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Flat Earth Debate / Re: Disproof of FET: Two sunsets by balloon.
« Last post by Obviously on Today at 01:07:35 AM »
Seems that a lot of these threads are bumping up against the issue of "perspective". Flat-earthers seem to think that it's a magical force that makes all the things they wish weren't true disappear. Perhaps we should start another thread where we can try to define this concept together? Here's the dictionary definition: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/perspective notice, no mention of mysterious forces here..

One obvious flaw with the FE argument is that they seem to think that perspective causes parallel lines to actually touch or maybe even cross, whereas this is not at all what happens. There is no evidence of this happening, and common sense & logic tell us that this is impossible. In another thread, I think Tom was getting close to saying that perspective somehow changes reality (which it so obviously doesn't, it only affects the viewer's perception of reality). Perhaps we need to start with the concept of asymptote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymptote -- In essence, while the parallel lines do seem to converge at a distance, they never actually meet, and the certainly do not cross. By the way, as an aside, this explains the whole "light spreading through the clouds" phenomenon, that flerfers like to use as supposed "proof" that the sun is way closer than science tell us it is. [sarcasm] After all, why do we need observations, measurements, logic, and reasoning, when it just looks like it's closer? [/sarcasm]
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Flat Earth and God
« Last post by Dither on Today at 12:38:50 AM »
Flat earth does need a "myth" to lean on.

No it doesn't, you have purposely misrepresented my statement.
There are flat earthers who are Athiests as well, you can hold any position you like.

A worldview doesn't have to make sense, take Evolution for example,
And the Big Bang??? Nothing creating something??? Sorry but that doesn't work either.
We are not omniscient so everything we conceive will have an element of faith to it.
And the position a person holds may send them down different roads.

But some dont worry about the roads and can live with the paradox.


 



 
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Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is Flat what is below it?
« Last post by junker on Today at 12:32:19 AM »
While I appreciate your thought and opinion on the topic, there is an edit button. No need to triple post, you can succinctly provide your opinion in one post.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Flat Earth and God
« Last post by junker on Today at 12:30:15 AM »
Does a person have to believe in God in order to believe that the Earth is flat?

No, but some Atheists have become Agnostics after making the switch.

In other words FET lends itself to a Creator myth, and it can magnify your religious convictions.
You bring whatever you have to the table, and if you have nothing, you'll probably look for something.

Excellent point Dither, Flat earth does need a "myth" to lean on. This is what causes the debates here to be so one sided: FE uses mythology, belief and denial whilst the RE simply use science and the latest accepted, provable fact.

Except that is not what happens here save for maybe a few users who are particularly religious. I'd suggest reading the FAQ and wiki as it is obvious you haven't done so (otherwise you would avoid ignorant posts such as this).
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« Last post by Boodidlie on September 19, 2017, 11:23:16 PM »

If I hand you a fake twenty dollar bill .... does that now mean that all twenty dollar bills are fake ?

No but all twenty one dollar bills are fake and that's what religions are.

that's why I don't look at "religion" .... I look at Jesus Christ and learn of him



It was "religion" that hung Jesus on a Cross




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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Verses about "sky dome" in quran
« Last post by devils advocate on September 19, 2017, 10:48:44 PM »
By the sky which returns

I miss Inky  :'(

There are stronger cases for the sky dome in more ancient literature.

Ancient literature Dither??? Do I read that you consider validity of text to be based on age rather than content? During Victorian times the Doctors of the day thought that leaches were a sound medical treatment for many conditions. Medicine has now moved on and we no longer use them. The ancients used to live far shorter lives in much less comfortable conditions and yet we are expected to believe their ideas of our world are superior to all our science can offer?
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Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is Flat what is below it?
« Last post by Antithecystem on September 19, 2017, 10:48:14 PM »
But if we live in a divinely created cosmos, maybe there's a literal hell below us, where Satan, his demons and collection of damned souls dwell.
If that's the case, could we drill a hole to hell?
Might there already be holes to hell in existence?
Does Satan and his minions use them to physically travel between the underworld and ours?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: No Religion= Peace
« Last post by James on September 19, 2017, 10:46:12 PM »
Seems to me that we are already doing it all without religion. If we are to say that the majority of conflict, both violent and political are religiously motivated, I think we are fooling ourselves. People may come in the name of some god, but greed and hunger make povery and war, religion is nothing more than an excuse. To fly a plane into a building may be one way, to get down and help someone regardless is another. No matter what we think about this or that religious group, the choice and the decision to work for the common good is still ours. And, may I suggest, there are more people in this world that prefer working towards the common good than to viloence. Religeous violence is unfortunately real, but so is our choice to do what is humane. I have a choice and a decision to make each day, I make it and act accordingly knowing full well that I may meet opposition, even agressive opposition, but I still have a choice. If I have no faith in a divine being, which seems to be more an more popular these days, then I am totally responsible for my actions as complete master of my own destiny. I therefore choose to either go peacibly or violently and use any reason or excuse to justify either position.
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Flat Earth General / Re: If the Earth is Flat what is below it?
« Last post by Antithecystem on September 19, 2017, 10:41:19 PM »
If it is infinitely deep, perhaps matter gets more and more compressed, dense, hard and solid the lower you get.
On the other hand, the continents could be cancellous and floating on liquids or even gases denser than water and air.
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Flat Earth Q&A / Re: Flat Earth and God
« Last post by devils advocate on September 19, 2017, 10:38:23 PM »
Does a person have to believe in God in order to believe that the Earth is flat?

No, but some Atheists have become Agnostics after making the switch.

In other words FET lends itself to a Creator myth, and it can magnify your religious convictions.
You bring whatever you have to the table, and if you have nothing, you'll probably look for something.

Excellent point Dither, Flat earth does need a "myth" to lean on. This is what causes the debates here to be so one sided: FE uses mythology, belief and denial whilst the RE simply use science and the latest accepted, provable fact.