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Listen to yourself. If the shoe were on the other foot you would be calling out the questionable nature of the Republican president's son. Don't even lie.

At least be honest and tell us that you don't care, that he's on your side so it's okay, or however you really feel. That's infinitely better than lying to yourself and everyone else by pretending to have morals.

I’m not so stupid as to think that the corruption of Trump’s children should be blamed on him. Stop projecting your weird North Korean mentality on to me. Instead think about how in 6+ years how you have never found any decision Trump has made to be lacking and how that shows a distinct flaw in your critical faculty.

Yeah, I am sure if Trump's son was corruptly receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries while Trump was president, you would jump up and down and insist that Trump being president had nothing to do with it.

"Who cares who the 'big guy' is. If foreign countries want to give a president's son money they have that right!" - Rama Set assuredly

If Trump's son then transitioned his career to artist and was selling artwork for hundreds of thousands of dollars while Trump was president you also would have no problem with it. People just really want to give a new crack addict artist large amounts of money.  ::)

You are just blatantly lying now.

Nancy Pelosi made millions while in Congress and makes better returns on stock trades than Warren Buffet. I don't see lefties calling her corrupt. The criticism for that comes from the right, not the left. The left generally ignores it.

literal lol. it's genuinely adorable that you think this is true.

Here's an economist saying it - https://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=383

https://www.foxbusiness.com/kudlow/kudlow-nancy-pelosi-trading

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I'm extremely worried this evening over a 1% drop in the tech-heavy NASDAQ Index. Why this sudden concern? Because it may do great damage to Nancy Pelosi's almost perfect investment track record.

You may have read that one website has already nominated her as the 2021 Wall Street trader of the year. In fact, reading jacobinmag.com – which I'm told is a left-wing outfit – nonetheless, they have a fabulous story about Ms. Pelosi and her trading acumen.

The Gordon Gekko of the New York Stock Exchange. The oracle of Omaha is dead. Long live the Queen of Stocks.  According to reports, she and her husband Paul Pelosi have traded over $50 million in assets over the past year with annualized returns at 69% as of October, according to an estimate from the Nancy Pelosi portfolio tracker.

That's higher than Buffett, George Soros, Cathy Wood, and other star investors. Apparently, the Pelosi portfolio beat the S&P 500 by 4.9 percent in 2019 and a big 14.3 percent gain in 2020, according to an outfit called FinePrint. Ms. Pelosi is becoming a cult figure among stock investors.

I'll wait for you to find an economist who says otherwise.

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Thanks for demonstrating my point. Now you are suggesting that Hunter was doing corrupt things with foreign countries, receiving large sums of money, and that it had nothing to do with his father who was running policy on those countries as VP at the time. Completely disingenuous.

So you literally want Biden to be guilty because of his son’s actions. Fascinating.

Listen to yourself. If the shoe were on the other foot you would be calling out the questionable nature of the Republican president's son. Don't even lie.

At least be honest and tell us that you don't care, that he's on your side so it's okay, or however you really feel. That's infinitely better than lying to yourself and everyone else by pretending to have morals.

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Thanks for demonstrating my point. Now you are suggesting that Hunter was doing corrupt things with foreign countries, receiving large sums of money, and that it had nothing to do with his father who was running policy on those countries as VP at the time. Completely disingenuous.

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Hilariously dumb take from you considering the lefties here have each criticized Biden in his first year more than you criticized Trump ever.

No, not really. Lefties don't call him corrupt. I don't see them participating in questioning Joe Biden actions in Ukraine, pay-for-play, the shady actions of his son, etc. They literally ignore it.

Nancy Pelosi made millions while in Congress and makes better returns on stock trades than Warren Buffet. I don't see lefties calling her corrupt. The criticism for that comes from the right, not the left. The left generally ignores it.

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Righties will say he just made a gaffe.

Actually the popular position on the right is not to give a flying flip about defending McConnel. Most lifetime politicians are rotten and corrupt regardless of political affiliation. Many on the right would be happy to see McConnel removed from office for his transgressions, as well as many others in Congress. Hence the derogatory term RINO. The right even accuses them of participating in the election fraud.

The slight difference here is the Left is disingenuous and generally defends or turns a blind eye to their corrupt politicians. The discussions almost always turn into a "Yeah, but look at this other corrupt politician", like you think I like corruption of any party.  ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 19, 2022, 06:45:34 AM »
I don't think that version of it will happen, no.

Even if the VAERS deaths were entirely accidental and not deliberate, I doubt they would care, so long as Pfizer can push more vaccines, Amazon can ship more boxes, and they can continue the mass mail-in-voting.  If you get injured it's still your own folly for taking it, and its still a test against you, deliberate or not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 11:22:11 PM »
I'm not doing anything to prepare.

