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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 19, 2022, 06:45:34 AM »
I don't think that version of it will happen, no.

Even if the VAERS deaths were entirely accidental and not deliberate, I doubt they would care, so long as Pfizer can push more vaccines, Amazon can ship more boxes, and they can continue the mass mail-in-voting.  If you get injured it's still your own folly for taking it, and its still a test against you, deliberate or not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 11:22:11 PM »
I'm not doing anything to prepare.

If the world elites really wanted to put their resources into making us dead they could simply put the poison into existing drugs without our knowledge, into our food, into the water, or perhaps the air, and manipulate the governments to ignore it. It could all be done in a less visible and more underhanded way. It is possible that they are doing this as well; but I tend to believe that our rulers are cruel, yet benevolent, and make it possible for you to choose your own fate. If you want to smoke cigarettes, the information is available to you and you are allowed know the risks to the best of humanity's ability to determine it. That is your choice to make.

Clearly, in a cull, you don't kill everything, and want the best to survive. If this is some sort of cull, Covid vaccination is a test of intelligence, to which people may escape the propaganda and media hype by simply not taking the vaccines. While there is some social media censoring on a private level, there is no governmental legal effort going into eliminating the voice or research of the vaccine critics, even though not all countries have strong freedom of speech laws. The information is out there and circulating, available for people to decide for themselves. The situation is that you knew it was rushed and experimental, you knew there might be risk and that it involved novel genetic manipulation methods, but you did it anyway based on hype and fear mongering, so any injury you get is your own fault by design.

The Covid vaccines will never be truly mandated and enforced by the government, as they are doing it through illegal decree, and will always get swatted down by the court systems at the last moment. They could do it the proper legal way through the legal process if they wanted to but it's generally not attempted. In the US the Whitehouse is pushing vaccination by executive decree, while Congress is not making much effort to do it via law (on purpose, IMO).

Per breakdown of the economy, society is set up in a way in which it is too big to fail, so it won't. The central banks will always step in to bail out the banks, erase debt, radically transform the conceptual nature of currency if necessary, as they already have done to the dollar over the years. The existence of the police and the military and intelligence agencies prevents the possibility of any real violent revolution; making it unlikely to be attempted. People don't rebel against their government unless they feel that they have no other choice, and so the government will try to keep it hot but not boiling.

The vaccine deaths and vaccine enforcement and pressure will, therefore, be kept to a level people can accept but not rebel over. They may also be trying to distract you with high inflation; to pacify your attention towards improving your monetary situation instead of thinking too much about the government's tyranny. Probably not a coincidence. Duplicitous governments tend to trick, distract, and finally adapt to an allowable level to please the populous once it has pushed things to the limit, preventing mass conflict. In the end we may be conditioned into accepting the vaccines and vaccine deaths as an acceptable part of our lives, like we accept smoking and the many smoking deaths. No happy ending. No mass rebellion. They are simply too smart to allow rebellion to happen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Great Reset: Aftermath
« on: January 18, 2022, 06:14:33 PM »
This link is interesting - Analysis: 100% of Deaths Following COVID-19 Shots are From Only 5% of the Manufacturer Lots According to VAERS

The claims are apparently reproducible with VAERS data. The article indicates that the affected batches were split up and sent to all US states. If true, it brings up further questions.

If it were a matter of "bad batches" there should certainly be a public effort to warn people who have taken those batches, recall the batches, etc.

If it were potentially an effort at population control concocted by evil billionaires it would presumably be a way to keep the injury count low enough so that people accept the vaccine without serious alarm, and eventually become injured over time as they receive their 15th booster shot dose.

There has been an effort to treat the vaccine like recharging your phone, encouraging the public to inject themselves over and over:


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: January 18, 2022, 05:09:30 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 17, 2022, 06:00:27 PM »
UK clinic tells woman not to take any more vaccines, claims that new safety data spells bad news.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 16, 2022, 02:37:32 PM »
Actually if you watch the video I linked earlier Trump appears to agree with the host that there are risks with the vaccine, which is why he states young and healthy people should not take it.
Of course there are.
But only in the same way that there are risks taking aspirin, or virtually any medicine.
There are risks in driving.
Or crossing the street.
There is virtually no risk free activity in life.

