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As I read Tom's quote, I believe he is expressing that dark shapes on the moon may be, but are not necessarily, shadows caused by external light.I don't agree that the shadows must be caused by an external light source.I disagree. I Didn't see any shadows on a light bulb, textured light bulb, the sun, or on Bobby Shafto hand held self lit moon which are all self illuminating.
The definition of shadow "a dark area or shape produced by a body coming between rays of light and a surface."
If there was a street light at the end of your garden, you would be able to see it. If your garden is 10 miles away, you should be able to see that same street light with a telescope even though everything else around you is dark. We can see galaxies thousands of light years away with telescopes, so theoretically, we should be able to see the sun which according to FET is only about 3,000 miles vertical and would be several thousands miles away horizontally at night.The atmolayer is not transparent. It distorts and then obscures visibility over great distances.
what would it take to completely convince you that the Earth is a globe / flat, depending on your POV?An accurate flat-earth map on a flat piece of paper would convince me it's flat.
In essence, we should ask not if FET is dangerous, but rather if RET is dangerous. An ongoing lie can do so much more damage than the truth could ever hope to accomplish. How many innocents continue to believe sweet fictions like Neil Armstrong hobbling about on the moon after climbing out of a capsule made of tin foil? Surely these sweet lies are the real danger to our society, not any sort of danger surrounding FET itself.This is interesting because it's the same argument RE uses against FE. I disagree both ways.
Rejection of objective facts is all over our political spectrum now, and it's very dangerous. If we're willing to throw away facts and just believe whatever we want, the future is doomed.I agree with this. We should all avoid presenting false data as fact. The best of us are open minded enough to shift our beliefs to correct data when we recognize it, but not everyone can. I believe that enough of us do.
If the flat earth theory comes along with rejecting standard units of measurement, cartography, moon rotation, navigation, satellites, laws of physics, astronomy, trigonometry, flights etc then I would say yes.I don't see this happening with FE. The members of this forum use all these things in daily life and use them in discussions on this site. Even those who don't believe in satellites orbiting a round earth pull out their phones and follow the navigation prompts as they drive.
The dangers of FE essentially become most prevalent if it loses it's core, loses it's 'way' as it were. If it becomes less about learning and exploring things for yourself, and more about simply anti-establishment. Some fringes are starting to appear this way, but for the most part I believe it's still holding steady to that core ideal.I agree this is true about anything. Look for truth in another framework: good. Anti-establishment: bad.
Asking a question isn't dangerous - but making up answers, especially if those answers breed distrust of the scientific method, is dangerous. I don't have a problem with people making arguments in good faith, or even just-for-fun but based on real data. I have a problem with people deliberately lying.I like this. This sums it up to me for both sides. "I must not tell lies" -Harry Potter ootp
There's a growing anti-intellectual strain in this country. It may be the beginning of the end of our informed democracy. Ofcourse, in a free society, you can and should think what ever you want and if you want to think the world is flat, go right ahead. But if you think the world is flat and you have influence over others, then being wrong becomes being harmful to the health the wealth and the security of our citizenry.
We want to make sure, that the next person who joins the board to ask questions about their newly found belief, aren't misinformed. That the social presence of TFES doesn't lead young people to believe what TFES is actually claiming. To me, that's just as dangerous as religious indoctrination.
People might be coming here because they aren't sure, and then they see your facile arguments and they might start believing in nonsense. Believing in nonsense gets people killed.
I don't get it. Thork is the one who can't read graphs, and then flips the table in frustration, saying I can't read graphs. Am I missing something?
A p-wave shadow zone is not a pp-wave shadow zone.
I can't be a round earther on this forum. This thread shows why.
I pointed out that he literally overlaid the full moon onto the crescent moon. He is drawing lines from an image of the full moon to an image of the full moon, why are you attaching significance to the fact that they match? What is it you imagine he did?
Overlaying your full moon image over your crescent moon image, and making it transparent so you could see how the moon features align was supposed to help. Instead, you saw it as a trick. I'm not trying to fool you. I was trying to help.
Why are you acting as though this is evidence?!
You are identifying and connecting features that do not exist on the crescent, and are only visible because you overlaid the two. You could do the same to argue that the moon is Kermit the frog.
A question for the FES members: has anyone directly (i. e. via radar, laser or so) measured the speed (or distance) of the Sun, the Moon or any other celestial body? If not, why?
The numbers seem inflated on this poll,I agree. The numbers are inflated. I know zero flat earth believers among all my acquaintances.
I just don't meet FEers in real life, nobody seems interested in even discussing it.
I know one other person, that's it...
During the live stream leading up to the mission, a SpaceX employee explained that the company would have to cut off footage from the Falcon 9 rocket once the vehicle reached orbit. And the host said restrictions from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration were to blame.
Have you seen this video yet?
:BFR Markting Video:
Soon we will all be able to look out the window and see for ourselves.
I've seen it now and it looks faker than fake. Fake news fake video.
When will it end?
