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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist
« on: November 05, 2024, 05:34:10 PM »
Considering the honesty of the governments and vast incentive and resources to do this, this claim of possessing nuclear weapons can pretty much be boiled down to 'somebody said something'.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: November 02, 2024, 08:44:17 PM »
I asked you what limits Kamala wants for abortion and you provide a singular defense of the post-birth abortion bill she supported. The article notes that she consistently refuses to deny her support for unlimited late term abortion. She was asked about it specifically in the debate and has been asked about it elsewhere.

In this 2023 interview the interviewer accuses Kamala of wanting unlimited abortion to-birth and asks the question about abortion limits multiple times, and she refuses to answer:

https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/23/no-matter-how-hard-she-tries-kamala-harris-cant-hide-her-history-of-abortion-extremism/

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In a September 2023 sitdown with CBS’ Margaret Brennan, Harris refused to say which abortion limits she supports, instead claiming she merely wants to “restore the protections of Roe [v.] Wade.”

Brennan noted that “[Roe] was about viability, which could be anywhere between 20 to 24 weeks” and pressed Harris to be “specific” about “which week of pregnancy” should serve as the cutoff. Harris, however, continued to obfuscate by using the same cop-outs the White House uses to cover up its desire to codify abortion through all nine months of pregnancy via legislation like the ill-named “Women’s Health Protection Act.”



"As a senator, Harris sponsored, introduced, and voted for multiple bills that stripped protections for unborn babies and pro-lifers. In addition to co-sponsoring the original version of the “Women’s Health Protection Act,” Harris voted against protections for babies born alive after botched abortions."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: November 01, 2024, 04:17:51 AM »
No mainstream politician thinks that all abortions should be allowed with zero rules or regulations that take into account things like the progression of the pregnancy.

Okay, how about your main favorite right now. What limits on abortion does Kamala Harris want? This was a specific question asked to her at the Trump-Kamala debate.

Kamala has clearly shown herself to be an abortion extrimist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: October 31, 2024, 01:31:15 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 25, 2024, 05:58:45 PM »
All of this is just attempting to distract from the Kamala Meltdown


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 23, 2024, 12:11:05 AM »
Trump's McDonalds visit was a brilliant campaign strategy. To the average person the chronic Trump-complainers sound like idiots for complaining about this.

The event produced iconic Americana-reminiscent imagery which has resonated nationally and internationally as advertisements for Trump, McDonalds and America itself.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Is the UK okay?
« on: October 19, 2024, 07:48:29 PM »
It appears that the same judge in the story Rushy mentioned above also sympathizes with degeneracy. What a coincidence that the stereotype proves accurate.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/beltway-confidential/3194025/uk-judge-gives-31-months-prison-hate-speech-0-months-child-pornography/

UK judge gives 31 months prison for hate speech, 0 months for child pornography
October 18, 2024

    "An English judge this week sentenced a woman who posted a hateful message on X to two years and seven months in prison. Lucy Connolly has no previous convictions. The same judge allowed a habitual child pornography offender to walk free from court without any prison time in 2021."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 18, 2024, 12:41:50 AM »
genuine question(s) for trump voters -- why do you want to vote for trump? what is the thing about him that you believe will benefit you and/or the nation? or, if you like: why should i vote for trump, too?

these are not meant to be sarcastic questions at all, and i'm not gonna argue with your answers. just curious.

I like Trump because he is going to use his authority to jail his opponents.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4931778-donald-trump-national-guard-military-enemy-from-within/

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Former President Trump in a Sunday interview suggested using the National Guard or the military on Election Day to combat what he described as potential chaos from “the enemy from within” — a group Trump said includes “radical left lunatics.”

In the interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” Trump dismissed President Biden’s concerns that Election Day wouldn’t be peaceful and said, when asked, that he thinks “the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come in and destroyed our country.”

“I think the bigger problem are the people from within,” Trump said. “We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics.”

“And I think it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen,” he added.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-democrats-enemies-within-rcna175628

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'So evil' and 'dangerous': Trump doubles down on calling Democrats 'enemies from within' ... Trump doubled down on those comments during his Tuesday night town hall, also calling Democrats “evil” and “dangerous.”

