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That video actually goes through the evidence and affirms that the physical reality is that the surface of the earth is accelerating upwards.
lol. He literally doesn’t use the word physical or physically once. He explains quite well how the acceleration is not physical.

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Upwards acceleration of the earth's surface doesn't work if the Earth is a ball, so unseen realms of existence are invented where mechanics are occurring beyond our perception.
Also not true. He also explains how this explains gravitational red shift and time dilation. Both of these things have been verified experimentally and he mentions how time dilation is taken in to account in GPS satellites. This isn’t blind faith, these are predictions of Einstein’s theories and have been observed to be true.

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The reason why we always just see Brian Cox or others merely explaining what it is, but we never see direct defense of the upward acceleration of the earth's surface through space time, is because it is ridiculous beyond words

As a wise man once said (see my sig)
“Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

:)

You continue to conflate “I don’t understand this” with “this is not possible”. And curiously you do so while cherry picking parts of mainstream science where it suits your agenda. There’s no crime in being ignorant, but it’s a little silly to base a whole worldview on that ignorance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 09:12:53 PM »
Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

"US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz will leave his post and be nominated to serve as ambassador to the United Nations, President Donald Trump says"
I actually thought you were joking.
Genuinely impossible to tell reality from satire these days.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 06:45:19 PM »
Waltz to leave his post.
Strange as he didn’t do anything wrong.
ThisIsFine.jpg

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 09:24:28 AM »
Wait wait wait...

You're using E85 as 'gas'?
No wonder we couldn't find it!  E85 is normally cheaper than regular unleaded so this went from:

Gas in many states
To gas in some states
To gas in 3 states
To gas at a few stations
To E85 at a few stations.

My my how the goal posts keep shifting.
lol
Tom will move them as far as he needs to in order to make it seem like his cult leader is right.
I wonder if he'll ever realise that the emperor has no clothes on. If he does then he will never admit it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 01, 2025, 09:08:02 AM »
Even this version of the claim
It is not a claim. That's the video if him saying "a lot of states". Something you claimed he didn't say and you accused the BBC of lying about.
But he did say it. That's the video proving it. The honest thing to do now would be to admit you were wrong and retract your accusation


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Less than two minutes beforehand he says it is in "three states"
So now you're admitting that he contradicted himself within about a minute
First it was 3 States, a minute later it was "a lot of states". Unless you're going to argue that 3 out of 50 is "a lot".
I'm not sure how this helps your case.

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Every price has gone down
Which is a lie, isn't it? Every price hasn't gone down. If we are still talking about gas and the average price has ticked up slightly then it cannot be true that every price as gone down because math.

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Replace gasoline with womens purses in your argument and you will see how poor that argument is.
What a stupid comparison. I had a look on Amazon. You can find cheap purses for under £10. You can find some "luxury" ones for over £1,000.
Gas prices cannot be compared to that - sure, some places will have higher prices than others but you won't get that sort of range.

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According to Gas Buddy Texas is now down to $1.97 a gallon for E85 type fuel
lol. So you picked the cheapest places in the entire State AND you picked the cheaptest type of fuel. A type I'd never heard of because
"Most standard petrol vehicles are not designed to run on E85 and may experience problems like loss of power, fuel economy issues, or even engine damage".

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Trump is using gasoline as a national indicator of health, and so the lowest prices in the country should be used.
lol. OK, champ. Next time you fill up let me know what price you paid. See whether the minimum price of the cheapest type of fuel available in the country helps you.
I's suggest a better measure of health is that the economy of the whole country shrunk for the first time since 2022 because of Trump's insane trade war.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 30, 2025, 09:11:48 PM »
In the video of his statement Trump says that gas "hit" 1.98 in a "couple" of states[/url]. He does not say "a lot of states", so this quote they gave us which allegedly comes from Trump is a lie as well.
Nope.

This is the video where he says it



Very clearly says "a lot of states", so please retract that accusation.

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posting the average price to its audience as a form of evidence is intellectually dishonest.
As usual, the opposite is true. If someone promises to bring down the price of something and the average price goes up then they haven't kept that promise. Even if the price at one or even a handful of gas stations is as low as he claims, it's a dishonest representation to take the minimum price you can find and use that as evidence that you kept your promise when the average has gone up.

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Some explanation about what’s really going on here. Interesting stuff.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 30, 2025, 11:00:18 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5rd35wg4ro

And yet his cult members whoop and cheer and pretend they can see 5 fingers when he holds up 4.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 29, 2025, 01:29:21 PM »
textbook leftist woke talking points the woke playbook woke ideology the far left woke lefty virtue signaling woke leftist Team Woke virtue signaling woke deflection woke

lol honestly, tim's nightly meltdowns have been the highlight of the first 100 days
I quite enjoy waking up in the morning and seeing if Tom has had another meltdown.
It's like seeing if Santa has been.

But yes, I'm very woke because I think vulnerable children and adults should be cared about and protected in a civilized country, and that there should be due process.
Utter woke leftist nonsense, that!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 28, 2025, 03:42:25 PM »
The amount of lying and crying here for criminal migrants is astounding, considering the ones doing the lying and crying actually don't give a fuck either.
In a civilized society whether someone is a criminal or not is determined in a law court.
It's the lack of due process which should concern you. It doesn't because it's not affecting you.
Yet...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 26, 2025, 12:41:09 PM »
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/ice-deports-3-u-s-citizen-children-held-incommunicado-prior-to-the-deportation

imagine unironically deporting citizen babies with cancer
And I bet people like Tom and Action are cheering this.  Those fucking MAGA.  Evil to the god damn core.
It interesting how much that lot care about unborn babies.
And how little they care about actual babies, children or adults who are vulnerable.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 25, 2025, 11:04:06 AM »
D'oh!


