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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Size/distance of Sun
« Last post by dichotomy on September 11, 2019, 09:56:05 AM »
Billions? Who said Venus is billions of miles away?
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Size/distance of Sun
« Last post by somerled on September 11, 2019, 09:36:45 AM »
How does a radar signal from a rotating object moving through space at 66,000mph travel billions of miles to another rotating moving object ? - which then is supposed to reflect this incredibly weak signal back to the origin which is nowhere near where it was and the signal , which all the while , obeying the inverse square law and optical laws of reflection from a sphere must be next to nothing in strength .  Incredible .

Metajunk assumes whichever latitudes are used by whichever model and applies these triangulations , from and to moving objects to a perfect sphere . Then he assumes flat earth is just the globe model placed onto a flat map keeping the same long/lat coordinates.
It's pseudo science.

Maybe you could radar range the planets and the sun , especially if they are only a few thousand miles away .
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Modern experiments
« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on September 11, 2019, 09:00:07 AM »
Receding from curving light rays also results in greater curvature with distance.

But I'm confused. From 21.6 miles away in that video a third of the building was hidden. Not far from 200 feet. And yet you claim

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it is possible to see people at the waters edge on the adjacent beach 23 miles away near the lighthouse. The entire beach is visible down to the water splashing upon the shore. Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore and teenagers merrily throwing Frisbees to one another. I can see runners jogging along the water's edge with their dogs. From my vantage point the entire beach is visible.

So you were further away. And your observation height was lower. Why were curving light rays not a problem for you?
And it can't just have been conditions on the day because you claim you can repeat this any time you want:

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"Whenever I have doubts about the shape of the earth I simply walk outside my home, down to the beach, and perform this simple test. Provided that there is no fog and the day is clear and calm, the same result comes up over and over throughout the year."

It's a shame that all the times you have done this you have never actually documented the observation. Are we supposed to just take your word for it? As someone once said:
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If you are making your claim without evidence then we can discard it without evidence.


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Refer to the thread on that topic. Your hero Bobby Shafto shows that the amount hidden did not match the Globe Earth curvature. The amount offset from the calculated Globe Earth curvature changed with every shot.

Yes. That tells us the atmosphere is complicated and can cause effects which mean observations don't match a perfect spherical earth with no atmosphere. That is well known.
But what did his observations never do? It never matched the observation you claim. Not once.

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You guys point us to what is demonstrably an illusion to claim that the earth is curved.

And you are claiming that the illusion doesn't exist at all when you take observations. Observations you have no evidence for.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on September 11, 2019, 08:45:44 AM »
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.

Ssooo... Trump chose a man we all knew was a warmonger to be secretary of defense so he can expose him as a war monger?
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Post Your Favorite NASA ISS Fails
« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on September 11, 2019, 08:39:35 AM »
Personally, I'm not arguing anything. There's nothing to argue against.
Anyone with an agenda can take footage, over-analyse it and find things which fit their narrative.
Again, look up confirmation bias.
Find me a NASA CGI artist or an actor pretending to be an astronaut or one of the crew who did the filming, costume or set design or whatever whistle-blowing about what a sham it all is, then we can talk.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by totallackey on September 11, 2019, 06:37:42 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/09/politics/russia-us-spy-extracted/index.html

This is great. The intelligence community doesn't trust Trump at all, and for good reason.
Another fake news RUSSIAN story.

Great reporting by a top notch news agency .
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
Trump puts them in place and exposes them for what they are.
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Flat Earth Theory / Debate
« Last post by sergio999 on September 11, 2019, 01:47:34 AM »
Hello guys, my mother tongue is not english but I will try to explain myself. Firstable I just want to make clear that my thread is with all due respect and I hope to have the opportunity to debate  in a very respectful way with you and share ideas.

I am an airline pilot  and a few years ago a passenger, while disembarking, asked for permission to enter the cockpit. He told me that he belived that the Earth was flat and asked me why airplanes don’t go to outer space while flying if the Earth is curved. I didnt understand his question at first and I tought he was joking (altought he looked very kind and serious) but I explained how airplanes maintain altitude and how a barometer works. This guy made me curious about the Flath Earth movement and since then I have watched a lot of videos on Youtube and read some forums online.

What I have learned is that many of this Flat Earth videos are manipulated and show incomplete or false information.  Many Flat Earth arguments are easily discarded with information available on internet.

After all, I still don’t get what the purpuse of hidding that the Earth is flat is. Are you aware of the amount of people that should be involved in this conspiracy? Do you belive that after hundreds of years and thousands of people involve this “secret” could remain secret?

I would like to propose to debate some arguments in this thread. I would like to start with this. How do you explain that when the sun or the moon rise or set they sometimes look bigger than when they are higher in the sky? This is very easily explained in a round Earth.

Thank you guys.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by honk on September 11, 2019, 12:46:23 AM »
Trump literally hired Bolton. If he's solving a problem by firing him, it's one that he created himself. And Bolton has always been notorious for his hawkishness.

But yeah, multi-dimensional chess, way to trigger the libs, and all that. ::)
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Modern experiments
« Last post by stack on September 10, 2019, 10:34:03 PM »

Why did you cut half of the image off, specifically removing the Flat Earth Height Hidden table?

It's a moot point. the RE predictions for observations made in a vacuum didn't match the observations we see. In addition the FE predictions for observations made in a vacuum didn't match the observations we see.

To me the take away is that you can't see a ship sinking over the ocean and promptly claim the shape of the earth is ___________. You must at least attempt to factor in chaotic atmospheric and optical variables which have been demonstrated, over and over again, to have a significant impact on what our human brains perceive.

First off, the two tables, one for curved hidden and one for flat hidden, was a single image file. Tom, in order to try and make his point, deliberately cropped out the second table from the image. Shady, at best.

For two, there is a great disparity between the FE and GE observations in this example. FE is way off. And we did factor in atmospheric conditions on the GE side as seen in the table above. But there is no FE explanation for 100's of feet to be obscured.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Modern experiments
« Last post by stack on September 10, 2019, 10:24:06 PM »
The sinking doesn't match a Flat Earth? Our minds are blown, assuredly.

The matter is demonstrated to be an illusion. The mechanism which causes it is irrelevant. Since it is an illusion it cannot be used as evidence for a Globe Earth. Aristotile's sinking ship proof is inconsistent.  An inconsistent proof is not proof of a globe.

GE can use the illusion of refraction to pull the numbers in line in this example:



For FE it's not just that the sinking doesn't match a flat earth, it's way way off; ex., there's a 321' wall of water in front of a skyscraper with no explanation. Where did that Tsunami come from?