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Flat Earth Community / On the Notion of Flat Earth Belief Growth

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 06:56:05 AM »

So Pete and me have crossed swords a few times on the idea that FE belief is growing to the point where it’s a significant percentage of people who believe in FE. Don’t get me wrong, you guys are certainly more known than you were 10 years ago and there’s certainly some evidence which shows it has got some traction in certain areas. Although there’s also evidence that some people simply pretend to believe in a flat earth online for the lolz.

Anyway, so scimandan spent a few hours on Omegle fishing for flat earthers and found not a one. Not the most scientific approach maybe, but make of this what you will. If FE belief was as prevalent as some on here claim then surely by chance you’d find some believers this way.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: My Happiest Thought

« Last post by fisherman on Today at 06:14:54 AM »

The water over marianas trench has limited significance to the overall mass beneath that part of Earth

Iceman, this seems like the type of question you would know the answer to...would tidal forces, both ocean and land cause the weight distribution of the earth to be constantly shifting?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Great pics of ISS

« Last post by The Earth Is A Globe. Deal With It on Today at 04:33:25 AM »

Alright, out with it. Why is it fake?

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Flat Earth Community / Great pics of ISS

« Last post by Iceman on Today at 02:42:20 AM »

Stumbled across these pics on reddit today

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNdrODKJzsB/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Pretty awesome shots of the ISS transiting a crescent moon in the early a.m.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: My Happiest Thought

« Last post by stevecanuck on Today at 01:12:50 AM »

The water over marianas trench has limited significance to the overall mass beneath that part of Earth

Nothing that anyone has said changes the fact that a disk that does not have even weight distribution will tilt. Think of a beer tray.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: My Happiest Thought

« Last post by stevecanuck on Today at 01:10:33 AM »

Because it's a completely different set of parameters. A boat is not flat. The walls of the boat allow for more leeway in terms of weight distribution. Move off center, and the boat will list, but the walls keep it afloat. However, move too much, and over it goes. Just go to youtube and you'll see hours of clips of people tipping boats and canoes.

Have you ever been on a large cruise ship?



Cruiseships are pretty stable. You aren't going to be able to walk to one side and cause the cruise ship to flip over. The larger the ship, the more stable it seems to be in response to waves and currents and irregularities like people walking around on it.

Stability is also less of a concern in the centripetal force version of UA: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=16319.msg210934#msg210934

Your own diagram of the bucket proves you wrong. It's perfectly symmetrical, the rope is tied EXACTLY to the MIDDLE of the handle, and the fluid contents of the bucket distribute EXACTLY evenly. Change one of those parameters and the bucket will wobble.

Not really. If you tied the rope to a different part of the handle other than the exact middle the water in the bucket would still be flat in relation to the center of rotation. The bucket would just be crooked and have a new center of mass.

A more realistic version might be a giant porous rock or natural object spinning around in space, with the flat ocean in one of the cavities at one side of the object, where water is flattened out away from the center of rotation due to the 1g centripetal force. It doesn't have to be a bucket and a rope.

When you put a disk on the water and try to stand on it, get back to me.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Can't sort by online.

« Last post by The Earth Is A Globe. Deal With It on Today at 01:00:50 AM »

While looking at the memberlist, I clicked on "status", but it gave me an error. It said to contact a moderator if the problem persists.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is there anything that RET cannot explain?

« Last post by The Earth Is A Globe. Deal With It on Today at 12:57:19 AM »

Oh, this could absolutely be done without a scale. Just look at the map and see the relative size. A scale would just make it even more painfully obvious that these sizes don't match up with real measurements.

This gave me a thought though, I've never seen a FE map with a scale. Maybe I just haven't been looking hard enough

No matter how hard you look, they won't be able to make one that corresponds with reality.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: My Happiest Thought

« Last post by fisherman on Today at 12:03:29 AM »

Please, let us all hear you avoid directly answering the logical question poised above again.

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No, they would not hit you at one drop per second.  The rate would depend on how fast you are moving toward the droplets.  And whatever the rate is, according your clock, it would be different according to a clock traveling with the water droplets.  Also, the water droplets would be length contracted.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: My Happiest Thought

« Last post by Tom Bishop on April 10, 2021, 11:30:47 PM »

Because it's a completely different set of parameters. A boat is not flat. The walls of the boat allow for more leeway in terms of weight distribution. Move off center, and the boat will list, but the walls keep it afloat. However, move too much, and over it goes. Just go to youtube and you'll see hours of clips of people tipping boats and canoes.

Have you ever been on a large cruise ship?



Cruiseships are pretty stable. You aren't going to be able to walk to one side and cause the cruise ship to flip over. The larger the ship, the more stable it seems to be in response to waves and currents and irregularities like people walking around on it.

Stability is also less of a concern in the centripetal force version of UA: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=16319.msg210934#msg210934

Your own diagram of the bucket proves you wrong. It's perfectly symmetrical, the rope is tied EXACTLY to the MIDDLE of the handle, and the fluid contents of the bucket distribute EXACTLY evenly. Change one of those parameters and the bucket will wobble.

Not really. If you tied the rope to a different part of the handle other than the exact middle the water in the bucket would still be flat in relation to the center of rotation. The bucket would just be crooked and have a new center of mass.

A more realistic version might be a giant porous rock or natural object spinning around in space, with the flat ocean in one of the cavities at one side of the object, where water is flattened out away from the center of rotation due to the 1g centripetal force. It doesn't have to be a bucket and a rope.