Aside from driving, depending on age, none of those are things young and healthy people shouldn't do.

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The ICU doctor I spoke to last summer

Considering that this is perhaps the fifth time you brought up your conversation with an ICU doctor you once had as your source of knowledge we can safely dismiss you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 16, 2022, 01:50:34 PM »
The Queen and Royal Family has apparently already judged him. That's good enough for me.
Judged him by not removing his Dukedom, not removing his HRH status, not removing his Vice Admiral Position in the Navy and judged him by allowing him to continue to live at The Royal Lodge in Great Windsor Park for free? All he has lost is the ability to call himself Lord of the Sea Scouts and a bunch of charity obligations. Sounds like a not guilty verdict to me.

This only tells me that the Queen thinks a prince's abuse of underaged girls is deserving of a revocation of military titles but not of Dukedom.

The Queen herself is an authority above the highest law in the land -

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/is-the-queen-really-above-the-law-1625/

From their homepage;

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"Royal Central is the most popular independent source for royal news on the web. Launched back in 2012 in the wake of the Diamond Jubilee, Royal Central originally began life on Twitter under the account name @RoyalFactsUK – an account dedicated to tweeting facts about Monarchies around the world.

Independent != False

She's literally the monarch, the highest authority of Britain.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 14, 2022, 06:37:38 PM »
We don't have a Prince Andrew thread, so here it is. The latest news appears to be that Prince Andrew has disgraced his family, his country, and and has been stripped of his military titles and patronages over the debacle.

Do you think anyone similarly accused of participating in the Epstein debacle should also be considered to have brought disgrace upon their country, family, et al ... ?

The Queen and Royal Family has apparently already judged him. That's good enough for me.

The Queen herself is an authority above the highest law in the land -

https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/insight/is-the-queen-really-above-the-law-1625/

    "To make it absolutely clear: The Queen (or the reigning Monarch) is above the law. It has been like this for centuries and remains true and practicable today."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 14, 2022, 03:59:37 AM »
We don't have a Prince Andrew thread, so here it is. The latest news appears to be that Prince Andrew has disgraced his family, his country, and and has been stripped of his military titles and patronages over the debacle.

New York Times - Prince Andrew Is Stripped of Military Titles as Sexual Abuse Case Proceeds

    LONDON — Prince Andrew, the second son of Queen Elizabeth II, has been forced to relinquish his military titles and royal charities, Buckingham Palace said on Thursday, a stinging rebuke by the British royal family a day after a federal judge in New York allowed a sexual abuse case against him to go ahead.

    The palace said that Andrew, 61, who has been accused by Virginia Giuffre of raping her while she was a teenager, would also no longer use the title “His Royal Highness,” a prized symbol of his status as a senior member of the royal family. In a terse statement, the palace said that Andrew would “continue not to undertake any public duties” and that he “is defending this case as a private citizen.”

    Andrew, who is also known as the Duke of York, has denied Ms. Giuffre’s allegations, which date from a period in which he was friendly with the financier and convicted sex predator Jeffrey Epstein. The duke’s lawyers tried to get her lawsuit dismissed, but the judge, Lewis A. Kaplan, ruled against him on Wednesday.

    The decision by Buckingham Palace completes a stunning fall from grace for a man who was once one of the royal family’s most popular members — a dashing war hero and eligible bachelor — but who has since become a disgraced figure, left to explain why he associated with a convicted criminal like Mr. Epstein.

    The announcement by Buckingham Palace came after extensive discussions within the royal family, according to people with ties to the palace. It was designed to head off an effort by Andrew to rehabilitate himself, according to one person. The language in Buckingham Palace’s statement, officials said, was meant to underscore the permanence of the sanction against him.

    Andrew had been largely banished from public life since November 2019, when he gave a disastrous interview to the BBC in which he insisted he had never met Ms. Giuffre and made several bizarre claims to deflect her charges, among them that he was medically incapable of sweating, as she had asserted.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 14, 2022, 02:44:04 AM »
Wow, you’re pretty scared to say what you think. Cool story.

I think that Covid is essentially just the flu, and that there are other ways to deal with the flu that makes the vaccine unnecessary. But the vaccine=irredeemable isn't really the anti-vax stance.

