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Flat Earth Projects / Wiki Update Request - Southern Celestial Rotation

« on: January 05, 2021, 07:11:43 PM »

The https://wiki.tfes.org/Southern_Celestial_Rotation page has the following question and answer

Q. How can two people on opposite sides of the earth in Australia and South America both see the same South Pole Stars simultaneously?
A. Since those areas are many hours apart from each other, when it is night or dusk for one area it is likely day or dawn for the other. It is questioned whether it is the case that those observers see the same stars simultaneously. Due to the time difference it may be that they see the stars alternately.

Can we discuss a better answer?  During the weeks surrounding the solstice in December this answer is true and works great, but in June the hours of darkness on the southern coast of Australia and South America are lengthened to the point that they do indeed have simultaneous viewing of the same stars.  I used https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/south-africa/cape-town to compare the nautical twilight hours in Cape Town, South Africa to Melbourne, Australia on June 14th, 2020 and there are over 3 hours of simultaneous night time viewing at those locations.

What would be a better answer to this question?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: space balloon test near the south pole?

« on: January 05, 2021, 04:35:07 PM »

reer, your post was labeled misleading because you said this...

... according to FEers, you cannot get to the South Pole. Nobody can scale the wall of ice that blocks access to people, caterpillar trucks and, yes, airplanes...

This statement is your personal commentary on flat earth theory and is not consistent with generally accepted FET. The wiki page you referred to in a later comment states the following.

To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall

To say "nobody can scale the wall" and attribute it to FEers, is misleading.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Time-lapse of SpaceX dragon capsule docking with ISS

« on: December 24, 2020, 08:29:37 PM »

I have been away for so long.  It's nice to see that nothing has changed.  Hyperfocus on technical tangents instead of answering real questions is still in fashion.

The video does not look like an animation or a model.  It looks real.  This is a SpaceX animation and it looks fake because of the perfect, smooth camera framing, and false lighting effects.  It lacks texture detail, etc.  The video posted by the OP is sped up, but it is real footage.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: A Question From a Round-Earther

« on: December 24, 2020, 07:45:19 PM »

If the earth really is rising up, then are celestial bodies like the sun, stars, moon etc also rising up?

Yes. They must be. The earth, sun, moon & stars are all affected by the universal  attractor so they all accelerate together.

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Flat Earth Community / Euler Spiral Map

« on: November 14, 2018, 08:45:38 PM »

We are always looking for a better map.  Take a look at this...

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: August 10, 2018, 03:58:17 PM »

We have solid state drives.  No magnets, no disks, no motors, no moving parts.  The computer I am typing this on uses SSD.  The whole computer actually has no moving parts.  Amazing.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Force of Gravity Real or Fake?

« on: August 08, 2018, 11:35:43 PM »

https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: August 04, 2018, 09:07:17 PM »

I watched the cupola segment again.
It doesn't look like a ball, it looks like a disc.
The vanishing point of the horizon will always look like a circle.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: August 04, 2018, 12:50:13 AM »

Let's assume UA is the reason this video works. Why, then, does the lady talk about playing a game of figuring out where on earth they are flying over? Doesn't this imply they are orbiting and going around the earth?

All objects outside of Earth’s UA shielding (ie the sun, the moon) fly over different parts of the Earth.  It does not imply that they are orbiting, it implies that they are flying over different parts of the Earth.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: RE believers - why are you here?

« on: August 03, 2018, 10:00:33 PM »

I'm here for a serious discussion to challenge the flat earth myth.
As an evidence-based scientist, many might disagree with me.

I totally get this from panicp.  With 14 posts I can see that this is true.  Keep up the good work panicp!

For me, having become aware that this was a thing, it was initially curiosity about how anyone could possibly believe this sort of thing. Found this place, followed some of the threads with interest/exasperation. In the end I signed up. I think there's a principle that things like this should not be left unchallenged.

Really?  I don't believe it. 1,145 posts!  How is it possible you're still here with an answer like this?  This answer is good for about 80 posts.  1,145 posts?  My friend, you've seen everything there is to see here 10 times over.  Why are you still here?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Is FET Dangerous?

« on: August 03, 2018, 08:32:04 PM »

Seems pretty dangerous for Mad Mike Hughes and his steam rocket.

