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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 02, 2024, 01:24:38 PM »

Trump pardoned a load of his mates and cronies...

Call them "cronies," if you like, but the "press visible," ones all related to the RUSSIA, RUSsia, Russia, bullshit news cycle. None of those people deserved any sort of conviction to begin with (it was all made for TV).

That's as may be, but I still believe that a president should not have the power to unilaterally pardon - what Biden has done demonstrates why, it's a flagrant abuse of power. Pardoning is the sort of thing kings used to do, haven't we moved on from that sort of thing?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 02, 2024, 11:40:54 AM »

This seems like a pretty stupid power for a president to have. Trump pardoned a load of his mates and cronies, what Biden has done is probably worse.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: December 02, 2024, 08:32:02 AM »

Biden pardoned Hunter.

Fuck Joe Biden.

Corrupt piece of shit!

Thank goodness we have a man of integrity coming in to take his place.
(But yes, I largely agree)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 28, 2024, 09:53:45 AM »

Could you at least post the "empirical evidence"?

sure thing.

No, silly! He means evidence that confirms what he wants to believe.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 26, 2024, 06:22:54 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-promises-25-tariff-products-mexico-canada-2024-11-25/

the best way to make things cheaper is to make everything more expensive. lol imagine being such an idiot that you actually cast a ballot for this.

Isn't the argument that it makes foreign goods more expensive which increases demand for goods made in the good ole US of A?
Of course it probably means other countries will retaliate with tariffs of their own which will make it harder for the US to export goods.
So...overall... ¯\_(ツ)_/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 25, 2024, 09:00:41 PM »

Hooray! The President can do what the fuck he likes!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gvd7kxxj5o

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: November 25, 2024, 09:19:40 AM »

She still seems like a good pick to me.

What's that you say? Your cult leader did a thing and you think it's good? Amazing!
If she's that good why wasn't she his first choice?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: November 24, 2024, 03:40:48 PM »

Fun fact: on 2 Nov 2023, Russia revoked its CTBT ratification.

The threat is real - and has been for over a year.

Yes, Russia's nuclear bombs are very scary and very real. That's why every time Putin says "if you do x we will nuke you" and then we do x, we have gotten nuked. We just keep getting nuked over and over again. It's horrible. Sometimes I wake up and my front yard has been nuked several times in a row. I hope we all surrender to Putin soon so he stops nuking us.

It's just possible that Putin hasn't nuked us because he knows that we would retaliate.
The only time they've been used in warfare was when the country which used them was the only one who had them.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Nuclear Bombs Do Not Exist

« on: November 18, 2024, 07:31:12 PM »

They must feel like right idiots, suffering all the effects of the bombs which don't exist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4ng2873jro

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 08, 2024, 03:58:42 PM »

Rushy in "providing no evidence for his claims and dismissing all evidence which shows him to be wrong" shock exclusive!

Me: the government is lying
You: here is the government saying they are not lying
Me: they obviously would not tell you they are lying
You: haha no evidence!

 

You're saying the government is lying in a way which:
a) Would be very noticeable in the country and
b) Makes no sense

You said "those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them".
15 million people is close to 5% of the US population. It's close to 1 in 20 people in the country. Are these additional deaths? Presumably people are still dying from other causes. A jump in the number of people dying - that's significantly more people than died in the pandemic - would be obvious and easy to evidence.
Secondly, you understand it wasn't just Democrats who got vaccinated - 58% of Republicans were vaccinated too.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/for-covid-19-vaccinations-party-affiliation-matters-more-than-race-and-ethnicity/
Did none of them die?

Again I call in to question how you arrive at beliefs. It seems to be whatever pops in to your head.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 08, 2024, 02:39:20 PM »

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them.

Which is impressive given that's more than the total number of people who have died in the US since the vaccine was available.

Oh no, you mean to tell me the government that gave millions of people a deadly injection would also lie about the numbers of deaths that have occurred?

Rushy in "providing no evidence for his claims and dismissing all evidence which shows him to be wrong" shock exclusive!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 08, 2024, 02:18:38 PM »

Those missing 15 million Democrat votes aren't people that decided to stay home, they're dead. They took the vaccine and it killed them.

Which is impressive given that's more than the total number of people who have died in the US since the vaccine was available.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 08, 2024, 02:11:10 PM »

This was addressed in many of the cofeve threads.

The supposed "excess deaths," were coming anyway. During the years 1945 - 1962, more people were born than at any prior time in recorded history.