Dr. Robert Malone is a well known vaccine critic and a leading figure in the movement, and he recommends the vaccine for people over 65 with comorbidities. See the previous video @ 0:25:


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 10:09:17 PM »
I dont care that Trump says some things in favor of the vaccine.
Why not?
You keep posting about how experimental it is, how dangerous it could be, how ineffective it is. And here’s Trump saying the vaccine is safe and effective and recommending people have it. Isn’t that dangerous advice? Or are you wrong?

Actually if you watch the video I linked earlier Trump appears to agree with the host that there are risks with the vaccine, which is why he states young and healthy people should not take it. It is incorrect that Trump thinks its entirely safe.

Ultimately it's down to you if you think that the risks outweigh the benefits.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 02:09:01 PM »
I dont care that Trump says some things in favor of the vaccine. You seem to think that I care about what you do with your body and what free choices you make.

If I had to decide, however, I would suggest that you should take it too, and to keep getting the boosters. If it provides any benefit in immunity it will lower the risk of me getting covid, and also shoulders all of the health risks of the vaccine on to you.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 01:57:48 PM »
No one has disagreed with this

That's not the message by the leftist media. According to the leftist media:

- We MUST be vaccinated
- Everyone needs to be vaccinated, even the young and healthy
- Get vaccinated or get fired.
- Get vaccinated or you cant do x
- Vaccinate the children too; vaccines now available to eight year olds

Many have professed agreement with much of that here. People have had themselves vaccinated even though they were not at risk and have also gotten their pregnant girlfriends vaccinated. You may have a slightly different stance, but the mainstream message being put out  is quite different to what Trump is saying.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 01:36:34 PM »
Trump says to go get your shot [if you choose and decide to do so] [and dont do it if you're young and healthy]

The disclaimers there almost entirely nullifies the leftist message. Now we need to consider if we want to or if we're at risk. Trump may be recommending the vaccine, but not to everyone, and certainly doesn't want it mandated. It should be your choice if you want to take it or not, and if you think that you are in the risk category. The disclaimers makes
 the message into something many people on the right have been saying all along.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 12:58:43 PM »
The idea that vaccine mandates are reprehensible and young and healthy people should not take the vaccine is  a position held more on the right than the left. If you aren't communicating that this is what Trump believes when repeating his vaccine support you are stating a lie for your political ends.

Many people on the right did get their older and unhealthy people vaccinated. They do think that it would provide benefit for them, and see the vaccine as saving millions of lives for certain catagories.The idea that the vaccine may be appropriate for some people is fairly common on the right, although I feel that even that moderate approach on the right is misplaced as well.

So my position at the moment is more to see the leftists who repeat this as duplicitous fiends than to find severe fault with Trump for asserting what many on the right generally hold.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 13, 2022, 11:22:56 AM »
It is curious. I wonder if the Qanon's and normal ardent Trump supporters have disavowed DJT because of his super-pro vaccine stance. I mean, he is super-pro vaccine...as evidenced by his quotes...

Dear Republicans: Your favorite president wants you to get vaccinated

2021:

- February: 'Everybody, go get your shot”
- March: “I would recommend it to a lot of people that don’t want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly.”
- April: “The federal pause on the J&J shot makes no sense,” Trump said, adding: “Just six people out of the nearly 7 million who’ve gotten the Johnson & Johnson vaccine reported blood clots.”
- April: “I’m all in favor of the vaccine. It’s one of the great achievements, a true miracle, and not only for the United States. We’re saving tens of millions of lives throughout the world. We’re saving entire countries.”
- July: “I recommend you take it, but I also believe in your freedoms 100 percent.”
- August: “Now one thing: When you have the vaccine, people that do [get infected] — and it’s a very small number relatively, but people that do get it — get better much quicker,” Trump said. “And it’s very important to know. They don’t get nearly as sick, and they get better."
- August: “I recommend take the vaccines,” he said. “It’s good. I did it. Take the vaccines.”
- September: “The vaccines do work,” Trump said on a conservative talk-radio show. “And they are effective. So here’s my thing: I think I saved millions and millions of lives around the world.”

Not to mention, we all know he got the booster.

Here you are peddling inaccurate information again. Actually, he also said that he was against vaccine mandates:

> "Trump tells Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene he’s ‘100%’ AGAINST’ COVID-19 vaccine mandates"

He also said that young and healthy people should not get the vaccine:

> @1:33 "I don't think young healthy people should take it."