If the world elites really wanted to put their resources into making us dead they could simply put the poison into existing drugs without our knowledge, into our food, into the water, or perhaps the air, and manipulate the governments to ignore it. It could all be done in a less visible and more underhanded way. It is possible that they are doing this as well; but I tend to believe that our rulers are cruel, yet benevolent, and make it possible for you to choose your own fate. If you want to smoke cigarettes, the information is available to you and you are allowed know the risks to the best of humanity's ability to determine it. That is your choice to make.

Clearly, in a cull, you don't kill everything, and want the best to survive. If this is some sort of cull, Covid vaccination is a test of intelligence, to which people may escape the propaganda and media hype by simply not taking the vaccines. While there is some social media censoring on a private level, there is no governmental legal effort going into eliminating the voice or research of the vaccine critics, even though not all countries have strong freedom of speech laws. The information is out there and circulating, available for people to decide for themselves. The situation is that you knew it was rushed and experimental, you knew there might be risk and that it involved novel genetic manipulation methods, but you did it anyway based on hype and fear mongering, so any injury you get is your own fault by design.

The Covid vaccines will never be truly mandated and enforced by the government, as they are doing it through illegal decree, and will always get swatted down by the court systems at the last moment. They could do it the proper legal way through the legal process if they wanted to but it's generally not attempted. In the US the Whitehouse is pushing vaccination by executive decree, while Congress is not making much effort to do it via law (on purpose, IMO).

Per breakdown of the economy, society is set up in a way in which it is too big to fail, so it won't. The central banks will always step in to bail out the banks, erase debt, radically transform the conceptual nature of currency if necessary, as they already have done to the dollar over the years. The existence of the police and the military and intelligence agencies prevents the possibility of any real violent revolution; making it unlikely to be attempted. People don't rebel against their government unless they feel that they have no other choice, and so the government will try to keep it hot but not boiling.

The vaccine deaths and vaccine enforcement and pressure will, therefore, be kept to a level people can accept but not rebel over. They may also be trying to distract you with high inflation; to pacify your attention towards improving your monetary situation instead of thinking too much about the government's tyranny. Probably not a coincidence. Duplicitous governments tend to trick, distract, and finally adapt to an allowable level to please the populous once it has pushed things to the limit, preventing mass conflict. In the end we may be conditioned into accepting the vaccines and vaccine deaths as an acceptable part of our lives, like we accept smoking and the many smoking deaths. No happy ending. No mass rebellion. They are simply too smart to allow rebellion to happen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 06:14:33 PM »
This link is interesting - Analysis: 100% of Deaths Following COVID-19 Shots are From Only 5% of the Manufacturer Lots According to VAERS

The claims are apparently reproducible with VAERS data. The article indicates that the affected batches were split up and sent to all US states. If true, it brings up further questions.

If it were a matter of "bad batches" there should certainly be a public effort to warn people who have taken those batches, recall the batches, etc.

If it were potentially an effort at population control concocted by evil billionaires it would presumably be a way to keep the injury count low enough so that people accept the vaccine without serious alarm, and eventually become injured over time as they receive their 15th booster shot dose.

There has been an effort to treat the vaccine like recharging your phone, encouraging the public to inject themselves over and over:


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: January 18, 2022, 05:09:30 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 17, 2022, 06:00:27 PM »
UK clinic tells woman not to take any more vaccines, claims that new safety data spells bad news.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 16, 2022, 02:37:32 PM »
Actually if you watch the video I linked earlier Trump appears to agree with the host that there are risks with the vaccine, which is why he states young and healthy people should not take it.
Of course there are.
But only in the same way that there are risks taking aspirin, or virtually any medicine.
There are risks in driving.
Or crossing the street.
There is virtually no risk free activity in life.

Aside from driving, depending on age, none of those are things young and healthy people shouldn't do.

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The ICU doctor I spoke to last summer

Considering that this is perhaps the fifth time you brought up your conversation with an ICU doctor you once had as your source of knowledge we can safely dismiss you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 16, 2022, 01:50:34 PM »
The Queen and Royal Family has apparently already judged him. That's good enough for me.
Judged him by not removing his Dukedom, not removing his HRH status, not removing his Vice Admiral Position in the Navy and judged him by allowing him to continue to live at The Royal Lodge in Great Windsor Park for free? All he has lost is the ability to call himself Lord of the Sea Scouts and a bunch of charity obligations. Sounds like a not guilty verdict to me.

This only tells me that the Queen thinks a prince's abuse of underaged girls is deserving of a revocation of military titles but not of Dukedom.

The Queen herself is an authority above the highest law in the land -

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/is-the-queen-really-above-the-law-1625/

From their homepage;

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"Royal Central is the most popular independent source for royal news on the web. Launched back in 2012 in the wake of the Diamond Jubilee, Royal Central originally began life on Twitter under the account name @RoyalFactsUK – an account dedicated to tweeting facts about Monarchies around the world.

