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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #180 on: September 09, 2019, 09:57:45 AM »
But if it is true, isn't it more accurate to say that he's the only one responsible? He'd just be facing the natural fall out and consequences of his own actions. If people are caught the legal way doing horrible things and then commit suicide in jail (or while out on bail before trial or during the investigation), is it the legal system that drove that person to committing suicide? Or their own shame at being found out?

The important difference is that, when you get convicted with due process, you are given the opportunity to present your case to defend yourself. Even if you get convicted, you still have a voice and an opportunity to have both sides heard fairly.

There is no such opportunity with these SJW witch hunts.
when you try to mock anyone while also running the flat earth society. Lol

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #181 on: September 09, 2019, 11:57:12 AM »
Quinn has repeatedly shown herself to be a bully, liar, and generally trashy person (aside from the meme with Eron). Nothing she says about anyone should be assumed to be true without actual evidence.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #182 on: September 10, 2019, 01:49:04 AM »
It's false because it didn't happen, not simply because you can't prove it happened. Whether it happened or not is an objective fact, and the question of proof is only relevant to whether or not you can convince others that it happened. To flip your analogy around, imagine that you really are sexually assaulted, and the culprit is a smooth criminal who leaves no trace. The fact that you can't prove that he sexually assaulted you doesn't mean that it didn't happen, nor that you're lying when you then accuse him of sexually assaulting you. Likewise, if you then search around and discover proof, like a recording of the assault, that doesn't magically change your accusation from a lie to the truth. It was always true. You could make an argument for not accepting an accusation as true unless it's accompanied by reasonable evidence, of course, but that's not the same thing as automatically assuming that every unproven accusation is a lie and should be treated as such. In fact, we could turn your own logic on your statements about Quinn - you're accusing her of being a liar who drove an innocent man to his death, despite having no proof. Therefore, you must be lying.

Do you have any proof that I'm lying?

And yes, an accusation is necessarily false unless it's proven otherwise. If you can't prove something happened, it didn't happen.


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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2019, 10:52:33 PM »
Quinn has repeatedly shown herself to be a bully, liar, and generally trashy person (aside from the meme with Eron). Nothing she says about anyone should be assumed to be true without actual evidence.
Fair enough, I know absolutely nothing about her other than this.