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https://imgur.com/gallery/qnpKl0j

Defence lawyer's Twitter thread of instances of unprovoked, almost casual brutality from the police has reached over 300 entries now.

In the instance above, elderly man pushed over by police, cracks head on concrete, and they casually walk past him like he's a piece of trash

Wheelchair-bound homeless guy in LA shot and blinded in one eye

Journalist ordered to lie face down, while waving his press credentials and pleading to be let up, a group of cops walk past, and one of them casually pepper sprays him, apparently out of spite.

Numerous cases of people blinded or injured from close-quarters hits from rubber bullets and such

Utah police rush up to clearly fragile older man WITH A WALKING STICK and jostle him along the road until he falls.

Woman is sitting on ground, face covered, apparently from effects of pepper spray, and cop walks up and casually kicks her over.

etc

etc

@greg_doucette



This is a 2 sided problem when it comes to inner cities and poor people.   

1.  The Police are undertrained, underpaid, and under-educated.    They developed an "us against them" mentality and it shows.
2.  You have vast areas of people that have lived with poverty for generations.  Except for a few outliers, no one succeeds and those few have left.   The young people have no one to look up to besides the criminals that have money, nice cars, clothes, guns, etc.


Now put these 2 groups together and it's no surprise that shit hits the fan.



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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Are the American police out of control?
« Last post by ChrisTP on June 29, 2020, 04:23:32 PM »
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I find it hard to believe you are so quick to accept the word of another regarding racial injustice, having experienced none yourself.
What makes you say that? What a strange stance since you've seen literally 0% of my life experiences and you've no idea what I look like or what my background is. I've certainly had people discriminate me based on race and gender (in fact it's the trendy thing to do at universities by 'woke' students at the moment). I've experienced injustice, even if it's not to the degree of getting shot at by police. Regardless, it's pretty obvious based on the vast amounts of evidence that racism exists and it goes both ways, but one way has been more extreme. Hell I've had people pull the race card on me even though I'd consider myself rather of accepting (or rather I don't give a shit) of peoples race so it's not to say people don't randomly pull the race card at every chance because some do. If racism didn't exist people wouldn't think to pull a race card though.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by TomInAustin on June 29, 2020, 04:17:38 PM »
Thork, I want people to have that attitude. I want people to be paranoid that the Orange Man will win again,  despite the overwhelming evidence that he won't. Apparently it's the only way to energize enough Democrats to make a difference.

Sadly America's youth will not vote, they just can't be bothered.  Maybe if they could vote on Tik Tok?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by Rama Set on June 29, 2020, 04:04:04 PM »
This is true for every single person on the planet.

TIL POTUS doesn't matter.
Please describe one thing any president has done that impacted your life to any degree.

Why are you singling me out?  You said it was true for every single person on the planet.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by totallackey on June 29, 2020, 03:51:59 PM »
This is true for every single person on the planet.

TIL POTUS doesn't matter.
Please describe one thing any president has done that impacted your life to any degree.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by Rama Set on June 29, 2020, 03:48:05 PM »
This is true for every single person on the planet.

TIL POTUS doesn't matter.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by totallackey on June 29, 2020, 03:41:42 PM »
Also, I'm with Roundy.  We got complacent last time and it fucked us over.  Hell, I'm gonna vote this time around.

...It didn't change your life one jot having Trump.
This is true for every single person on the planet.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: A question to our resident Brexiteer
« Last post by Rama Set on June 29, 2020, 03:30:12 PM »
One the rest of the world just had to suck up.

Incorrect.  We can have conversations that will hopefully influence American voters.
Are you having conversations to influence Russian voters? What about Chinese voters or French voters or Italian voters or Indian voters? What is the obsession with American politics?

Well I happen to live right next to the USA and we do 70% of our commerce with the USA.  They also happen to be the largest economic power in the world.

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The best answer I can come up with, is that it is in English so our lazy journalists can copy and paste it into their news sites. But I don't care about America nearly as much as British coverage of American news would suggest. I don't think most Brits do. Most Brits would struggle to name the Prime Minister of Australia or the main parties in New Zealand. And yet they know blow by blow every last insignificant and irrelevant detail of Trump's actions. Why does his healthcare policy get so much UK air time? It is domestic policy. British people don't know anything about Indian health policy or Japanese policy, we aren't told. But every last detail of US. The Muller investigation. Why would the British public care? But again excruciating detail and it is so irrelevant to us. And yet British people follow this and have full blown arguments WITH OTHER BRITISH PEOPLE about it!

Maybe because the actions the USA takes have an impact on the world?


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One of my friends has Trump derangement syndrome. He gets incredibly worked up about Trump's latest endeavours. And it makes no difference to his life at all. We need less US politics in our news. It only imports US problems like black lives matter or antifa.

Cool story.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter
« Last post by Rama Set on June 29, 2020, 03:12:19 PM »
You're also the bad guys, the ones who started it.
Hardly. The Romans were over here enslaving us 2000 years earlier. Every major civilisation has had slaves. Every single one. And it was the British who stopped it.

We are talking about chattel slave trade from Africa to North America, which the UK participated in for over 150 years and transported over 3 million slaves to the New World.  It's good the UK stopped it but to say...
Slavery is a part of US history. Not British history.
...is completely false and you know that.

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Guess who boycotted cheap cotton and demanded fair trade and refused to buy cotton picked by slaves despite their government refusing to abolish slavery?

Just as slavery was ending a few factory workers decided to take a stance against slave cotton, not all of them mind you. So it took almost 50 years after the abolishing of slavery to take a principled stance on slave picked cotton, and that stance was taken by a tiny minority of UK citizens who happened to wield no power?  Seems like the UK's morals weren't as strong as you are touting them.

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We really were the good guys in all this, and we don't deserve to be painted as the worst slave owning villains of all time.

No one has done that.  Stop lying.

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The truth is the exact opposite.

Evidently false.  The UK kept slaves, exported millions more and was a main buyer of slave picked cotton for the vast majority of the time the industry existed after they abolished slaves.

Trying to minimize the UKs role in this is just a vain attempt to protect your nationalist ego.  You would do well to be a true patriot and accept your history so that it's lessons can continue to be soaked in for future generations; we don't want to be doomed to repeat it do we?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 29, 2020, 03:03:52 PM »
Also, I'm with Roundy.  We got complacent last time and it fucked us over.  Hell, I'm gonna vote this time around.

You don't even live in the US anymore. It didn't change your life one jot having Trump. You've been watching too much CNN again.

We don't get CNN over here. :P
I am also a citizen so his actions reflect on me.
I also file taxes.  I got his stimulus money and spent it in Norway.