Independent != False

She's literally the monarch, the highest authority of Britain.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 14, 2022, 06:37:38 PM »
We don't have a Prince Andrew thread, so here it is. The latest news appears to be that Prince Andrew has disgraced his family, his country, and and has been stripped of his military titles and patronages over the debacle.

Do you think anyone similarly accused of participating in the Epstein debacle should also be considered to have brought disgrace upon their country, family, et al ... ?

The Queen and Royal Family has apparently already judged him. That's good enough for me.

The Queen herself is an authority above the highest law in the land -

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/is-the-queen-really-above-the-law-1625/

    "To make it absolutely clear: The Queen (or the reigning Monarch) is above the law. It has been like this for centuries and remains true and practicable today."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 14, 2022, 03:59:37 AM »
We don't have a Prince Andrew thread, so here it is. The latest news appears to be that Prince Andrew has disgraced his family, his country, and and has been stripped of his military titles and patronages over the debacle.

New York Times - Prince Andrew Is Stripped of Military Titles as Sexual Abuse Case Proceeds

    LONDON — Prince Andrew, the second son of Queen Elizabeth II, has been forced to relinquish his military titles and royal charities, Buckingham Palace said on Thursday, a stinging rebuke by the British royal family a day after a federal judge in New York allowed a sexual abuse case against him to go ahead.

    The palace said that Andrew, 61, who has been accused by Virginia Giuffre of raping her while she was a teenager, would also no longer use the title “His Royal Highness,” a prized symbol of his status as a senior member of the royal family. In a terse statement, the palace said that Andrew would “continue not to undertake any public duties” and that he “is defending this case as a private citizen.”

    Andrew, who is also known as the Duke of York, has denied Ms. Giuffre’s allegations, which date from a period in which he was friendly with the financier and convicted sex predator Jeffrey Epstein. The duke’s lawyers tried to get her lawsuit dismissed, but the judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, ruled against him on Wednesday.

    The decision by Buckingham Palace completes a stunning fall from grace for a man who was once one of the royal family’s most popular members — a dashing war hero and eligible bachelor — but who has since become a disgraced figure, left to explain why he associated with a convicted criminal like Mr. Epstein.

    The announcement by Buckingham Palace came after extensive discussions within the royal family, according to people with ties to the palace. It was designed to head off an effort by Andrew to rehabilitate himself, according to one person. The language in Buckingham Palace’s statement, officials said, was meant to underscore the permanence of the sanction against him.

    Andrew had been largely banished from public life since November 2019, when he gave a disastrous interview to the BBC in which he insisted he had never met Ms. Giuffre and made several bizarre claims to deflect her charges, among them that he was medically incapable of sweating, as she had asserted.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 14, 2022, 02:44:04 AM »
Wow, you’re pretty scared to say what you think. Cool story.

I think that Covid is essentially just the flu, and that there are other ways to deal with the flu that makes the vaccine unnecessary. But the vaccine=irredeemable isn't really the anti-vax stance.

Dr. Robert Malone is a well known vaccine critic and a leading figure in the movement, and he recommends the vaccine for people over 65 with comorbidities. See the previous video @ 0:25:


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 10:09:17 PM »
I dont care that Trump says some things in favor of the vaccine.
Why not?
You keep posting about how experimental it is, how dangerous it could be, how ineffective it is. And here’s Trump saying the vaccine is safe and effective and recommending people have it. Isn’t that dangerous advice? Or are you wrong?

Actually if you watch the video I linked earlier Trump appears to agree with the host that there are risks with the vaccine, which is why he states young and healthy people should not take it. It is incorrect that Trump thinks its entirely safe.

Ultimately it's down to you if you think that the risks outweigh the benefits.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 02:09:01 PM »
I dont care that Trump says some things in favor of the vaccine. You seem to think that I care about what you do with your body and what free choices you make.

If I had to decide, however, I would suggest that you should take it too, and to keep getting the boosters. If it provides any benefit in immunity it will lower the risk of me getting covid, and also shoulders all of the health risks of the vaccine on to you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 01:57:48 PM »
No one has disagreed with this

That's not the message by the leftist media. According to the leftist media:

- We MUST be vaccinated
- Everyone needs to be vaccinated, even the young and healthy
- Get vaccinated or get fired.
- Get vaccinated or you cant do x
- Vaccinate the children too; vaccines now available to eight year olds

Many have professed agreement with much of that here. People have had themselves vaccinated even though they were not at risk and have also gotten their pregnant girlfriends vaccinated. You may have a slightly different stance, but the mainstream message being put out  is quite different to what Trump is saying.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 01:36:34 PM »
Trump says to go get your shot [if you choose and decide to do so] [and dont do it if you're young and healthy]

The disclaimers there almost entirely nullifies the leftist message. Now we need to consider if we want to or if we're at risk. Trump may be recommending the vaccine, but not to everyone, and certainly doesn't want it mandated. It should be your choice if you want to take it or not, and if you think that you are in the risk category. The disclaimers makes
 the message into something many people on the right have been saying all along.

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