Oh right, so over 16 years there was a rise in births and that led to a one off spike in 2020 did it?
There's a clear rising trend of deaths - as you'd expect in an ageing population. But a clear spike in 2020 when Covid hit.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/195920/number-of-deaths-in-the-united-states-since-1990/
But if you think your "brilliant" hypothesis has any merit then feel free to point me at some actual experts who agree with you.
Tumbleweeds.

Not once during the entirety of the plandemic were you ever offering any sort of alternative, rational approach instead of what was done.

They should have locked down earlier and harder. By the time they did lock down it was too late - because of Trump repeatedly insisting it was under control and would all go away. And they should have done more to protect the vulnerable while giving more freedom to people who were at less risk. There.

Now, stop derailing the thread. The point is Trump was a bloody awful president.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-biden-list
But gas and groceries were cheaper under him so you voted him back in. Silly you!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 08, 2024, 10:16:55 AM »

Then it should be no surprise that she lost.

I'm not surprised she lost. I am a bit surprised at how badly she lost

Hold on there, you believe it was serious. People in general do not.

You may be right, but it doesn't matter what you believe. The data shows it was a serious situation which required a response.


The data above is all deaths so even if you think deaths were being misattributed to Covid, something was causing a lot of extra deaths - and we saw that in the UK too.
I wonder if the issue is that when people think of a pandemic they think of films like 28 Days Later. I agree it wasn't a "holy shit we're all going to die" thing. For most young healthy people it wasn't that big a deal. The issue is in the West we have a lot of old and/or unhealthy people. There don't have to be piles of bodies in the street for it to be a situation which requires a response. My view is that Trump made a hash of it, as did our government.

The real reason for your leftist error, of course, is that you value feelings over rational thought.

I'm not a leftist. I'm fairly centrist. And it's ironic you say I value feelings over rational thought when my opinion is based on data and yours is based on a vague feeling of "well, most people didn't die so what was the fuss about?"

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 07, 2024, 06:44:12 PM »

all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

Wow, that's all you have to do to get voted into presidency?

In the scenario when people think things are going to shit and blame the current government for that it goes a long way.

Kamala also said she would fix things

Yes, but she is part of the current administration which people believe have caused their problems.

With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Well that’s debatable.
I don’t think he handled Covid well - repeatedly denying the seriousness of it and saying it was all under control. I disagree with a lot of his positions on climate change and immigration. But sure, “gas” was cheaper, groceries were cheaper. Those are things which affect people day to day.
My take is the inflation has been caused in part by the hangover from the pandemic and the situation in Ukraine, I don’t think its all been because of the Democrats and I’m not convinced Trump will fix it. But I’d be the first to admit I’m no expert on economics so I guess we’ll see.

I hope he does a good job, no one wins out of it being a complete shit show.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 07, 2024, 04:56:34 PM »

I thought this was interesting. A good explanation in why all the mud slinging from the Democrats was ineffective.
Obviously Trump was doing that too, but the bottom line is people aren't happy with how things are going, they blame the Democrats and will elect anyone who says they'll make things better. I'm not convinced he will, but all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 08:06:23 PM »

The rest are bot votes fed via the machines.

Ah yes, but this is one of your claims and those don't require evidence. I'm catching on now. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 07:00:01 PM »

In 2020 he lost of course

That's a funny way of saying "in 2020 it was easier to print fake ballots and drop them off".

Your opinion is definitely to be taken seriously.

Not that any of this matters. Harris owns all the voting machines. The steal is already in, folks. It's over for Trump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 06:42:20 PM »

The consequences being: MAGA style politics is now socially acceptable and encouraged because it works and will for a decade or two.

Does it work, though? Has it ever worked?

He has won 2 elections but both times it has been more about the alternative being even worse, or perceived as such. Starmer won over here because he wasn’t the Tories. Almost no one was enthused about him, but people just wanted change.

In 2016 it was more of an “anyone but Hillary” vote. In 2020 he lost of course, no matter how hard he pretends he didn’t. This time the economy was the big issue. Which is actually doing quite well but people don’t feel that because of the cost of living stuff. Which is mostly caused by bigger events like the pandemic hangover and Ukraine. But it’s easy for Trump to say “things were a lot cheaper when I was in charge”. Which is true of course.

I think Trump is a bit of a one off, I don’t think anyone could imitate his style even if they wanted to.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« on: November 06, 2024, 06:33:07 PM »

Many on Reddit are beginning to say it doesn't matter and that you should stop crying

That Reddit quote is the sort of hilarious cope you were posting 4 years ago. The difference is Harris is an actual grown up who will make a concession speech, not a man sized toddler who will keep stamping their feet and shouting NOT FAIR! when they lose