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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Google Maps
« Last post by inquisitive on Today at 12:21:44 AM »
Rowbotham didn't have the funds and resources to map and decipher the world on his own. He was just a medical doctor. Nor has any Flat Earther since. FET doesn't have billions of dollars being pumped into it like RET, to get it to work.

RET has layers and layers of assumptions and clockwork; the goal here is to decipher the truth.
How would you start if the funding was available?  What equipment would you use?
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Google Maps
« Last post by Tom Bishop on Today at 12:19:44 AM »
Rowbotham didn't have the funds and resources to map and decipher the world on his own. He was just a medical doctor. Nor has any Flat Earther since. FET doesn't have billions of dollars being pumped into it like RET, to develop construct. Rowbotham interpreted what was available to him, just like today.

RET has layers and layers of assumptions and clockwork; the goal here is to decipher the truth.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Google Maps
« Last post by iamcpc on Today at 12:14:48 AM »
It concerns me when you say about FE believers don't accept that any map of the Earth actually exists. What is the circular 'monopole' model of the Earth featured in FEW if that is not some kind of world map?

It's an idea of what the flat earth might possibly maybe kinda sort look like. When you bring up questions about the impossibility travel between locations on the edge of the 'monopole' model.  (specifically impossible distances corroborated by travel times, shipping times, cartography, and surveying) the response is:

1. That is not the map of the earth.
2. There is no map of the earth
3. You have disproved continental configuration 21398572938759287 what about continental configuration 21398572938759288?

What really blows my mind is that you can get on a plane in America and fly to virtually any country on earth yet people believe there is no map of the earth.
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Hey all. Here's a question I've been wondering about. There's a website which shows you where on earth the ISS will be travelling over and when. What exactly is the ISS in the flat earth model?

There are many different explanations I've read on these forums. I'll list a few:

1. A meteor or meteorite
2. A balloon
3. Some sort of high altitude plane
4. A high altitude earth lab
5. Some sort of projection/hologram
6. You can't. Any video/photograph of the ISS is fake.
7. A giant flying solar panel.



How come it can be observed using fairly run of the mill telescopes and cameras?

Because they designed "it" to be visible.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Google Maps
« Last post by ShootingStar on Today at 12:01:46 AM »
Yes I have read many of Mr Bishops comments and they are interesting to say the least. I have seen that he often 'defends' most of the statements he makes my simply claiming that are personal opinions. That though doesn't make him right. It is my personal opinion that the Earth is a sphere (well... oblate spheroid in the sense that the polar diameter is slightly less than the equatorial).

I'm pretty sure that the flat earth community is not a large one and when one reads through many of the claims made in the FEW pages, that is hardly surprising. They seem to rely very heavily on material which is out dated and in many cases quite simply wrong. On this basis the FE 'theory' is more an ideology.  The claims made by FE theorists seem to change more often that the British weather!  After reading  "If a map is created and it does not match reality then there are almost an infinite number of continental configurations and we just have to try another one"  the old saying about trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole comes very much to mind!

It concerns me when you say about FE believers don't accept that any map of the Earth actually exists. What is the circular 'monopole' model of the Earth featured in FEW if that is not some kind of world map?
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: More on "13 Miles: 60 ft NOT Hidden".
« Last post by Bobby Shafto on December 18, 2018, 11:30:56 PM »
Here's a short clip of today's mirror test. Note that this flash is the result of using a 7" diameter round mirror.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Google Maps
« Last post by iamcpc on December 18, 2018, 10:14:17 PM »
If you zoom out far enough in Google Earth or Google Maps you will quickly see the Earth become a spherical shape. Does this mean then that FE believers don't use what is probably the worlds most used digital mapping system?

It's widely accepted, among the flat earth community, that no map of the earth exists.


Yahoo maps is pretty much the same. The main difference is that if you zoom out the earth is not a sphere. The earth is show as a flat 2d image. Why this could not be used as a flat earth map is totally beyond me. It says nothing about the shape of the earth.

https://search.yahoo.com/search/?p=maps


I've used this map, or several other maps which are are 2d to navigate thousands and thousands of square miles of this earth by plane, train, bus, and car in multiple continents.

Take Tom Bishop for example. He is the most vocal FE supporter here. His belief is that:



-no one has created a map.
-There is no map creating budget.
-If a map is created and it does not match reality then there are almost an infinite number of continental configurations and we just have to try another one
-there are small flat earth maps being used for navigation on small scale but no global maps. The coordinates are not known or are classified.












We can use maps to travel from Kansas to Alaska
then use that exact same map to travel from Alaska to Brazil
then use that exact same map to travel to and from all the continents and countries on earth.

It seems to me like someone has pieced together one full map of locations of all of the countries on earth. Do you disagree?

I don't agree that all way-points are available. Not only is it based on flat maps, some of the coordinate transformations are actually classified by government.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Details In Gods Message
« Last post by Flatearther4761 on December 18, 2018, 09:19:06 PM »
I am very intrigued by your post. I agree completely. I also believe the government is in charge for the round earth theory. For what reason, I don't know
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Illumination of Western Horizon at Sunrise
« Last post by Bobby Shafto on December 18, 2018, 07:18:48 PM »
You're using ratios, which works.
5:5280
3000:3168000

Using trig, a span of 5' at a distance of 5280' subtends an arc of 0.05426° or 3.25 arcminutes. That's probably not small enough to make the span appear to "merge," but let's just say it is for the sake of illustration.

For a span of 3000 miles to subtend an angle of 0.054°, it would have to be:
3000/tan(0.5426°) ~3,168,000 miles way.

Watch what happens. For 3000 to subtend the stated angle, it must be this far in the distance, per perspective:
1° -> 171,870 miles away
0.5° -> 343,766 miles away
0.25° -> 687,545 miles away
0.125° -> 1,375,100 miles away
0.063° -> 2,728,371 miles away

Every halving of the angular span requires a doubling of the distance. That's why a sun even just 10 miles above a flat earth runs out of real estate before it can drop to 1/60th of a degree elevation.

I mentioned that previously, here and on the Unlit Clouds topic. For a sun to appear to set (or rise) on a flat earth, you've got to have some upward bending of the sun's light. Perspective doesn't cut it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Illumination of Western Horizon at Sunrise
« Last post by Curiosity File on December 18, 2018, 06:43:14 PM »
Help me out here you guys with math skills
round off the 58" to 5'
1 mile to converge 5'.
The calculations I come up with is 3,168,000. if that's miles, the amount of miles it would take 3,000 to converge with the horizon, if that's correct the idea of perspective is screwed.
I could be way off though. But even it it were only 2 miles instead of 3 million miles off the edge of the flat earth it throws a wrench in the perspective idea.
Somebody else want to give it a try.