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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: June 30, 2022, 10:33:47 PM »
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 30, 2022, 09:31:39 AM »That seems pretty unlikely.For now it might seem unlikely, but also seems pretty fucking dangerous to assume it will stay that way given the political climate here in the states and how SCOTUS has their eyes on rolling back other rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriages. We have extremists here and the conservatives are not afraid to pander to them.
I have to say when I saw the recent SCOTUS decision I didn't know about the trigger laws.
I don't know if you watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver but he did a whole piece on this and mentioned those. I hadn't realised that this ruling would have such an immediate and devastating effect. Things are getting dangerously regressive in the US.
The two extreme positions which really annoy me though are the one from the Republicans which implies they think pro-choice people are just itching to rip full term babies from their mother's womb and strangle them while we all watch and laugh. And the "my body, my choice" argument which implies that it is entirely the mother's prerogative what to do and no consideration should be given to the fetus. In real life no-one actually believes a 12 week old fetus is equivalent to a baby, but after 12 weeks almost all pregnancies will progress to term, I don't think that is completely irrelevant in the discussion. TL;DR This is a complex issue which too many people pretend is a simple black and white one on both sides.
And as much of a shit show as things are over here, it does seem like things are even worse in the US. So...well done, I guess?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 28, 2022, 07:52:44 PM »Hell yeah, can't wait for ectopic pregnancies to be a death sentence in the USofA.That seems pretty unlikely.
The trouble with this debate is that both sides can't help themselves taking it to extremes.
If you're pro-life then the other side claim you're intent on enslaving and killing women.
If you're pro-choice then the other side claim you enjoy murdering babies for the lolz.
There's a lot of complexity and nuance here which too many people on both sides don't acknowledge.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question
« on: June 27, 2022, 02:58:09 PM »I have mentioned Jodrell Bank in the UK who were monitoring both Apollo 11 and USSR craft.From what I've been told and studied intensively, a sane person can only draw one conclusion, we were spoon fed deceptive analysis of events that could not and did not happen. Links and videos are abundant internet wide.
There are numerous third-party confirmations of the lunar landings. Do you have any convincing rebuttal to them? They're listed on Wikipedia;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
And the Australians who were relaying messages from the moon. Never seen much of a sensible response.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 27, 2022, 10:33:01 AM »It is not a direct democracy where the majority can do anything they please. Representatives vote on laws and in elections, not the people directly.And how's that working out for you?
I don't think any countries have a direct democracy. We have representative democracy here but we have a particularly poor version of it where we are always governed by a government which the minority of people voted for. I think representative democracy is the least bad way of making laws but our version of it needs a lot of improvement.
I wouldn't (edited - I originally put would, incorrectly) advocate direct democracy, partly because people are by and large idiots but also because you can't ask "the people" about every piddling thing. But even when we do have occasional referendums on bigger issues - I think the majority got it wrong on Brexit but I don't feel I've been discriminated against. The majority got what they wanted for good or ill.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 27, 2022, 08:20:43 AM »Literally quoted the definition above:To expand on my reply to Tom. I'm a Remainer, I didn't want to Brexit. But the majority voted that way and while I think it was an idiotic decision I haven't been "discriminated against" because Brexit happen. That's democracy, not discrimination.
You would be mistaken then. Democracy is clearly a form of discrimination against the minority. You were just conditioned to accept it.
Discrimination can mean "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."
But the definition which most people understand is "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, sex, or disability."
I've not been discriminated against because we have left the EU. We had a vote, my side lost. I'm still waiting to see what the other side won, but regardless I haven't been discriminated against
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Space image Magnification through Atmospheric Lensing
« on: June 27, 2022, 07:35:36 AM »I see Polaris every night out my window the same spot no matter the time,As you would expect in the globe earth model.
What’s your point, caller?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 27, 2022, 07:25:47 AM »But that's the business owner's problem. If they only want to serve a certain demographic - and therefore exclude certain others - then isn't that literally their business? That's the argument. If they go out of business as a result then more fool them. But, overall, I don't think allowing segregation is a positive thing.Because it's bad for business to exclude a lot of potential customers for irrelevant reasons.So you think it's ok to deny someone a service or product or job based upon their gender, color, or sexual orientation?Why not?
