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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 25, 2021, 07:43:39 AM »
Actually, the timeline I gave on the fraud route was that fraud might take years to litigate:
The FBI investigated Bernie Maddoff for six years for his Ponzi Scheme:
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/business/bernie-madoff-fbi-patrick-duffy-paul-roberts-fbi-20181206.html
Tax investigations:
https://www.sambrotman.com/blog/an-overview-of-criminal-tax-matters
Obviously it would take a while to investigate fraud.
A rule violation, maybe a short amount of time. Fraud, no.
QuoteThe simple fact is Trump failed to prove fraud in court, either by losing cases or by not bringing them in the first place. Doesn't matter which, the end result is the same.
Actually, it does matter. You guys have been continuously citing these cases as proof that there was no voter fraud. The cases were not about voter fraud, so your evidence is really nothing at all.
The cases weren't brought because they are technically complex and might take years to litigate, and due to the time sensitive nature it is easy to see why lawyers would want to focus on things like whether a rule change was legal. Such a tactic would have nothing to do with the veracity of voter fraud.
The FBI investigated Bernie Maddoff for six years for his Ponzi Scheme:
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/business/bernie-madoff-fbi-patrick-duffy-paul-roberts-fbi-20181206.html
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He and Special Agent Paul E. Roberts, who trained as an actuary, present regularly to business and fraud investigator conferences about the FBI's six-year-long Madoff investigation.
Tax investigations:
https://www.sambrotman.com/blog/an-overview-of-criminal-tax-matters
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As a result, criminal investigations can take years. There is a lot of fact-finding. There is a lot of collecting information. There are a lot of witness interviews. There are a lot of third parties. The CIs are really trying to build as much of a case as possible so that they can get to the point where once you're caught, you’re caught.
Obviously it would take a while to investigate fraud.
A rule violation, maybe a short amount of time. Fraud, no.