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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by juner on Today at 03:35:27 PM »

what lessons are there to learn?

That the politicians who championed and supported this bill can't be trusted to protect the interests of their constituents and therefore should be voted out would be an obvious one.

my goodness, you have solved politics. get the nyt and time to post huge stories about this...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on Today at 05:23:09 AM »

Welp, it passes the house without issue.

So Trump got what he wanted.

I'd day good luck America but honestly?  I hope you reap what you sow and if it's bad (it will be), you all suffer and know it's your own fault.

It’ll be fine. It only affects the poor and the vulnerable and fuck those guys, amirite?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on July 03, 2025, 11:54:42 PM »

what lessons are there to learn?

That the politicians who championed and supported this bill can't be trusted to protect the interests of their constituents and therefore should be voted out would be an obvious one.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 03, 2025, 10:37:40 PM »

what lessons are there to learn?

Like: Rural hospitals really really really need medicare money to keep the doors open.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by juner on July 03, 2025, 10:12:59 PM »

what lessons are there to learn?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on July 03, 2025, 09:59:42 PM »

It doesn't matter. Trump's voters won't learn any lessons from this. They'll just blame Biden or Obama for all the negative consequences

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 03, 2025, 08:23:25 PM »

Welp, it passes the house without issue.

So Trump got what he wanted.

I'd day good luck America but honestly?  I hope you reap what you sow and if it's bad (it will be), you all suffer and know it's your own fault.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Dr Van Nostrand on July 02, 2025, 12:22:13 PM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

You know, Sam Bankman-Fried was a billionaire. Now he's in prison.

Trump inherited a vast fortune and it was all gone before he was 50 years old. By his sixties, he had so many bankruptcies that the American financial industry wouldn't do business with him anymore. He gets his credit from Europe and currently Deutsche Bank holds the 'pink slip' to Mar A Lago. 90% of the businesses with his name on it have failed. Let's not forget Trump’s $TRUMP token, down by 80%.

This patently false idea that Trump is some super savvy businessman is one of the myths that keeps him popular with his Appalachian, sub-normal supporters and the idiots that invest in his scams.

BTW: Billionaires fail all the time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandinvesting/eight-billionaires-from-around-the-world-who-have-gone-broke/ar-AA1Edo8j

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on July 02, 2025, 08:40:45 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.

Indeed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-final-2016-presidential-debate/fact-check-trumps-claim-that-he-built-his-company-with-1-million-loan/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 02, 2025, 06:15:45 AM »

It's fairly absurd by any measure to claim that a billionaire is not a good businessman. Even the claim that he received a jumpstart through millions from his father just means that both Trump and his father are good business men.

His father?  Yes.
But you'd be amazed how far you can get riding on someone else's coat tails.