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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where is Google Maps wrong?
« on: January 01, 2022, 02:11:15 AM »
There isn't actually any reliable way to measure the distance between two distant points. Planes and ships are liable to be behind or ahead, and pilots strategically use jet streams to reach distant points. Most of the long distance flights typically pointed out wouldn't be possible without jet streams. The pilots travel between the coordinate points. And the coordinate points are based on the position of Polaris or time zones.

The only reliable distance measurement method is an odometer, and people haven't measured large portions of the earth with it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 30, 2021, 10:21:54 PM »
Quote from: Hillary
"To hold the house and the senate in 2022 and to win the electoral college because also republicans are doing everything they can to create an environment in which winning the electoral college even narrowly the way joe biden did will be out of reach for a democrat so I understand why people want to argue for their priorities that's what they believe they were elected to do but at the end of the day nothing is going to get done if you don't have a democratic majority in the house in the senate and our majority comes from .people who win.

So look I'm all about um having vigorous debate i think it's it's good and it gives people a chance to be part of the process but at the end of the day it means nothing if we don't have a congress that will get things done and we don't have a white house that we can count on to be sane and sober and stable and productive so this is going to be a very intense period not just for the democratic party but for the country."

Where do you see the Whitehouse after losing 2024 mentioned in that quote? You are clearly wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 30, 2021, 09:04:34 PM »

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Weather forecasts
« on: December 30, 2021, 08:24:14 PM »
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I'm sure some aspects of weather we will never be able to accurately predict. But other aspects, like hurricanes, etc., have advanced quite well. And probably have saved many lives.

I doubt that there has been much advancement. Here is an article from 2016:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201108135932/http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/magazine/why-isnt-the-us-better-at-predicting-extreme-weather.html

    At 11 o’clock on the night of Sept. 29, the National Hurricane Center in Miami posted an updated prediction for Hurricane Matthew. Using the latest data from a reconnaissance aircraft, the center’s computerized models led meteorologists there to conclude, in a post on the center’s website, that “only a slight strengthening is forecast during the next 12 to 24 hours.” Their prediction proved to be astonishingly amiss: The following day, Matthew exploded from a Category 1 into a Category 5 hurricane, with winds gusting to 160 miles per hour, strong enough to flatten even the sturdiest homes.

    This was hardly the first time that United States government forecasters significantly underestimated a storm’s potential. Last year, 24 hours before Patricia reached Mexico’s Pacific Coast, it unexpectedly mushroomed from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane, its winds topping 215 miles per hour. Luckily, Patricia — officially the strongest hurricane on record in the Western Hemisphere — made landfall over a sparsely populated region. Matthew behaved similarly, its intensification also unforeseen and sudden, occurring just two days before it overwhelmed Haiti. Residents there had little time to flee, and the death toll exceeded 1,000. (More than 30 died in the United States.) The failure to make timely, accurate predictions about these storms would have had far deadlier consequences had they made landfall near a major metropolitan area. In South Florida, for example — where the initial forecasts for a storm of modest size would not have prompted hurricane-weary residents to evacuate — Matthew’s rapid increase in power could have pinned down more than six million people in the region.

Multiple hurricanes have behaved unpredictably, have caused loss of life, and could have caused massive loss of life.

    These are the sorts of deficiencies that can prompt forecasters to underestimate the severity of a hurricane, for instance — or overhype an end-of-the-world blizzard, like the one Gary Szatkowski anticipated on the last Sunday in January 2015. Szatkowski, now retired but then the head meteorologist for the National Weather Service office in Mount Holly, N.J., predicted that a cold front creeping westward toward the East Coast would evolve into an unprecedented nor’easter. The Weather Service issued an official warning: A “crippling and potentially historic blizzard” with “life-threatening conditions” and up to three feet of snow was coming.

    Ten inches of snow fell. By late Monday night, Szatkowski, whose office forecasts the weather for more than 11 million people, accepted that he had made a huge blunder and said in two tweets: “My deepest apologies to many key decision makers and so many members of the general public. You made a lot of tough decisions expecting us to get it right, and we didn’t.”

    ~

    One sunny spring morning last year, I sat in on an undergraduate course at the University of Washington called Weather Prediction and Advanced Synoptic Analysis. Mass, doe-eyed and gangly, with finger-thick eyebrows and a pronounced aquiline nose, arrived for the hourlong lecture perspiring heavily. “I just squeezed in a run,” he told the class, apologetically. On an overhead projector, he showed some past National Weather Service predictions; about one-third of them were wrong.

One third of the models are wrong.

    Even though Lapenta got his new supercomputers in January, most of the system remains idle. “It’s extraordinary,” Mass says. “They are only using a small portion of it.” He also notes that the upgrades still aren’t enough to run high-resolution ensembles effectively. Lapenta, however, remains optimistic; he’s involved with NOAA’s Next Generation Global Prediction Initiative, and he formed an advisory committee to evaluate the National Weather Service’s numerous models and come up with a plan to build better ones. He invited Mass to join the 14-member team, which met for the first time in the summer of 2015.

    “I came away very sobered,” Mass says. “It’s a real mess. They are running way too many models.” At last count, the centers managed at least a dozen models, some in development, others already operating. None work very well. (They recently spent eight years and more than $100 million trying to fix their main hurricane-forecasting model. But it still performs so poorly that meteorologists inside the agency want to scrap it altogether.)