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 25, 2025, 09:23:16 AM »
Here you are supporting the trans journey of society:
How was I supporting it in that post? I was neither supporting nor condemning it. I was just stating as a fact that society is still trying to figure out the trans issue and what to do with it. The weird thing about you quoting that post is that I was largely agreeing with you. You said:
"I have clearly and repeatedly advocated that children should be left to be kids and decide for themselves once they are capable of making rational decisions"
And I agreed with you. I even agreed with you that the Swedish kindergarten you cited was going too far.
I also in that post said that "I don't think young children should be having gender correction surgery or drugs suppressing puberty".
How does that fit into this straw man narrative you have of me being on "team woke"?

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Here you are supporting the mass immigration which occured in Britain
I stand by my quote - I mean, it isn't even an opinion. It's just a fact that migration has been a good thing, economically. What I was talking about in that part of the post was the right wing lie that immigrants come over here and are immediately given a free luxury house and allowed to live on benefits.

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Here you are supporting abortion by trivializing fetuses as "clumps of cells"
Which at an early stage of development, it is (by the time it's a fetus it isn't just a clump of cells, for the record). Again, that's not an opinion it's just biology. I didn't express an opinion on abortion in that post, I was responding to the assertion that a clump of cells in the very early stages of development is a "human life who wants to live". It doesn't have a brain, how can it "want" anything?

You have two issues here.
Firstly, you seem to believe that trans, migration and abortion are simple, black and white issues. They aren't, they're all complex.
Secondly, you seem to believe that everyone on the left (I guess I lean more that way, but not that hard) believes the same thing. They don't.

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Trump isn't unilaterally making policy decisions on anything.
Yes he is. He's used - misused really - powers which are designed to be used in a state of emergency to make policies on tariffs. The fact those policies are informed by advisors isn't really relevant. (Nice appeal to authority by the way, another one of those you do very selectively). Those people advising him don't make the decision, Trump does. And he's doing it unilaterally. Where was the vote on any of this in Congress? There is a bill going through Congress right now which could stop him doing this - although the Republicans would have to be honest and admit there is no state of emergency, I doubt they have the balls to do it.
I note you ignored the video above which lays out how chaotic this has all been, how Trump has flip-flopped on all this. First saying that tariffs are part of the strategy and here to stay, then denying rumours that they're considering pausing them...then pausing them. Then pretending this was the strategy all along. It's a mess.

Whether you lot technically fit in to the definition of a cult isn't that relevant. You act like a cult member Trump acts like a cult leader.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 24, 2025, 11:05:25 AM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 24, 2025, 08:18:49 AM »
This is an oddly ironic form of projection. You are on Team Woke
No, I'm not. I'll add this to the very long list of "things Tom is wrong about".
You really need to stop telling people what they believe.

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which is trying to convince normal people that that men can be women, that abortion is just fine, that mass migration is beneficial
I don't believe any of those things. They are all complex issues which people like you try to pretend are simple ones.

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and yet you think that the other side is a cult.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

The way you slavishly defend everything your Supreme Leader does, no matter how clearly wrong.
The way you do mental backflips to believe the obvious lies.
Those are the actions of a cult member.

Grown ups consider statements and actions on their merit. Your first reaction is not "what was said?" or "what was done?" but "who said/did it?".
The answer to that last question then forms your opinion. If it's your Supreme Leader or one of his minions then your reaction is thisisfine.jpg, no matter how blatant the lie or how egregious the action.
Those are the actions of a cult member.

Different beliefs on the issues of trans, abortion and migration are not the actions of a cult member.
My beliefs on all those things are different to yours, they're just not as simplistic and reductive as you have claimed above.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 23, 2025, 11:26:11 AM »
What's that you say? Not as many people want to go and visit an authoritarian regime?

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/a-road-less-travelled-why-tourists-are-shunning-trumps-america-62qqfvmgx

Tourism is another industry Trump has taken a wrecking ball to, inadvertently in this case.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 23, 2025, 08:41:56 AM »
This is an interesting choice of a comeback, considering that you have an avatar of an internet troll.
That isn't even true. Can you literally not get anything right? It's just a posh gentleman meme.
https://meme.fandom.com/wiki/Feel_Like_a_Sir

Your response is basically "no u", and you've not even got that right. Dear me.

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The Trump/Johnson "lies" argument is objectively false and silly.
Yes yes, you just keep telling yourself you can see 5 fingers. There's a good cult member.
You may fool yourself, you don't fool us.

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We are supposed to believe that they walk around irrationally lying
It's not irrational. With Johnson it's strategic, with Trump I'm not sure he even knows what the truth is.
It's hilarious that you continue to pretend you're winning arguments - you generally walk away from a thread when you've been humiliated declaring yourself the winner.

Your constant thisisfine.jpg meme is fooling no-one. It's a bit embarrassing watching you flail around trying to justify the unjustifiable.
People would have some respect for you on here if you admitted when your cult leader makes a mistake.
The mental backflips you keep doing to pretend he's infallible make you look ridiculous.
Yes yes, your side "won" - I just wonder how bad things have to get in the US before you stop to consider than it was a pyrrhic victory.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 21, 2025, 08:01:00 PM »
What now?
What's my world view?
Yeah, I don't know what he's going on about either. Maybe Tom is drunk.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 21, 2025, 05:07:13 PM »
Yes, it's actually a good thing that an unqualified drunk is in charge of the military and regularly shares classified information on unsecured platforms with people who have no security clearance.
I’m quite enjoying Tom’s constant thisisfine.jpg meme responses. It’s hilarious that he thinks that because senior members of the US government have certain powers it’s fine for them to use those powers incompetently or even accidentally.
Obviously he doesn’t think that, but Tom’s gotta Tom

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