EDIT: And I think there's a difference between a baker refusing to serve a couple because they're gay, and refusing to serve a couple because they're asking for a pro gay marriage to be printed on a cake, if the business owner doesn't believe that. Tell you what, if someone had ordered an anti-gay marriage cake and the baker had refused then they'd have been hailed as heroes.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 26, 2022, 08:17:03 PM »You should be free to associate and do business with the reciprocated consent of others, whenever you want, wherever you want.OK. So if I'm racist and I decide I want to open a restaurant and only serve whites then I should be able to.
Pretty simple.
And if that means I go out of business because white people boycott in solidarity then that's my problem.
I mean, I can kinda see an argument there but a fairly likely outcome is my restaurant would attract racists. And my hot take on racism is that it is, by and large, a bad thing. So I'm not sure it's something one should encourage.
I do think there's an argument that someone shouldn't be compelled to do things against their principles. So the infamous case of the baker taken to court for refusing to make a cake supporting gay marriage. I'm on the baker's side there. They weren't refusing to serve the couple because they were gay, they were refusing to print a message which went against their principles.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 26, 2022, 07:50:22 PM »On the bit I quoted...On what?There is nothing wrong with discrimination.Care to elaborate?
Discrimination can mean "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."
But the definition which most people understand is "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, sex, or disability."
How is there "nothing wrong" with that?
To expand on my reply to Tom. I'm a Remainer, I didn't want to Brexit. But the majority voted that way and while I think it was an idiotic decision I haven't been "discriminated against" because Brexit happen. That's democracy, not discrimination.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 26, 2022, 06:36:00 PM »Every stance, law, political position, or opinion, is discriminating against someone who may feel differently about it.I’m not really sure that’s what discrimination means.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP
« on: June 26, 2022, 08:30:11 AM »There is nothing wrong with discrimination.Care to elaborate?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 24, 2022, 05:46:23 PM »
It’s good to see how much Americans care about their children.
Well…until they are born, go to school and get mown down in a mass shooting, or grow up and turn out gay or trans.
Well…until they are born, go to school and get mown down in a mass shooting, or grow up and turn out gay or trans.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: June 24, 2022, 02:46:19 PM »Yep.They already were #Rushy
A bunch of women just became murderers.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson
« on: June 24, 2022, 02:02:06 PM »A purely vertical line has infinite slope.Incorrect. It's undefined.
https://tutorme.com/blog/post/what-is-the-slope-of-a-vertical-line/
Because you can't divide by 0.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: June 24, 2022, 12:09:54 PM »
Holy NRA, Batman!
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 24, 2022, 09:26:08 AM »The official position is that it is impossible to know.Yeah. Just like it's impossible to know the long term effects of Covid. It is, by definition, impossible to know the long term effects of a new thing. Because of how time works.
But I note you accidentally forgot to highlight a different part of the paragraph you quoted:
You're acting like it's a complete roll of the dice, when the reality is every activity in life involves risk.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson
« on: June 24, 2022, 08:16:47 AM »There is a point in time when things are no longer able to be measured.No there isn't. There isn't a point.
It is then you label that point as infinite.
Numbers don't just run out. It doesn't go 1 - 2 - 3 .... 999,999 - 1,000,000 ... oh we've run out of numbers...infinity!
Infinity is a concept. Infinity - 1 is still infinity. Infinity divided by 2 is still infinity. There are as many even numbers as there are numbers.
Infinity is counter-intuitive and there is no "point" at which the finite becomes infinite.
Infinite simply means "not finite". Y'know, like incompetent or incapable...
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson
« on: June 23, 2022, 09:48:34 PM »Adjacent most certainly does not mean "opposites."Correct.
It means next to each other.
Adjacent means “next to each other”.
But finite and infinite are not next to each other, they are opposites. Hence the prefix “in”, which means “not”. See?