator they look like this.



This is what you'd expect on a spinning ball, not what you'd expect if we're living on a plane with a disc of stars rotating above us.

Then you get into the Southern hemisphere issues where the axis of rotation is a southern point and the rotation is in the opposite direction. I see there's some half-baked explanation for that on the Wiki, a video by the aptly named P-Brane. But the explanation doesn't work. If you're looking up at a rotating disc and then look down at the same rotating disc then you will observe a different direction of rotation. That explanation doesn't work with a rotating disc which remains above you no matter your location.

TL;DR, your model of the stars and their movements doesn't match observable reality.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 05, 2021, 07:39:18 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55943998

Chuckle.

This made me laugh as did his characteristic sulky response.

What a spectacular fall from grace.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: February 04, 2021, 10:26:28 PM »
The response was obvious. Shield the weak. Allow them to hide away if they choose to do so ... let everyone else get on with their lives.
Basically right.
Although we live in a complicated interconnected society where that's a bit easier said than done.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: February 04, 2021, 10:19:24 PM »
We didn't lock down for ebola. We didn't lock down for AIDS.
You don't catch those things if someone coughs on you.
If you had to bum someone to catch Corona there probably wouldn't have been lockdowns (apart from in your mum's house, lolz).
Seriously though, I do think lockdowns were the wrong response because the mortality rate is so low (it's about 1% all told, and if you're under 50 it's about 0%).
But I do think it's a situation which deserved a response, even if I think that the response was all wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 05:35:21 PM »
If you want to prove that Biden is the legitimate president then you need to provide positive evidence supporting his win
No. You need to provide proof that he isn't. You are the one alleging fraud.
Multiple audits and recounts have shown that to be false.
60 court cases were brought and not one found any evidence which stood up to scrutiny.
And you have repeatedly dodged the question about why the Democrats would "steal" the Presidential election but actually lose ground in the Senate one which were on the same ballots.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: February 04, 2021, 05:13:43 PM »
They'll change the cause like they change their underwear. What always remains the same is that its them trying to get attention.
But being a low rent Katie Hopkins posting awful stuff to get attention is OK, is that right?
Saying that the emperor is not wearing any clothes is not 'awful stuff'.


It should also be mentioned that despite the advice being to stay at home, self isolate and generally behave yourself if you are old and weak, Captain Tom ignored all that advice and took a holiday to Barbados where he promptly caught coronavirus from a black man and then died ... ironically in the hands of the very NHS that raised money for. Karma is on form this week.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 05:06:10 PM »
Trump was the top law enforcement official of the executive branch (which includes the Justice Department) during the election,

"They are saying what a wonderful job the Trump administration did in making 2020 the most secure election ever. Actually this is true"
- Donald J. Trump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: February 04, 2021, 04:54:48 PM »
They'll change the cause like they change their underwear. What always remains the same is that its them trying to get attention.
But being a low rent Katie Hopkins posting awful stuff to get attention is OK, is that right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 04:24:33 PM »
Evidence for fraud has been provided in spades.
"Not all evidence is created equal" - AATW.

None of the "evidence" provided has stood up to the flimsiest scrutiny. That's why Biden is sitting in the Oval office. Soz.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 04:13:40 PM »
Being in the oval office doesn't prove that he was legitimately elected
But it's up to you to prove that he wasn't.

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If you don't know, then you are admitting to baselessly repeating your claim that the court cases were dismissed on merit.

I've shown you a video of a judge dismissing the evidence as a steaming pile of garbage.
You have been shown transcripts of other judges doing the same.
So yes, some of the cases were dismissed because the legal team were so incompetent they couldn't even file court cases correctly.
But you have claimed that the judges wouldn't even look at the evidence. That has been shown quite clearly to be a lie.

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Incorrect.

If your counter argument is merely "nuh-uh" then I'll just take that as you conceding the point.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 03:42:23 PM »
The question was whether there was supporting statistical evidence that Joe Biden got more votes
Yes there is. They counted them all. I'd suggest the number of votes is a pretty significant statistic in an election.
Biden got more than Trump. By a lot.
It's not me saying it, it's election officials throughout the US, many of whom are Republicans.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: February 04, 2021, 03:40:46 PM »
Already discussed at length and shown to be false. You are unable to show that the bulk of the cases were dismissed on merit
I don't know about the bulk of them. Some of them I agree were dismissed because the people filing cases for Trump were so incompetent they couldn't even file cases which made sense. But at the ones where they managed to get that right when evidence was presented the judges laughed it out of court. I have shown you video of that happening. You have been shown transcripts of that happening.

Your argument is that a person accused of murder needs to prove they didn't do it. That isn't how any of this works.
Trump is alleging fraud. Many people who hang on his every word like he's some cult leader believe him for some reason.
They had 60 cases to try and show some evidence which would stand up in court and failed.
Every recount reaffirmed the original result.
Every audit reaffirmed the original result.
Every State certified their results.
The Electoral College voted Biden in.
He is the President.

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You have no positive evidence to present, as you continue to argue from a desperate position.

Joe Biden is sitting in the Oval Office, yours is the desperate case. :)

I'm sorry you follow a loser. The only person to lose the popular vote twice and be impeached twice.
But continuing to have a tantrum about it doesn't change the reality of who your President is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 04, 2021, 03:04:02 PM »
I'm quite excited about the idea that his defence sounds like it's going to be "no, it wasn't insurrection, it was totally justified because the election was stolen from me". That'll go down like a fart in a space suit.

But I suspect he could turn up, shout "WE WERE TRYING TO MURDER YOU ALL AND I'D DO IT AGAIN, DAMMIT!" and the chicken shit Republicans would still acquit him.

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