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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: June 28, 2022, 07:52:44 PM »

Hell yeah, can't wait for ectopic pregnancies to be a death sentence in the USofA.

That seems pretty unlikely.
The trouble with this debate is that both sides can't help themselves taking it to extremes.
If you're pro-life then the other side claim you're intent on enslaving and killing women.
If you're pro-choice then the other side claim you enjoy murdering babies for the lolz.

There's a lot of complexity and nuance here which too many people on both sides don't acknowledge.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon landing hoax question

« on: June 27, 2022, 02:58:09 PM »

From what I've been told and studied intensively, a sane person can only draw one conclusion, we were spoon fed deceptive analysis of events that could not and did not happen. Links and videos are abundant internet wide.

There are numerous third-party confirmations of the lunar landings. Do you have any convincing rebuttal to them? They're listed on Wikipedia;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

I have mentioned Jodrell Bank in the UK who were monitoring both Apollo 11 and USSR craft.
And the Australians who were relaying messages from the moon. Never seen much of a sensible response.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 27, 2022, 10:33:01 AM »

It is not a direct democracy where the majority can do anything they please. Representatives vote on laws and in elections, not the people directly.

And how's that working out for you?
I don't think any countries have a direct democracy. We have representative democracy here but we have a particularly poor version of it where we are always governed by a government which the minority of people voted for. I think representative democracy is the least bad way of making laws but our version of it needs a lot of improvement.

I wouldn't (edited - I originally put would, incorrectly) advocate direct democracy, partly because people are by and large idiots but also because you can't ask "the people" about every piddling thing. But even when we do have occasional referendums on bigger issues - I think the majority got it wrong on Brexit but I don't feel I've been discriminated against. The majority got what they wanted for good or ill.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 27, 2022, 08:20:43 AM »

To expand on my reply to Tom. I'm a Remainer, I didn't want to Brexit. But the majority voted that way and while I think it was an idiotic decision I haven't been "discriminated against" because Brexit happen. That's democracy, not discrimination.

You would be mistaken then. Democracy is clearly a form of discrimination against the minority. You were just conditioned to accept it.

Literally quoted the definition above:

Discrimination can mean "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."
But the definition which most people understand is "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, sex, or disability."

I've not been discriminated against because we have left the EU. We had a vote, my side lost. I'm still waiting to see what the other side won, but regardless I haven't been discriminated against

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Space image Magnification through Atmospheric Lensing

« on: June 27, 2022, 07:35:36 AM »

I see Polaris every night out my window the same spot no matter the time,

As you would expect in the globe earth model.
What’s your point, caller?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 27, 2022, 07:25:47 AM »

So you think it's ok to deny someone a service or product or job based upon their gender, color, or sexual orientation?

Why not?

Because it's bad for business to exclude a lot of potential customers for irrelevant reasons.

But that's the business owner's problem. If they only want to serve a certain demographic - and therefore exclude certain others - then isn't that literally their business? That's the argument. If they go out of business as a result then more fool them. But, overall, I don't think allowing segregation is a positive thing.

EDIT: And I think there's a difference between a baker refusing to serve a couple because they're gay, and refusing to serve a couple because they're asking for a pro gay marriage to be printed on a cake, if the business owner doesn't believe that. Tell you what, if someone had ordered an anti-gay marriage cake and the baker had refused then they'd have been hailed as heroes.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 26, 2022, 08:17:03 PM »

You should be free to associate and do business with the reciprocated consent of others, whenever you want, wherever you want.

Pretty simple.

OK. So if I'm racist and I decide I want to open a restaurant and only serve whites then I should be able to.
And if that means I go out of business because white people boycott in solidarity then that's my problem.
I mean, I can kinda see an argument there but a fairly likely outcome is my restaurant would attract racists. And my hot take on racism is that it is, by and large, a bad thing. So I'm not sure it's something one should encourage.
I do think there's an argument that someone shouldn't be compelled to do things against their principles. So the infamous case of the baker taken to court for refusing to make a cake supporting gay marriage. I'm on the baker's side there. They weren't refusing to serve the couple because they were gay, they were refusing to print a message which went against their principles.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 26, 2022, 07:50:22 PM »

There is nothing wrong with discrimination.

