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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 21, 2021, 04:46:29 PM »
The fact remains that it has been claimed that a 250km distance was traveled in 5 minutes.

That translates to an average rate of travel of 3000 mph, which is a fact.

Given a starting rate of travel of 0 mph and a final rate of travel of 16,038 mph, kindly make that fit.
It would be a fact if you weren't mixing up your units. But OK, I've had a go.

Minute 1 - rocket accelerates from 0-600 - Average speed = 300km/h, distance travelled = 5km
Minute 2 - rocket accelerates from 600-1200 - Average speed = 900km/h, distance travelled = 15km
Minute 3 - rocket accelerates from 1200-2000- Average speed = 1600km/h, distance travelled = 26.66km
Minute 4 - rocket accelerates from 2000-4000- Average speed = 3000km/h, distance travelled = 50km

I'm going to split the last minute into two 30 second blocks as this is where the acceleration is highest

Minute 5 - first 30 seconds. Rocket accelerates from 4000-8000- Average speed = 6000km/h, distance travelled = 50km (because this is 30 seconds, not 60, so divide by 120)
Minute 5 - second 30 seconds. Rocket accelerates from 8000-16000- Average speed = 12000km/h, distance travelled = 100km

Distance travelled = 246.66km. I'd say that's close enough.

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 21, 2021, 03:15:53 PM »
Consider this; Urbanville and Townsville and are 60 miles apart.  They are served by a train which does the journey in one hour.  How the f*** are you supposed to get off the train in Townsville if it is doing an average of 60 mph?
And what if the train does the first half of the journey at 30mph? How fast does it have to go for the second half in order to travel the whole distance at an average of 60mph?
Intuitively one would thing it's 90mph, when that actual answer is it's impossible. Some of this stuff is counter-intuitive.

Frankly, Lackey, this level of maths is beyond you. And that isn't a slight, it's beyond me too. It's beyond most people. As a rocket rises the thrust remains (fairly) constant but it's burning fuel which means the acceleration is constantly increasing (because F=ma, the F of the thrust remains the same but the m constantly changes as fuel is burnt). Then you have the drag which reduces with altitude as the air gets thinner. And there's a gravitational effect too although that's probably small enough to not have to worry about it. Look at any rocket - it doesn't suddenly zoom into the air, it starts off going pretty slowly, the higher it goes and the lighter it gets the more it accelerates. The rate of acceleration is not constant, that's what makes this so complex.

TL;DR - this stuff is complicated. And it's fine to not understand it, just try not to overestimate your ability to.

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##### Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Warning!
« on: June 18, 2021, 10:48:36 AM »
Snitches get stitches...

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##### Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Warning!
« on: June 18, 2021, 08:59:21 AM »
Fair enough. Ta.

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##### Suggestions & Concerns / Warning!
« on: June 18, 2021, 08:19:46 AM »
In yet another terrible decision and injustice, I have apparently received a warning:

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AllAroundTheWorld,

You have received a warning for breaching rule 1 (no personal attacks). Please try to discuss ideas, rather than the individuals who presented them.

Please abide by the forum rules, otherwise further action will be taken.

You may remind yourself of the forum rules here

Regards,
The Flat Earth Society Forum Team.

Now obviously this is another blunder from the mediocre mods, but point of order. How am I supposed to know what post I've been warned for?
Am I being stupid or is there no way of telling? Usually the post gets moved to AR or a comment is made in the relevant thread but I can't see anything, so...

My actual suggestion - when these PMs are sent could a link to the relevant post be added so the person can see what ridiculous decision has been made they're being warned for.

Ta.

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##### Flat Earth Theory / Re: Question about flat earth model, sunsetband sunrise
« on: June 18, 2021, 07:00:49 AM »
the typical density gradient in our air which causes light to curve convexly towards the ground.
...which would surely make the sun appear higher in the sky, not lower.
I'd like to see a diagram of how you think light bending downwards would cause sunset.

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##### Suggestions & Concerns / Re: What happened to giving full credit for references?
« on: June 15, 2021, 01:01:35 PM »

We are not "acting in concert". And I didn't "clip out" anything. Bob posted a link to an image - .png, image format.
You got a 404. The link was poorly formed in his post, it was trivial to fix it so I posted a corrected link.

That's all. I can't vouch for his image or the source, I just showed you the corrected link as you seemed to be struggling to view it.

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 15, 2021, 12:55:59 PM »
Either way, both SteelyBob and AATW, are guilty of not providing the name of the author of this piece of trash table, something I thought TFES was keen on avoiding. If you cannot provide proper references, both of you should stop posting.
To be clear, I don't know what this link is. It was poorly formed, it was fairly obvious how to correct it but you were apparently too stupid to work it out so I helped you.
The fact you couldn't work out how to correct a simple URL does not fill me with confidence that your maths is correct, but I'm sure you're about to present it any minute now...

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 15, 2021, 11:44:01 AM »
Still waiting on the math disproving 32,000 MPH wrong.
Because you haven't presented your maths so we can look at what you get wrong.
Do that, then we can talk.

