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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2014, 10:46:25 PM »
Yes, how dare she be victimized.  How selfish of her.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2014, 11:11:22 PM »
This DepressionQuest looks to be just a computerized choose your own adventure book. Books aren't games.
I disagree.
The old text based adventure games were basically that and they were awesome in many cases.

Play Depression Quest. It's pay what you want, so basically it's free.

Yep, it's shit.  It's total shit.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2014, 11:33:04 PM »
Yes, how dare she be victimized.  How selfish of her.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2014, 01:28:13 AM »
Goddamn, I don't get the vitriolic user reviews of that game. As someone with severe depression, I thought it was pretty accurate, and I lived the way she explicitly crossed out choices at times.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2014, 10:33:39 AM »
Goddamn, I don't get the vitriolic user reviews of that game. As someone with severe depression, I thought it was pretty accurate, and I lived the way she explicitly crossed out choices at times.

Accuracy is fine, doesn't make it a game or fun.  A learning example, sure, but not a game.
Unless you consider having depression a game.

Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2014, 11:46:54 AM »
I have played and enjoyed text adventures before, but Depression Quest doesn't feel like an actual game. For me there was far too much text to read, not enough interactivity. Maybe I have a puny attention span though.


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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2014, 05:18:13 PM »
Goddamn, I don't get the vitriolic user reviews of that game. As someone with severe depression, I thought it was pretty accurate, and I lived the way she explicitly crossed out choices at times.

Accuracy is fine, doesn't make it a game or fun.  A learning example, sure, but not a game.
Unless you consider having depression a game.
Well, fun is subjective, and clearly plenty of people have enjoyed it, so I dunno. I think "game" can be pretty vague, and it's not like anyone's really claiming it's a "video game".
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2014, 05:46:00 PM »
Goddamn, I don't get the vitriolic user reviews of that game. As someone with severe depression, I thought it was pretty accurate, and I lived the way she explicitly crossed out choices at times.

Accuracy is fine, doesn't make it a game or fun.  A learning example, sure, but not a game.
Unless you consider having depression a game.
Well, fun is subjective, and clearly plenty of people have enjoyed it, so I dunno. I think "game" can be pretty vague, and it's not like anyone's really claiming it's a "video game".

Zoe Quinn and several media outlets consider Depression Quest a game.

"a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck."

a videogame is defined as follows "a game played by electronically manipulating images produced by a computer program on a television screen or other display screen."
 
Seeing as Depression Quest does not conform to the definition of "Game", it is not a videogame. I'm glad you enjoyed it, but that doesn't make it a game. It's an interactive novel at best, but even that is stretching it. I don't consider myself playing a game when I'm browsing TVtropes or wikipedia... Depression Quest falls into the same category, for me at least. And I thought "fun" was not the objective of DQ. It's supposed to be some sort of pretentious introspective stroll down depression-lane, as if everyone experiences it the same way. I found it to be presumptuous, annoying, and poorly done. Most of the pictures seems to be taken from google images, and if they were actually photographed by Zoe Quinn herself then sorry but she's a shitty photographer.  It felt more like something a highschool teacher would make their students read for educational purposes. No fun was had.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2014, 06:55:23 PM »
Yes, how dare she be victimized.  How selfish of her.

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person.

Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2014, 07:30:14 PM »
This DepressionQuest looks to be just a computerized choose your own adventure book. Books aren't games.
I disagree.
The old text based adventure games were basically that and they were awesome in many cases.

I grew up in the 80s, with a C64.  I know text based games, and this was nothing like those in any respect, except that they were both text based.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2014, 08:35:20 PM »
Yes, how dare she be victimized.  How selfish of her.

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person.

Irrelevant.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2014, 08:44:23 PM »
Yes, how dare she be victimized.  How selfish of her.

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person.

Irrelevant.

It's relevant when Zoe Quinn herself posts endless blogs and rants about it seemingly for publicity and derails legitimate charities. She claims that she is being victimized because she is a female, which is untrue. She's being targeted because her actions are perceived as morally reprehensible and attention-grabbing.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2014, 10:35:49 PM »
But no one is really focusing on the interviewers and their integrity when they write good reviews just cause they got some tail.

Even if she had slept with them for good reviews, they're the ones who are ultimately selling themselves out.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2014, 10:39:22 PM »
But no one is really focusing on the interviewers and their integrity when they write good reviews just cause they got some tail.
What do you mean? A large part of the fuss here is precisely people focusing on the interviewers and their integrity.
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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #54 on: September 05, 2014, 10:43:29 PM »
But no one is really focusing on the interviewers and their integrity when they write good reviews just cause they got some tail.
What do you mean? A large part of the fuss here is precisely people focusing on the interviewers and their integrity.
Oh good.

I've been skimming. What I've mostly heard is just the backlash that Zoe is getting and not really anything about the reporters. And a lot of the posts here keep coming back to her part in all this. Even if she wanted to sleep around it wouldn't mean a thing if the reporters decided not to sell-out so her part is pretty minimal.

But carry on.

Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #55 on: September 05, 2014, 10:47:23 PM »
Most of the game websites and journalists are focusing on the abuse Quinn is getting, while ignoring the corruption angle.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #56 on: September 05, 2014, 10:48:11 PM »
But no one is really focusing on the interviewers and their integrity when they write good reviews just cause they got some tail.
What do you mean? A large part of the fuss here is precisely people focusing on the interviewers and their integrity.
Oh good.

I've been skimming. What I've mostly heard is just the backlash that Zoe is getting and not really anything about the reporters. And a lot of the posts here keep coming back to her part in all this. Even if she wanted to sleep around it wouldn't mean a thing if the reporters decided not to sell-out so her part is pretty minimal.

But carry on.

Zoe Quinn made this nonsense mainstream, so her part is far from minimal. One Kotaku reporter already admitted to the alleged affair, and people are upset about the possible implications of that.

Of course, like Saddam has stated, the evidence that she whored herself out for good publicity is all conjecture. There's a possibility she did this for publicity, considering who she slept with... but the evidence is spotty because it all comes down to "he said she said", facebook screencaps, 4chan threads, and personal testimony from an angry ex. Although the affair has been confirmed, it still could have been completely personal and not at all for publicity. Zoe Quinn's rabid defense makes people suspect her, however. She really has caused more harm than good from playing the victim and issuing youtube takedown notices, among other things.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #57 on: September 05, 2014, 10:56:19 PM »
Zoe Quinn made this nonsense mainstream, so her part is far from minimal.
Nah, that was her ex-boyfriend and the raging misogynists.

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2014, 10:58:00 PM »
Zoe Quinn made this nonsense mainstream, so her part is far from minimal.
Nah, that was her ex-boyfriend and the raging misogynists.

ur rite

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Re: Gamergate!
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2014, 11:43:09 PM »
It's relevant when Zoe Quinn herself posts endless blogs and rants about it seemingly for publicity

Zoe Quinn made this nonsense mainstream, so her part is far from minimal.

I'm really having difficulty understanding this argument.  Is she supposed to just shut up and take her licks or something?
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