    ~

    In the summer of 2015, Mass visited Boulder to give a presentation at a conference on weather modeling. His 12-minute talk focused on the poor performance of regional models, which typically bring higher resolution to smaller geographical areas, and should, as a result, be better at predicting localized events, like flash floods and hurricanes. But they’re not — a fact Mass demonstrated with PowerPoint slides of statistics. He concluded his presentation with a photo of a man doing a face palm, above which he had typed, “Em-bar-rass-ment: the shame you feel when your inadequacy or guilt is made public.” The audience of 200 groaned.

Weather prediction is most accurately depicted by a man doing a face palm.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Weather forecasts
« on: December 30, 2021, 07:36:03 PM »
A better example might be something that is not 35 years old. I'm imagining that we've made some technological advances in the past 3 1/2 decades.

Actually the 1989 NOVA documentary I posted said that weather prediction would never significantly improve.

    18:33
    Lorenz was quite correct. We can never
    know the initial conditions accurately
    enough to prevent some tiny unnoticed
    error - even the flapping wings of a
    butterfly - amplifying itself and
    destroying our predictions. That's why we
    never will dramatically improve our
    weather forecasting. Lorenz actually
    calls it the butterfly effect.

1726
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 30, 2021, 04:10:38 PM »
It is more as if I went to an actual lawyer for a legal opinion and you keep shouting that your cousin knows legal stuff and he could do the same or better as someone with a Juris Doctorate and that the lawyer is a quack.

Just... no.

In the video this lawyer states that he makes a living from suing pharmaceutical companies. It's not just any lawyer, it's a specialist to the niche field. That puts him far above any non-lawyer who doesn't know the intricacies of the law. You may as well be claiming that a homeless person is your source, as you don't have anything comparable.

This is just like the time you claimed that a comedian without credentials was a better authority on economic and mathematical questions than someone with a PhD in those fields.  ::)

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 30, 2021, 05:36:11 AM »
Lawyers say lots of things. So you found a lawyer that disagrees with the Washington Post assessment. So what?

The person who wrote the article you posted is not a lawyer. The source I presented is a lawyer. You are one lawyer short of answering a legal question.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: December 30, 2021, 02:08:52 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 30, 2021, 12:38:41 AM »
The issue is that the two products are "legally distinct", as indicated in the article.

EUA drugs and vaccines are given a special status that prevents lawsuits. You can't sue if an EUA drug or vaccine injures or harms you, but you have more legal standing to sue if an approved drug or vaccine injures or harms you. This is why they are playing games and not releasing the FDA approved version.

Apparently you are incorrect:

The false claim that the fully-approved Pfizer vaccine lacks liability protection

“The statement that the products are ‘legally distinct with certain differences’ refers to the differences in manufacturing information included in the respective regulatory submissions,” said Pfizer spokesperson Sharon J. Castillo in an email. “Specifically, while the products are manufactured using the same processes, they may have been manufactured at different sites or using raw materials from different approved suppliers. FDA closely reviews all manufacturing steps, and has found explicitly that the EUA and BLA [biologics license application] products are equivalent.”

“The liability protections afforded under the PREP Act are tied to the declared public health emergency and not whether the vaccine is sold under an EUA,” Castillo said. “Therefore, both Comirnaty and the Pfizer-BioNTech covid-19 vaccine receive the same liability protections as medical countermeasures against covid-19.


A lawyer says that you are wrong about this and that EUA vaccines do come with special benefits.


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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Weather forecasts
« on: December 29, 2021, 05:09:21 PM »
Tom - declaring that forecasting the weather has always been a scam is taking conspiratorial theory thinking to a whole new level. Besides pulling down YouTube videos, do you have any direct evidence and facts that support your conspiracy theory that predicting weather is a scam? Are Meteorologists now all liars and scammers that work in a coordinated fashion with each another on a daily basis to create fictitious weather predictions?

No, they aren't fictitious. They just aren't very good. The scam came in when society convinced you that we were a super-advanced civilization who could model gravity and the weather. We are not and can not. This is all described in the NOVA documentary I embedded above.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Weather forecasts
« on: December 29, 2021, 02:33:50 PM »
Weather prediction has always been a scam, right up there with gravitational physics. If they can't predict three bodies what makes you think they can predict a quintillion bodies? Here is a documentary about how anything beyond the simplest Newtonian equations is unpredictable:



Three Body Problem is discussed at 9:40
Weather is discussed at 13:20

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 29, 2021, 05:45:07 AM »
Or, possibly,  Biden simply said what he meant and it wasn't some kind of thing he said one thing and meant the opposite.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 29, 2021, 03:35:36 AM »
CNN correctly interprets Biden's remarks to admit that there is no federal solution to Covid.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 29, 2021, 03:11:26 AM »
Actually ballot harvesting is illegal in many areas.

Sometimes. But if it is then who cares? As long as they're citizens of voting age then I don't see a problem.

Being illegal in many areas seems like a problem to me.

You're in favor of making voting selectively illegal?

I am merely pointing out that Dr. Paul is describing something that many localities have deemed to be immoral and have declared illegal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 28, 2021, 11:23:58 PM »
Actually ballot harvesting is illegal in many areas.

Sometimes. But if it is then who cares? As long as they're citizens of voting age then I don't see a problem.

Being illegal in many areas seems like a problem to me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: December 28, 2021, 08:55:26 PM »
Actually ballot harvesting is illegal in many areas.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 28, 2021, 04:57:16 PM »
Looks like Biden surrendered to the Coronavirus.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: December 25, 2021, 07:23:35 PM »
Hey look, the leftists claiming that the blank inserts was unrepresentative of most pharmacies were completely wrong. J&J is also distributing blank package inserts. A pharmacy technician opens a sealed box on camera.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/veREM17I9j16/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: December 24, 2021, 09:20:58 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: December 24, 2021, 08:57:47 PM »

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