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« Reply #13160 on: June 06, 2025, 04:44:30 PM »
There was no need to infer anything. We've known about Trump and Epstein's close connection for decades. Trump fans usually just refuse to accept that fact, or even more amusingly, concoct elaborate theories about how Trump was secretly "undercover" the whole time in preparation for his eventual war against the Deep State.
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« Reply #13161 on: June 06, 2025, 05:34:23 PM »
There was no need to infer anything. We've known about Trump and Epstein's close connection for decades. Trump fans usually just refuse to accept that fate, or even more amusingly, concoct elaborate theories about Trump was secretly "undercover" the whole time in preparation for his eventual war against the Deep State.

Ah, but most connections are friend or a providing him with real estate.  Not that Trump was a customer of Epstein.  AKA: pedophile.
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« Reply #13162 on: June 07, 2025, 01:19:35 AM »
There was no need to infer anything. We've known about Trump and Epstein's close connection for decades. Trump fans usually just refuse to accept that fate, or even more amusingly, concoct elaborate theories about Trump was secretly "undercover" the whole time in preparation for his eventual war against the Deep State.

Actually they were once friends, but Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a pedophile.

See: https://www.the-sun.com/news/618186/donald-trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-mar-a-lago-underage-girl/



It looks like you and the Democrats have foolishly taken the bait in this manufactured feud. Previously Democrats were putting up roadblocks to getting the Epstein information out to the public, with Biden notably refraining from releasing the files.

Elon seems to have found the key to convincing the entrenched establishment to throw their celebrities and donor elite under the bus. The key is to dangle the prospect of finally getting Trump. Democrat Reps are now putting pressure on the FBI to get the full unredacted Epstein files.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5337155-democrats-ask-bondi-for-epstein-files-after-musks-trump-allegation/



Notice Elon's purposely vague statement on this that Trump is "in the Epstein files". We already knew this. The fact that no further details or accusations are made, only inferences, is evidence that this is a trick.
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« Reply #13163 on: June 07, 2025, 02:10:40 AM »
Elon states that he will "apologise profusely" to Trump once the Epstein files are released. This is an odd comment, considering that his grievances were originally about an entirely different topic, but he is apparently now able to wave it all away.



If Elon knew that Trump did bad things to children, why would he "apologise profusely" to Trump once the files were released showing this? This does not make much sense, and further suggests that this is manufactured.
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« Reply #13164 on: June 07, 2025, 03:55:49 AM »
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A lawyer for one of Epstein's victims reveals that, when asked if the pedophile had been "expelled" after "trying to take home a member's 15-year-old daughter," Trump said that "something along those lines happened."

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This led Edwards to ask about the Mar-a-Lago rumor involving a 15-year-old girl.

"He paused before saying that something along those lines happened but he could not recall the exact details and instead referred me to his Mar-a-Lago manager, Bernd Lembcke," Edwards writes in the book.

Lembcke would not confirm or deny the story, states Edwards.

Okay, so the actual story here is that Trump claims that he banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago for being a pedophile. It's interesting how often this story is repeated without the very important qualifier that the only person vouching for it being true is Trump himself. And even if the story is true, which it almost certainly isn't, it doesn't really make Trump look like a hero to say "Not in my backyard" and wash his hands of the matter. If he had actually taken decisive action, like going to the police, I'd be impressed. Frankly, I don't believe that anyone who hung around with Epstein for years wouldn't have known about his preference for underage women.

It looks like you and the Democrats have foolishly taken the bait in this manufactured feud. Previously Democrats were putting up roadblocks to getting the Epstein information out to the public, with Biden notably refraining from releasing the files.

Elon seems to have found the key to convincing the entrenched establishment to throw their celebrities and donor elite under the bus. The key is the prospect of getting Trump. Democrat Reps are now putting pressure on the FBI to get the full unredacted Epstein files.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5337155-democrats-ask-bondi-for-epstein-files-after-musks-trump-allegation/



Notice Elon's purposely vague statement on this that Trump is "in the Epstein files". We already knew this. The fact that no further details or accusations are made, only inferences, is evidence that this is a trick.

Biden isn't the president, Trump is, and all three branches of the government are firmly under Republican control. Trump doesn't need Democrats or "the entrenched establishment" to ask for the Epstein files to be released. He can do it any time he wants. He doesn't want to (recall him backing out when he had already promised to release them earlier in the year) because he'll be implicated by them.

If Elon knew that Trump did bad things to children, why would he "apologise profusely" to Trump once the files were released showing this? This does not make much sense, and further suggests that this is manufactured.

The obvious inference is that he'll apologize if he's wrong. This is common phrasing in arguments. "You're cheating on me! Show me your texts!" "How dare you! Apologize right now!" "I'll apologize once I've seen your texts!" Besides, we can easily turn your logic around here - if what Elon said is so obviously nonsensical, then why did he say it at all? Surely he doesn't want people to know that this is all staged, so why would this being staged apparently make it more likely for him to say nonsensical things than if it were real?
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« Reply #13165 on: June 07, 2025, 09:39:08 AM »
Actually they were once friends, but Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a pedophile.
Why would he have done that? Trump loves that sort of thing

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Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html#

Trump has openly boasted about doing this and sexually assaulting women. He has been adjudicated as a rapist.