Care to elaborate?

On what?

On the bit I quoted...
Discrimination can mean "recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another."
But the definition which most people understand is "the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, sex, or disability."

How is there "nothing wrong" with that?
To expand on my reply to Tom. I'm a Remainer, I didn't want to Brexit. But the majority voted that way and while I think it was an idiotic decision I haven't been "discriminated against" because Brexit happen. That's democracy, not discrimination.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 26, 2022, 06:36:00 PM »

Every stance, law, political position, or opinion, is discriminating against someone who may feel differently about it.

I’m not really sure that’s what discrimination means.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Texas GOP

« on: June 26, 2022, 08:30:11 AM »

There is nothing wrong with discrimination.

Care to elaborate?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: June 24, 2022, 05:46:23 PM »

It’s good to see how much Americans care about their children.

Well…until they are born, go to school and get mown down in a mass shooting, or grow up and turn out gay or trans.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: June 24, 2022, 02:46:19 PM »

Yep.
A bunch of women just became murderers.

They already were #Rushy

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion

« on: June 24, 2022, 02:30:16 PM »

Welp

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61928898

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson

« on: June 24, 2022, 02:02:06 PM »

A purely vertical line has infinite slope.

Incorrect. It's undefined.

https://tutorme.com/blog/post/what-is-the-slope-of-a-vertical-line/

Because you can't divide by 0.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: June 24, 2022, 12:09:54 PM »

Holy NRA, Batman!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: June 24, 2022, 09:26:08 AM »

The official position is that it is impossible to know.

Yeah. Just like it's impossible to know the long term effects of Covid. It is, by definition, impossible to know the long term effects of a new thing. Because of how time works.
But I note you accidentally forgot to highlight a different part of the paragraph you quoted:



You're acting like it's a complete roll of the dice, when the reality is every activity in life involves risk.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson

« on: June 24, 2022, 08:16:47 AM »

There is a point in time when things are no longer able to be measured.

It is then you label that point as infinite.

No there isn't. There isn't a point.
Numbers don't just run out. It doesn't go 1 - 2 - 3 .... 999,999 - 1,000,000 ... oh we've run out of numbers...infinity!

Infinity is a concept. Infinity - 1 is still infinity. Infinity divided by 2 is still infinity. There are as many even numbers as there are numbers.
Infinity is counter-intuitive and there is no "point" at which the finite becomes infinite.

Infinite simply means "not finite". Y'know, like incompetent or incapable...

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson

« on: June 23, 2022, 09:48:34 PM »

Adjacent most certainly does not mean "opposites."

It means next to each other.

Correct.
Adjacent means “next to each other”.
But finite and infinite are not next to each other, they are opposites. Hence the prefix “in”, which means “not”. See?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Assessing "Kings Dethroned" by Gerrard Hickson

« on: June 23, 2022, 12:58:12 PM »

They are adjacent.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
They're opposites.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« on: June 22, 2022, 07:45:55 AM »

Actually I cited a doctor.

Yep. Of the million medical doctors in the US you found one who says something which fits your agenda.
You can keep ignoring this if you like but is your doctor's view the prevailing one? If it isn't then you're just cherry picking. Again.

I have pointed this out a bunch of times. You have two go to dishonest tactics:
1) Appeal to authority if the authority says something which fits your agenda, reject any authority which does not. So you reject all scientific authority
2) Cherry pick an authority who is an outlier and ignore the prevailing view.

In a community of a million people you're pretty much guaranteed to find someone who says things which fit your agenda. To just cite them as an authority and dismiss the near consensus is dishonest.

And of course the long term effects of something new is unknown, by definition. What's the long term effect of Covid 19? It's unknown. Because of the 19 part.