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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 12, 2025, 07:15:36 PM »

I was now able to see the video LD posted.

The woman said she was trying to get to her apartment.

A. There is no evidence provided she had any business in that area.

II. The police told her to leave the area.

c. She ignored the situation.

You guys were all here cheering on the draconian response to covfefe.

Spare us your wails of anguish over this incident as they ring hollow.

A) Well, she likely had an ID that had her address on it.  Which the police could have asked for.  But no... they didn't.  They didn't even GIVE her the chance to show she had business. 

B) Of course, like a good boy, I'm sure you'd be like "Yes sir, I'll just sleep in the streets tonight,sir." >_>  What about all that love of freedom?  Doesn't apply to cops?

C) I think her standing a good 20ft away was not an "I'm ignoring the situation" kinda thing.  If she tried to walk through the line then sure, I'd probably agree.  But she didn't. 

So, do you think shooting her, when she was far from the line, not in the area, claimed to have business there, AND posed no threat... was appropriate behavior?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on June 12, 2025, 06:54:57 PM »

I was now able to see the video LD posted.

The woman said she was trying to get to her apartment.

A. There is no evidence provided she had any business in that area.

II. The police told her to leave the area.

c. She ignored the situation.

You guys were all here cheering on the draconian response to covfefe.

Spare us your wails of anguish over this incident as they ring hollow.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on June 12, 2025, 03:29:36 PM »

When the famous billionaire owner is coming from out of town and appears in front of the building with his limo, obviously everyone will know about it.

Of course people would have known he was there, that doesn't mean they would have expected him to come barging in to their dressing room while they were getting changed.

It appears to me that you are repeating liberal falsities.

I'm repeating Trump:

“You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

What's there to "get away with" if that's OK?

Obviously your tactic to keep defending the perversions of your cult leader is deny, deny, deny. Whatever helps you cope I guess.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on June 12, 2025, 02:56:17 PM »

Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?

Did you not even read the headlines?  She was trying to get home.  It was even in the url.

WATCH: Woman Shot by Police at Point Blank Range With Rubber Bullet While Trying to Get Home During LA Protests
"I live here, I live here," the woman insisted while crying

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Tom Bishop on June 12, 2025, 02:26:42 PM »

Actually they were once friends, but Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a pedophile.

Why would he have done that? Trump loves that sort of thing

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html#

Trump has openly boasted about doing this and sexually assaulting women. He has been adjudicated as a rapist.

The lengths you have to go to in order to defend him are increasingly desperate

This is clearly incorrect. When the famous billionaire owner is coming from out of town and appears in front of the building with his limo, obviously everyone will know about it. The chaperones told them ahead of time when a visitor was coming. A participant of the 1997 Miss Teen USA event you referenced says that you are promoting lies:

https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2016/10/13/trump-backstage-activity-in-97-exaggerated-says-former-miss-teen-nm/

A former Miss Teen New Mexico contestant that year confirmed that Trump made his way backstage at the Miss Teen USA pageant, but told NM Political Report that some reports of his actions have been exaggerated.

Victoria Hughes, Miss Teen New Mexico in 1997, said she remembers chaperones “saying that we had a visitor and to get covered up,” but stopped short of accusing Trump of inappropriate behavior.

“While I do not support Donald Trump, stories about him barging in on teenage girls is not correct,” Hughes wrote in an email to NM Political Report. “Our chaperones would never have allowed that to happen, and no one, not even Donald, deserves to be lied about in this way.”

It appears to me that you are repeating liberal falsities.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 12, 2025, 12:42:32 PM »

If you read the LA Times article, it does not get into the particulars about which you ask.

It simply states the woman entered an area that had been cordoned off by police.

Hence, my question to you.

Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?

So you didn't watch the video, or you'd know that she did not cross the police line.  She was a good 10-20 feet away from the line.

So unless cops have a habit of blocking off areas they stand several feet inside to stop people from entering... There was no reason for their reaction.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on June 12, 2025, 12:03:23 PM »

If you read the LA Times article, it does not get into the particulars about which you ask.

It simply states the woman entered an area that had been cordoned off by police.

Hence, my question to you.

Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 12, 2025, 11:50:53 AM »

LD, if an area has been cordoned off by the police, are you going to enter that area?

If so, what do you expect to happen?

At what point did she enter the area cordoned off?
And why was her residency blocked from residents?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on June 12, 2025, 10:39:18 AM »

LD, if an area has been cordoned off by the police, are you going to enter that area?

If so, what do you expect to happen?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on June 12, 2025, 09:15:17 AM »

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

>_>

on the notion of orchestrated performance videos

So it's fake, you say?

And your evidence is?

i would suggest re-reading what i actually said since i didn't say anything about fake

and also look up what happens to people hit at that range directly with those specific and generally non lethal munitions

"Orchestrated performance" sounds like a fancy way if saying 'this isn't a real event but one that was faked, like a play.'


I'm curious how you know exactly what he shot her with.  What is it, exactly, so I know.

Rubber bullets?
Plastic bullets?
Bean bag?


La times says it's a rubber bullets.
https://www.latintimes.com/watch-woman-shot-police-point-blank-range-rubber-bullet-while-trying-get-home-during-la-584823

But ok, sure... Still not seeing your point.  She was shot when she posed no threat.  Is that not cause enough to be angry?