The lengths you have to go to in order to defend him are increasingly desperate
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13166 on: June 07, 2025, 12:26:51 PM »
https://patriots.win/p/19BGcnyY78/musk-time-to-drop-the-really-big/c

lol the comments section is one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen. this is amazing.

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It looks like you and the Democrats have foolishly taken the bait in this manufactured feud.

lmao.

yeah fam everything is 69d chess. everything you've been waiting for is finally just about to happen totally for real this time. just a few more days.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #13167 on: June 07, 2025, 12:56:48 PM »
No fan of Mr Tangerine Man, but I think someone needs to play Devil's advocate here.  Without context, an (unsubstantiated) "Trump appears in Epstein files" is meaningless. 

"Jesus appears in the Holy Bible". 
"Satan appears in the Holy Bible. 

So.  "DuncanDoenitz appears in the Holy Bible"; should I be pleased or pissed off?     

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« Reply #13168 on: June 08, 2025, 01:29:52 AM »
That phrasing came from Elon, and it was clearly delivered in a hostile spirit, so presumably he meant that Trump was mentioned in the files in a bad way.
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« Reply #13169 on: June 11, 2025, 07:29:18 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

>_>
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« Reply #13170 on: June 11, 2025, 10:03:00 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

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« Reply #13171 on: June 11, 2025, 10:05:14 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

>_>

on the notion of orchestrated performance videos

So it's fake, you say?

And your evidence is?
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« Reply #13172 on: June 12, 2025, 06:31:11 AM »
https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

>_>

on the notion of orchestrated performance videos

So it's fake, you say?

And your evidence is?

i would suggest re-reading what i actually said since i didn't say anything about fake

and also look up what happens to people hit at that range directly with those specific and generally non lethal munitions

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« Reply #13173 on: June 12, 2025, 09:15:17 AM »
https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post/3lrbukrqnvc26

So apparently Cops like to shoot unarmed women.  I'm so glad Trump is in office to help keep that brave officer from prison.

>_>

on the notion of orchestrated performance videos

So it's fake, you say?

And your evidence is?

i would suggest re-reading what i actually said since i didn't say anything about fake

and also look up what happens to people hit at that range directly with those specific and generally non lethal munitions

"Orchestrated performance" sounds like a fancy way if saying 'this isn't a real event but one that was faked, like a play.'


I'm curious how you know exactly what he shot her with.  What is it, exactly, so I know.

Rubber bullets?
Plastic bullets?
Bean bag?


La times says it's a rubber bullets.
https://www.latintimes.com/watch-woman-shot-police-point-blank-range-rubber-bullet-while-trying-get-home-during-la-584823

But ok, sure... Still not seeing your point.  She was shot when she posed no threat.  Is that not cause enough to be angry?
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« Reply #13174 on: June 12, 2025, 10:39:18 AM »
LD, if an area has been cordoned off by the police, are you going to enter that area?

If so, what do you expect to happen?
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« Reply #13175 on: June 12, 2025, 11:50:53 AM »
LD, if an area has been cordoned off by the police, are you going to enter that area?

If so, what do you expect to happen?
At what point did she enter the area cordoned off?
And why was her residency blocked from residents?
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« Reply #13176 on: June 12, 2025, 12:03:23 PM »
If you read the LA Times article, it does not get into the particulars about which you ask.

It simply states the woman entered an area that had been cordoned off by police.

Hence, my question to you.

Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?
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« Reply #13177 on: June 12, 2025, 12:42:32 PM »
If you read the LA Times article, it does not get into the particulars about which you ask.

It simply states the woman entered an area that had been cordoned off by police.

Hence, my question to you.

Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?

So you didn't watch the video, or you'd know that she did not cross the police line.  She was a good 10-20 feet away from the line.

So unless cops have a habit of blocking off areas they stand several feet inside to stop people from entering... There was no reason for their reaction.
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« Reply #13178 on: June 12, 2025, 02:26:42 PM »
Actually they were once friends, but Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a pedophile.
Why would he have done that? Trump loves that sort of thing

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Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html#

Trump has openly boasted about doing this and sexually assaulting women. He has been adjudicated as a rapist.

The lengths you have to go to in order to defend him are increasingly desperate

This is clearly incorrect. When the famous billionaire owner is coming from out of town and appears in front of the building with his limo, obviously everyone will know about it. The chaperones told them ahead of time when a visitor was coming. A participant of the 1997 Miss Teen USA event you referenced says that you are promoting lies:

https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2016/10/13/trump-backstage-activity-in-97-exaggerated-says-former-miss-teen-nm/

    A former Miss Teen New Mexico contestant that year confirmed that Trump made his way backstage at the Miss Teen USA pageant, but told NM Political Report that some reports of his actions have been exaggerated.

    Victoria Hughes, Miss Teen New Mexico in 1997, said she remembers chaperones “saying that we had a visitor and to get covered up,” but stopped short of accusing Trump of inappropriate behavior.

    “While I do not support Donald Trump, stories about him barging in on teenage girls is not correct,” Hughes wrote in an email to NM Political Report. “Our chaperones would never have allowed that to happen, and no one, not even Donald, deserves to be lied about in this way.”

It appears to me that you are repeating liberal falsities.
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« Reply #13179 on: June 12, 2025, 02:56:17 PM »
Would you, like the woman, enter an area cordoned off by police?

If yes, what would you expect to happen?

Did you not even read the headlines?  She was trying to get home.  It was even in the url.
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