Those two compared and he almost sounds reasonable about it. A lot of people think that vaccine mandates are reprehensible and only people who need it should take it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 12, 2022, 03:55:10 PM »
Incorrect. You admitted yourself that the first fifteen minutes was introduction and background about himself and about his work.

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Wow, you'll go to any lame lengths to support your narrative. "10 or 15 minutes for introductions and background on the work, before the real questions start." Seriously? Intro was 60 seconds. He then talks about his experience inside China and outside, and returning and present day. His art, his philosophy, his book etc. The latter being the point of the interview. 60 seconds on Trump, referencing a quote in his book regarding Trump by name. Then for the remaining 10 minutes he talks about globalization, human rights and stuff like that.

When they got off the background stuff one of the first things they did was to ask him to expand on Trump and his authoritarianism. That is what they wanted to talk about after going over his background, and even had graphic prepared with a quote from his book that seemed to suggest that Trump was an authoritarian.

Actually, there were questions about how his words about china are dangerous and how he feels about that. His thoughts on freedom of speech and such prior to the Trump question. And if you think that's "background" then I guess the question about Trump that came later was background too.

His book was largely about China and not about Trump. It's not a book about Trump. Your assertion that discussion about Chinese authoritarianism is not about the background of his work falls flat.

Look at these ludicrous excuses you continue to generate. It is pretty pathetic that you cant come up with one excuse and need a continuous series of them. First it's because of this, then it's because of that, then another thing. Face plant fail.

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First you claim that camera lenses are equivalent to astronomical telescopes, and have now discarded that argument in favor of a claim that camera lenses are telescopes. Sometimes the best thing to do is to just stop posting.

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And so what? It's even more proof that you can use an EQ mount, if properly polar aligned, and with a $10,000 EQ mount with hyper precision motors and gears, way more precise (and expensive) than the models you reference, you can get some 4+ hours duration - Look at Rigel in the video, stays in frame the whole time. No software is going to pull something out of frame back into frame.

You keep repeating yourself. It could have just wobbled back and fourth, or he could have repeated it a number of times, adjusting the mechanisms until he got what he wanted to keep everything within a reasonable frame.

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What part of the phrase in bold, "is left to track on its own and is unguided." do you not understand? What does, left to track on its own mean to you?

Software manipulation? How do you think any timelapse is made, whether based on video or photography?

I left my camera to create an exposed shot to capture on its own; that doesn't mean that I didn't try it a bunch of times, that I didn't go to great lengths to create artificially good conditions, or that I didn't put it through extensive editing to unnaturally make what I wanted.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 11, 2022, 06:54:59 AM »
Incorrect. You admitted yourself that the first fifteen minutes was introduction and background about himself and about his work.

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Wow, you'll go to any lame lengths to support your narrative. "10 or 15 minutes for introductions and background on the work, before the real questions start." Seriously? Intro was 60 seconds. He then talks about his experience inside China and outside, and returning and present day. His art, his philosophy, his book etc. The latter being the point of the interview. 60 seconds on Trump, referencing a quote in his book regarding Trump by name. Then for the remaining 10 minutes he talks about globalization, human rights and stuff like that.

When they got off the background stuff one of the first things they did was to ask him to expand on Trump and his authoritarianism. That is what they wanted to talk about after going over his background, and even had graphic prepared with a quote from his book that seemed to suggest that Trump was an authoritarian.

Unfortunately, it was an immediate fail for them and they moved on from the topic.

It is pretty typical of your arguments that you need a dozen different excuses to explain something, like a child would argue. Notice that you are making up a continuous series of excuses of where the question was in the video, and how long they stayed on it, and that they really wanted to talk about other things, to avoid understanding that after the background segment they tried to set him up to talk about Trump being an authoritarian and it resulted in egg on their face.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 11, 2022, 06:05:41 AM »
It would have been good for PBS if he had ranted about Trump like they wanted him to. Unfortunately that narrative was not expressed and it was an embarrassing fail for them.

It's also pretty embarrassing how there are a range of excuses here ranging from the length it was discussed to where it was discussed in the video, to maybe the video was manipulated by a republican.

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