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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #60 on: September 05, 2014, 11:59:32 PM »
It's relevant when Zoe Quinn herself posts endless blogs and rants about it seemingly for publicity

Zoe Quinn made this nonsense mainstream, so her part is far from minimal.

I'm really having difficulty understanding the argument.  Is she supposed to just shut up and take her licks or something?

No, but she can't accuse the entire gaming population of misogyny just because she received a few death threats from some idiots. Males get death threats too, and you don't see many of them trying to get attention from it. Why is it such a big deal when females get bullied on the internet, but it's irrelevant when males get bullied? Most people in positions of popularity receive death threats and critical backlash from their bullshit behavior. That's what happens when you're in the limelight for a few hours, and it's very common in the internet age. "Game" developers should not be social crusaders (especially when their crusade is imagined), and that's why Zoe Quinn does not sit well with me. She used these points to garner a little army together, raise awareness for her game, and badmouth legitimate organizations (and also caused TFYC to lose a lot of money in donations because of it). Nothing positive has come from her whining.


edit* nothing positive has come from it other than personal gain
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2014, 12:24:11 AM »
You're totally missing the point. It's not that she's getting death threats it's why she's getting them.

No one would care if she got death threats for her views or her crap game. It's because she slept with someone. How often do guys get death threats because they slept with someone? Sure they'll have an angry ex, but you won't get misandrists coming out of the wood work to attack him.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2014, 12:33:04 AM »
You're totally missing the point. It's not that she's getting death threats it's why she's getting them.

No one would care if she got death threats for her views or her crap game. It's because she slept with someone. How often do guys get death threats because they slept with someone? Sure they'll have an angry ex, but you won't get misandrists coming out of the wood work to attack him.

She's getting death threats for a plethora of reasons. If she had slept with someone other than her boss (Joshua Bruggs) and a Kotaku journalist (Nathan Grayson), the whole sex thing would be a non-issue. Unsurprisingly, most people don't care that she cheated on her BF.... it's who she cheated on him with, because it led to questions of her integrity as a "developer" and the journalistic integrity of Kotaku and the people she works for.

You're acting like she is being attacked solely because she cheated on her BF. This is not the case. No one cares about that.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #63 on: September 06, 2014, 01:14:45 AM »
So if a male developer slept with a female kotaku reporter (and then the reporter didn't really say anything about his game) it would be a huge deal where we all questioned his integrity?

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2014, 01:16:28 AM »
So if a male developer slept with a female kotaku reporter (and then the reporter didn't really say anything about his game) it would be a huge deal where we all questioned his integrity?

Yes. This happens in politics all the time.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2014, 01:23:02 AM »
That's only really news when it's about a homosexual affair.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2014, 01:36:41 AM »
That's only really news when it's about a homosexual affair.

Bill Clinton?

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #67 on: September 06, 2014, 03:42:15 AM »
You're comparing a game developer to the POTUS now?

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2014, 04:16:00 AM »
You're comparing a game developer to the POTUS now?

Zoe Quinn is not a game developer.

Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #69 on: September 06, 2014, 11:26:48 AM »
I think if the story was just that Zoe Quinn slept with her boss and a journalist or whoever, then it would have blown over pretty quickly. There don't seem to be many reviews of Depression Quest around anyway. But there was such a massive degree of censorship on forums and websites that people started digging to find out what was going on, and started to uncover some pretty suspicious stuff.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #70 on: September 17, 2014, 12:38:38 AM »

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2014, 12:45:38 AM »
I thought we were done with this? >:|

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2014, 12:50:23 AM »
Quote from: garygreen date=1480782226
i also took an online quiz that said i was a giraffe.  and i guess you're dumb enough to believe that i must be because the internet said so.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2014, 01:40:38 AM »
 :(

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2014, 01:57:49 AM »
Zoe Quinn has responded.


"Hi. My name is Zoe, and I make weird video games..."

I stopped reading at this point because of the shear dishonesty of this one sentence. You don't make video games. Stop it.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2014, 09:04:33 AM »
George Weidman has once again produced a thought out and well reasoned video. It's fairly long (21 minutes) but worth the watch, just like all of his videos.

Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2014, 03:21:35 PM »
It looks like Gamergate is entering the endgame period. The SJWs have conducted a massive smear campaign to discredit all gamers as sexist misogynerds. All Gamergate threads are being deleted by the 4chan moderators. On the other hand the evidence of a conspiracy amongst the gaming websites is growing -

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/17/Exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2014, 04:32:40 PM »
Oh no, a journalist emailed other journalists and encouraged them to support Quinn and take a firm stand against all the abuse she's receiving!  Clearly, they ought to have remained objective and given all the harassers a fair shake too.  I can see the new, balanced, non-corrupt journalism now: "But on the other hand, maybe all the people calling Quinn a slut and telling her to die have a point.  Let's hear their side of the story..."

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2014, 05:03:57 PM »
Oh no, a journalist emailed other journalists and encouraged them to support Quinn and take a firm stand against all the abuse she's receiving!  Clearly, they ought to have remained objective and given all the harassers a fair shake too.  I can see the new, balanced, non-corrupt journalism now: "But on the other hand, maybe all the people calling Quinn a slut and telling her to die have a point.  Let's hear their side of the story..."

Gamergate is not about abusing Zoe Quinn, so I really don't know where you're pulling this shit from. Can you for once drop the white knight act?

This is the weirdest shit about SJWs. They cry about abuse but will never hesitate to abuse people who don't fit their "agenda". Targeting a group in a smear campaign and calling everyone involved sexist pigs, douchebags, and all around pathetic people seems to be perfectly fine in their books - when really the people they should be targeting with that are few outlying individuals. And they do this shit in "professional" news pieces. That's your forefront of social justice and tolerance.

And, based on what you just said, you seem to have no issue with that whatsoever.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2014, 05:16:57 PM »
Or maybe they're upset about all the abuse Quinn is receiving
Quote from: garygreen date=1480782226
i also took an online quiz that said i was a giraffe.  and i guess you're dumb enough to believe that i must be because the internet said so.