“They’re Marxists and communists and fascists, and they’re sick,” Trump added. “We have China, we have Russia, we have all these countries. If you have a smart president, they can all be handled. The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they’re so sick and they’re so evil,” Trump said.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 16, 2024, 12:41:33 PM »
Daytime Fox has always been left-wing. Fox has an equal number of advocates on the left and right, which is what they interpret as being "fair and balanced".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« on: October 15, 2024, 11:51:37 PM »
Joe down the street is not going to say goodbye to his wife and kids and leave home so he can fight in the Battle of Washington or whatever. Very few people would make that kind of sacrifice for the sake of their ideals.

Wrong. You have spent years posting that thousands of people decided to mutiny against the United States with violence. Simply look into the congressional investigation on this:

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-167/issue-25/senate-section/article/S615-4

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President Trump had truly made them believe that their election had
been stolen and that it was their patriotic duty to fight to steal it
back--``patriotic,'' a term he gave those who use violence for him--and
they were willing to say goodbye to their children for this fight.

  These supporters didn't just rely on entering the Capitol with guns
haphazardly. They had maps of this building. They talked through which
tunnels to use and how to get to the Senate Chamber. Some posted
specific floor plan layouts of the Capitol alongside hopes of
overwhelming law enforcement to ``find the tunnels; arrest the worst
traitors.''
...
The day before the rioters stormed the Congress, an FBI office in
Virginia also issued an explicit warning that extremists were preparing
to travel to Washington to commit violence and ``war,'' according to
internal reports.

  The FBI report cited to an online post where the user declared that
Trump supporters should go to Washington and get violent. The supporter
said:

       Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there
     ready for war. We get our President or we die.

  These threat warnings were not just hypothetical. Actual arrests
occurred in the days leading to the attack.
...
 On January 4, 2 days before the rally, one extremely well-publicized
arrest was of a Proud Boy leader who destroyed a church's Black Lives
Matter banner a month earlier during the December 12, second Million
MAGA March. The report emphasized that when he was arrested, he was
carrying high-capacity firearms magazines, which he claimed were meant
to be supplied to another rally attendee for January 6.

By the night before the January 6 attack, DC police had already made
six arrests in connection with the planned protests on charges of
carrying weapons, ammunitions, assault, assaulting police.
...
And leading up to the event, there were hundreds--hundreds--of posts
online showing that his supporters took this as a call to arms to
attack the Capitol. There were detailed posts of the plan to attack
online. Law enforcement warned that these posts were real threats and
even made arrests days leading up to the attack.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: October 15, 2024, 02:23:22 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 15, 2024, 12:50:46 AM »
There is a pretty simple explanation for why Kamala's popularity dropped after her recent media tour.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 14, 2024, 11:25:23 AM »
It is correct that the people polled tend to vote differently than the people who vote. However, Trump is beating those prior trends.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/12/polls-trump-vs-harris-biden-clinton/75532448007/




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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« on: October 13, 2024, 02:34:56 PM »
I didn't say that people weren't willing to participate in insurrections or political violence. I'm specifically talking about the idea that gun owners will rise up against the government if it grows too oppressive and overthrow it via revolution.

Rising up against a government and overthrowing it via revolution is called an insurrection.  ::)

The people marching through the Capitol on Jan 6th and calling to hang the politicians risked their freedom for doing what they did. Many of them did go to jail because of it, and would have faced a much harsher punishment if they had actually found a politician to hang. The claim that people are too scared to risk anything anymore is clearly false.

The attackers swarmed the Capitol through sheer numbers (and also through complicit Democratic authorities, according to your contradictory take on it), not through force of arms. Only one person was shot, and it was by the police.

The only reason more guns were not there at the event is because the crowd went through the Trump rally security, which involves going through high-tech weapon scanners for entrance. However, many guns were found in cars outside of the event.

There is video of people breaking down the windows of the Capitol building with bats. The characterization that this isn't violent enough is laughable. People were willing to insurrect even without the benefit of guns, which speaks more to their bravery and willingness to insurrect when they believe that the other side has crossed the line.

I never even mentioned Trump, but now that you mention it, if Trump or any other politician called for a civil war, very few people inside or outside of the military would join him. That's the power of de jure authority.

You will recall that at least 13 red states, including Texas, were telling the SCOTUS that the results of the election should not have been accepted with the concerning discrepancies.

