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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on December 18, 2018, 06:40:07 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/18/677778958/trump-foundation-to-dissolve-amid-new-york-ags-investigation
Oh look, the Trump foundation is being dissolved due to illegal activity before the Clinton Foundation despite the overwhelming evidence the Right has. Go figure.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Illumination of Western Horizon at Sunrise
« Last post by Curiosity File on December 18, 2018, 06:00:40 PM »
Another thing to keep in mind is that railroad tracks (in the US, at least) are only about 58 inches apart and take a mile or more to appear to converge.  The sun is (depending on who you ask) anywhere from from a few hundred to a few thousand miles high but appears to converge with a horizon that is maybe a few dozen miles away.  How does that make any logical sense whatsoever?
I brought up that point in other threads but it got over looked or buried.
The missing part of the formula is the distance it would take the sun to converge with the horizon. Find that answer and it would tell us if it were possible by perspective or not. If that distance put the sun hundreds or thousands of miles out passed the edge of the flat earth then we know we need to look at alternative possibilities. 
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Illumination of Western Horizon at Sunrise
« Last post by markjo on December 18, 2018, 05:42:37 PM »
Another thing to keep in mind is that railroad tracks (in the US, at least) are only about 58 inches apart and take a mile or more to appear to converge.  The sun is (depending on who you ask) anywhere from from a few hundred to a few thousand miles high but appears to converge with a horizon that is maybe a few dozen miles away.  How does that make any logical sense whatsoever?
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Flat Earth Theory / Google Maps
« Last post by ShootingStar on December 18, 2018, 05:42:14 PM »
If you zoom out far enough in Google Earth or Google Maps you will quickly see the Earth become a spherical shape. Does this mean then that FE believers don't use what is probably the worlds most used digital mapping system?
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Illumination of Western Horizon at Sunrise
« Last post by George Jetson on December 18, 2018, 05:36:40 PM »
People always conflate optical perception with tangible perception.  Lines may be tangibly parallel but not optically parallel if the lines are viewed from certain perspectives.  When train tracks are viewed head on from the ground they are no longer optically parallel but at angles to each other while still being tangibly parallel.  Tangible geometry does not change with perspective, optical geometry does.  Read Bishop George Berkeley's works on optics for more on this.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Last post by JCM on December 18, 2018, 05:26:29 PM »
The principles of sundials are the same everywhere in the world.
It was used on flat ground.

My multiverse principle is simple.
Everyone has the same celestial sphere.
The celestial Spheres revolve around the North Pole from the east to the west.
The North Star moves at a constant rate with distance along the longitude.
All celestial bodies are holograms.
The Equatorial Sundial would disagree with you.  It looks more like a wheel with spokes. The northern side works March to September and the southern side works from September to March.  Interestingly the numbers go clockwise for the Northern Hemisphere side and counterclockwise for the Southern Hemisphere side.   All sundials in the Southern Hemisphere numbers go counterclockwise.

There is nothing simple about a holographic celestial sphere... Please elaborate further if you can. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Earth's Oval Orbit defies Science!
« Last post by junker on December 18, 2018, 01:37:40 PM »
This is not a FEM topic...

Moved.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Last post by zorbakim on December 18, 2018, 12:43:43 PM »
The principles of sundials are the same everywhere in the world.
It was used on flat ground.

My multiverse principle is simple.
Everyone has the same celestial sphere.
The celestial Spheres revolve around the North Pole from the east to the west.
The North Star moves at a constant rate with distance along the longitude.
All celestial bodies are holograms.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Earth's Oval Orbit defies Science!
« Last post by stack on December 18, 2018, 10:31:44 AM »
A system with 80% water, will and have to obey all the rules of physics and hydro/fluid dynamics

If as claimed, earth is orbiting the sun, and if the orbit was a perfect circle, my discussion would be easily discarded and maybe obsolete, or at least hard to prove

But with an Oval orbit, things change drastically, especially when the acclaimed path is about to change direction at the farthest points

Water despite of the acclaimed gravity, should and must obey the laws of physics such as inertia and momentum, so at the farthest points of the acclaimed orbit, water should drastically shift on the earth to the outer side of the orbit as the earth makes its return towards the sun. Centripetal and centrifugal forces cannot be just acting on the surface of earth, if it was a globe, but they should be workable on the orbital level, hence the shift of all fluids massiv as oceans and seas should be very noticeable same as tides are.

At the farthest points of the orbit (yellow arrows indicated in the picture) and when earth is supposedly changing its direction, why is never any shift in the water bodies on earth?

Thanks for reading

Interesting point, however, "Earth's orbit has an eccentricity of less than 0.02, which means that it is very close to being circular. That is why the difference between the Earth's distance from the Sun at perihelion and aphelion is very little – less than 5 million km...While it is true that Earth does have a perihelion, or point at which it is closest to the sun, and an aphelion, its farthest point from the Sun, the difference between these distances is too minimal to have any significant impact on the Earth's seasons and climate."

Presumably tides as well.

https://phys.org/news/2014-11-earth-orbit-sun.html


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: multiverse: distance to the sun is 6360km
« Last post by JCM on December 18, 2018, 09:28:16 AM »
Measuring the Sun’s height above the Earth in this method gives vastly different heights depending on where you are in the world as well as the time of the year.  So, either the method is extremely flawed, or the Sun is physically in different places to different people. Which is it? 

This also ignores the bigger issues of a near sun/moon system in that it has no explanation for worldwide observance of the moon phases which don’t change significantly in one day while a near moon/sun system would orbit the entire Earth in that day producing different phases very quickly.  How would a near moon/sun system produce the phases we can see? 

As for the multiverse based on individuals, not on physical universes, can you explain that more please?

With regard to sun dials, there are many different kinds and they look quite different for different tasks as well as needing to be set up differently for different latitudes and season to accurately tell time...  Now, why would sun dials be different on different latitudes if the Earth were flat? What are they being lined up against? The surface of the Earth? or another angle?

For more information on sun dials this is a very good site you should read through...  http://sundialsoc.org.uk/old/HDSW.php