Both RET and FET have produced people strapping themselves into rockets.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: satellite hoax

« on: August 03, 2018, 08:06:05 PM »

Here is a really cool video about the International Space Station.

There is another recent topic dedicated to discussing that video here.
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=10232.0

I have seen the space shuttle land at Edwards Airforce Base and tracked it at night with my naked eye as it approached the ISS.  Both were very cool opportunities.
I see no reason why man-made low earth objects can't exist in FET.   

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: It's not all about NASA

« on: August 01, 2018, 05:57:30 AM »

Would you care to elaborate on what "very reasons for existence" you believe that NASA fabricated?

From the wiki...

There is no Flat Earth Conspiracy. NASA is not hiding the shape of the earth from anyone. The purpose of NASA is not to 'hide the shape of the earth' or 'trick people into thinking it's round' or anything of the sort.

There is a Space Travel Conspiracy. The purpose of NASA is to fake the concept of space travel to further America's militaristic dominance of space. That was the purpose of NASA's creation from the very start: To put ICBMs and other weapons into space (or at least appear to). The motto "Scientific exploration of new frontiers for all mankind" was nothing more than a front.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: It's not all about NASA

« on: July 31, 2018, 03:32:51 AM »

NASA has never launched a rocket or built a space ship. It's a group of contractors.

Where's the "like" button?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: July 30, 2018, 05:40:19 PM »

I don't recall hearing about the idea of shielding UA before.

All I can find is:

The mass of the earth is thought to shield the objects atop it from the direct force of UA.

It is not surprising ICanScienceThat hasn't heard of it before.  The quote you gave from the wiki is the reference I know about. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Is FET Dangerous?

« on: July 27, 2018, 07:41:56 PM »

Anyway, being a scientist, I find it highly disturbing how silly believes can get and flat-earth has to be one of the top-runners. I don't particularly care if anyone believes in flat earth or not. But I do care when people are stubbornly convinced by nonsense, it is the worst thing you can possibly do. It only leads to misery and disaster, if you pick the wrong thing to be convinced by (luckily, flat-earth is harmless in that regard).

I agree with Sciratio's conclusion, but the views presented are too extreme. Being stubbornly convinced by nonsense is the worst thing you can possibly do?  Nope.  I can think of several things that are worse.  I'd say that presenting extreme values is probably right on par with stubborn nonsense.  Neither are the worst possible.
I do agree that a belief in a divergent earth shape is harmless.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: July 27, 2018, 06:19:11 PM »

...is this a serious hypothesis that I'm expected to pick holes in? Or perhaps this is just wild speculation...

I apologize for being over-sensitive and unclear.
I will try again.

Introduction:
The wiki introduces the concept of a force called universal acceleration which acts on the Earth, but not on objects on the surface.  This replaces the acceleration of our mass toward the Earth due to gravity with an acceleration of the Earth toward us.  The immediate effect is the same in both models.

There is an implicit question.  Why doesn't UA effect both the earth and me?  If it did, I would be weightless above the surface of the earth.
The wiki mentions two possibilities for this: shielding or exponential mass response to UA.

Personal Conjecture:
I like the shielding theory better, so...
If a small mass, for example a rocket, escaped the UA shielding provided by the earth, would it not follow that the UA force would have direct effect and accelerate the mass along with the earth producing the effect we see in the OP video.  What I am suggesting is that what is called low earth orbit could instead be stepping outside the UA shielding above a flat earth.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: July 27, 2018, 04:56:01 PM »

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to take this. Is this a joke, and I'm supposed to laugh along with you? Or is this a serious hypothesis that I'm expected to pick holes in? Or perhaps this is just wild speculation, and I just need to open my mind and imagine what it might be like?

You know that condescending attitude that you try not to have, but everyone tells you you keep doing it?
There it is.

Categorize this under personal conjecture.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: July 27, 2018, 03:32:50 PM »

The Earth is accelerated by UA.
We are shielded from UA and are therefore accelerated by the Earth pushing us along.
If it is possible to escape Earth's shielding, then a body would be accelerated by UA directly and would move synchronously with the Earth.

https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Incredible CGI / Parabolic Flight / Space Travel

« on: July 27, 2018, 02:42:42 PM »

3. Is there another possibility?

They have escaped the Earth's shielding from Universal Acceleration.