In the 2020 election there was growing concern over a civil war. It would have been divided between the red states versus the blue states. In a civil war the military bases in those areas would go to the parent states, just as what happened during the first civil war. In a civil war the military in Texas will obviously be defending Texas regardless of what federal orders they receive.

Nice try, but this effort at rewriting history to portray Trump as magnanimous and merciful isn't going to work. Trump didn't tell anyone to stop until hours after the Capitol had been breached and the members of Congress had all long since been evacuated. At that point, the attackers - most of whom were already gone - were just hanging around in the empty building. There was nothing that any of them could have done at that time, regardless of what Trump did or didn't say to them.

Incorrect. Look any timeline:

https://www.jan-6.com/january-6-timeline

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January 6th: Capitol Tunnel + Upper W. Terrace

3:30pm
Fighting resumes at the tunnel.
On the Upper W. Terrace, a large group of officers push rioters back from NW Courtyard.
Crow continues surging at tunnel until 4:17pm.

4:17pm
Police threaten lethal force.
 Trump tweets, “This was a fraudulent election, but..we have to have peace. So go home. We love you; you’re very special...But go home..

4:26pm
Rioters realize Roseanne Boyland is trampled after the one rioter trips over her body while leaving the tunnel.

4:27pm
The mob drags out Officer Miller & beats him with fists and weapons.

Ten minutes after Trump made that announcement the crowd was beating policemen with fists and weapons. The situation clearly wasn't over.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« on: October 12, 2024, 07:21:52 PM »
So they were invited in.
It was a Democrat stunt.
And it was also an insurrection which would have totally overthrown the government had Trump not called it off.
Logical consistency is overrated to be fair.

If someone goes into your capitol and hangs your politicians, they have overthrown the government.

The people were in the building and were chanting to hang the politicians, and it is irrelevant that the police allowed them in. Are you seriously arguing that if they had gotten to democrat senator Chuck Schumer, that they were there to just there to shake his hand and leave?

Honk's idea that people are unwilling to attempt to overthrow the government in modern America is obviously wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« on: October 12, 2024, 05:47:12 PM »
It sounds like the party's over for Kamala.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-kamala-harris-honeymoon-is-coming-to-an-end/

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This is the race Democrats feared. Less than a month before the US election, Donald Trump is regaining the slight edge he held before Democrats convened in Chicago to nominate Kamala Harris. According to the RealClearPolitics polling average in battleground states, Trump trailed Harris from late August until late September. Now, though, he’s back on top at 48.4 to 48.1. His lead may be fractional — and Harris is up two points in the popular vote — but the numbers have Kellyanne Conway feeling good.

Alongside a picture of the RCP numbers, the pollster argued this week that Trump is “in his best polling ever era, even as media outlets are likely undercounting his voters — again”. On CNN, Harry Enten crunched the numbers too. “Let’s say we have a polling miss like we had in 2020. What happens then?” he asked on Tuesday. “Well, then Donald Trump wins the election in a blowout with 312 electoral votes.”

In his Wednesday column, Charles Blow of the New York Times lamented that FiveThirtyEight now gives Harris and Trump “close-to-even chances” of winning. “The campaign doesn’t need a post-joy strategy,” he wrote, “but it definitely needs an in-addition-to-joy strategy.” FiveThirtyEight‘s win probability chart mirrors RCP‘s battleground chart in that as Harris’s DNC bump has waned, Trump’s numbers have gone up, closing the gap significantly in just the last few weeks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« on: October 12, 2024, 04:38:11 PM »
Try being more honest in your life. The whole protest itself was not a democrat stunt. The democrat administration removing the barricades and keeping the front doors open and letting them into the building is the democrat stunt.

Quote all of it:

lol at anyone dumb enough to believe this Democrat stunt

If you tried to force your way into the country's capitol building on a normal weekday with a group of people do you think you could do it without all of you getting totally massacred?

Here are the protestors getting past the barricades. The barricades are pulled open for them and the police casually turn their backs to them and walk with the protestors towards the capitol building:

https://twitter.com/PollEveryday2/status/1346969946992029696

https://youtu.be/2Hpj-CAJB6Y

Here the protestors gain entrance into the building. The vigilant policeman is unarmed, waves a little stick, and just runs away from them, leading them into the interior:

https://twitter.com/IndigoLeo10/status/1346941327720796166

https://youtu.be/vsPIZk6MRyE

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