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 15, 2021, 10:54:52 AM »
Yes.

Here is the summary:

Tut. The link was bad, but it didn't take too much figuring out. For the hard of thinking though, here:

https://physicsfromplanetearth.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/papertable-1-e1515874894590.png

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 15, 2021, 07:09:15 AM »
The AZ one is the more traditional type of vaccine - I had that one (not be choice particularly, that's just what they gave me)

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 13, 2021, 09:24:38 PM »
Since you are having trouble significantly contradicting the articles
I'm having no trouble at all with that. You are having trouble understanding the arguments, but I don't know what I can do about that.
Remember the 2 days you spent not being able to understand a simple experiment with a laser and a boat, all the while claiming it was me who didn't understand it...then the penny finally dropped, you realised I was right so you just called it fake and ran away.
Or the time you didn't understand crepuscular rays so I made a 3D model which showed exactly what was going on and shows you screenshots from the relevant angles...you ran away from that one too.
But I'm glad you agree you have no particular authority. that is some progress at least.

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 13, 2021, 09:20:04 PM »
Reuters duplicitously did not cite or provide the conversations in whole, so who knows what they really said?

Genuinely incredible that you posted this when selective quoting is your whole thing.
You often do it from articles which literally say the exact opposite of what you claim they say, but with selective quoting you deliberately misrepresent them.
The only question is whether you are being dishonest and hypocritical here or just trolling.

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They probably didn't just say that the vaccine was risk-free in the full conversation. They most likely gave their criticism that he didn't prove enough and agreed with or otherwise submitted to the fact that there is risk to the vaccine, like many other doctors state.

Nothing is zero risk.
Do you drive? Are there are any car safety experts who will claim that is a zero risk activity? If so then they are lying. Of course there's a risk. So why do you do it? Because you believe the speed and convenience of getting where you want in car outweighs the low risk of dying or getting badly injured in a car wreck.

Almost everything in life carries an element of risk, the issue is how high is the risk? With vaccines - as with driving a car - the risk is pretty low. That is not an opinion, it's borne out by the data in both cases. The long term risks of vaccines are known as is the impact of them on diseases like measles.

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 13, 2021, 09:00:53 PM »
The author of that Reuters article isn't a scientist either, and is unqualified to write that article or appropriately decipher the work or what the people interviewed are talking or complaining about

What are the qualifications of the author of the TFES Wiki?
Are they qualified to write those pages or decipher the work of the people it quotes?

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: June 11, 2021, 11:50:56 AM »
Tom, touting your viral immunologist as a Trump card has to be some of the most desperate tactics I’ve seen. You know who the vaccine was designed by, right? Instead of clinging to this sad, fallacious argument perhaps find out what other relevant scientists are saying?
This is Tom's MO.
I think we can all agree that there will be a range of opinions even amongst experts and there will be some outliers who have views which are not shared by the majority of experts in a field. So you can find an "expert" who will back up any viewpoint - especially if you are even more honest and quote part of what they say out of context to make it look like they're saying something other than what they're actually saying.

So this is what Tom does, he just finds the expert with the extreme opinion which backs up what he wants to hear and declares them as his star witness. All the other expert opinions are ignored or disregarded. Very dishonest way of arguing but Tom's gotta Tom I guess.

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##### Flat Earth Community / Re: Are there any FE Discord servers available to new globe-deniers?
« on: June 10, 2021, 03:46:39 PM »
I have found my way out of globalist thought.
Out of interest, how did you come to that conclusion?

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: FE and ICBMs
« on: June 10, 2021, 03:00:17 PM »

The bottom line for all of this thread is this.

The only evidence that exists for ICBM's is some propaganda and gullible believers.

I've been happy to let you go on and on.  Give a man enough rope kind of thing

But Jesus F*&@ing Christ.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2021/02/24/air-force-launches-unarmed-unarmed-minuteman-3-missile-from-vandenberg-afb/

https://breakingdefense.com/2020/02/first-2020-minuteman-iii-test-launches-as-new-start-countdown-begins/

As for Dear Leader go ahead and look foolish as long as you'd like.

Bye now!
Pff. You can prove anything with facts.
So what now, Lackey? CGI? We weren't there so can't know it happened? There's always some excuse...

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##### Science & Alternative Science / NASA and China sitting in a tree...
« on: June 10, 2021, 02:10:43 PM »
...on Mars.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57427797

I thought this was interesting. So I guess now NASA are faking images of other countries' craft I guess to keep the whole "spaceflight is a thing" ruse going?

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##### Science & Alternative Science / Re: The June Eclipse
« on: June 10, 2021, 02:02:41 PM »
I also managed to take a photo of the shadow object from sunny London

Actually quite cloudy London and for a while I thought that had scuppered my attempt, but then it cleared a bit. I don't have a solar filter or anything so that's a reflection in a bucket of water I took into the garden, just took it on my Phone. Quite pleased with it though.

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##### Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trans athletes
« on: June 08, 2021, 12:07:35 PM »
Tbh, I've always thought that people "identifying as"... was complete horseshit, but rooster's link about brain structure was interesting and has made me think twice.

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