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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Is Boston Dynamics fake?
« on: June 19, 2019, 05:11:12 PM »
The part that bugs me is the jumping straight into the speculation and accusation.
You mean having the audacity to ask the question? To dare use a question mark in my OP? To even contemplate whether something that seems extraordinary might not be all that meets the eye? You've come to the wrong site, buddy.

In short, the earth is flat. The longer version fills volumes of books.

What exactly are you asking? This is why no one replies.

I'll tell you how I read this thread.

Tell me your biggest proof so that I can then set about shooting holes in it. I'm not interested in any particular topics myself, I just want to piss on your parade instead. I did not come here in peace, I only said that to bait you into an argument. If we go to the biggest proof first, I can make a few observations, state some facts and leave having completed Flat Earth. Hurry up, I want to feel superior to a stranger on the internet.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Is Boston Dynamics fake?
« on: June 18, 2019, 10:40:55 AM »
Really Thork? Do a little research for once.

Well Thork, I have to hand it to you, but you are right on this, there is no third party anything on Boston Dynamics.


Basically, it's obvious the videos they put out are not a true representation of their robots. And why should they be? They're a private company maintaining an image, putting out an unedited video showing the true capabilities of their robots would destroy that image and their real progress.
Putting out videos of robots slipping on banana skins is a true representation? Every video is gimmicky. Every single one. There isn't one that is a straight explanation of technologies.

And where are the press? I'm expecting "Hi, I'm Chip Chapley reporting for 'I've Got This'. Today, I'm here at Boston Dynamics for a first look at [insert new robot name]. I can shove it, or encourage it to follow me. ... etc etc".
There is nothing. No journalism. Just curated press releases.

Where is the Steve Jobs standing on stage? The Blizzcon, the Apple WWDC, the Microsoft, Facebook, AMD, Nvidia anyone who is anyone standing on stage once a year showing off your new product in front of an audience?

Why does not one single soul get to see their robots in the flesh? How hard to go to a congress and do a keynote with a robot on stage? Nothing. Literally nothing. Just a 2 min youtube video.

I mean imagine ... you design a robot like the one below.

And that's it. All that time, effort, money for a 97 second youtube video. That's all they did with it.

As for the Ted talk ... I'm reviewing. I'm not sure that is a real Ted Talk rather its a mock up of a Ted Talk. I'll investigate that one further but there are bits that look very suspect.

This thing doesn't look right.   (So what?)
So that's what raised my suspicions.

Why on earth would you make it look like an ostrich?   (Why not?)
Because it isn't going to be useful.

No one has ever bought a Boston Dynamics robot.  (So what?)
Odd business that designs robots and never sells any. It has been going since 1992. That's 27 years of building robots that no one ever sees or buys or that come to market.

... am I on my own (Probably)
Well you can fool most of the people most of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

They have very very little content anywhere and it is nearly all just a few curated youtube videos. (Lack of video is no proof of anything)
When you claim to be making the best robots on earth ... the burden of proof is really on you to prove that you do. Not the rest of the world to take you at face value.

The robots are physical and plenty of people have seen them.
Have they though. I mean have they really? Because I have never seen a 3rd party individual say "I saw this one robot from Boston Dynamics and it was like this". There is no anecdotal mention of their existence anywhere.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Is Boston Dynamics fake?
« on: June 18, 2019, 12:04:19 AM »
Maybe the thing that people like the military was investing in, was the CGI for hoaxes. But then newer better stuff like deep fakes came out with the new AI stuff and softbank (a bunch of bankers, not tech people) have bought up a pup.

I mean ... forget the motives. Does this look real? Is there any independent video of say a news reporter or youtuber visiting their factory and shooting footage of a robot in the car park or something? I can find zero 3rd party footage. Everything is just what Boston put out.

Flat Earth Investigations / Is Boston Dynamics fake?
« on: June 17, 2019, 11:06:52 PM »
There is a fun video going around the internet, where a Boston Dynamics robot fights back.

And they just released the making of the video.

And this got me thinking about the real Boston Dynamics videos. I mean honestly, they are the same kind of trollish green screen.

The feet can be a give away ... they slide when they should be planted. The audio is often out of wack and the movement just doesn't look right ... usually too fast.

This thing doesn't look right. Especially around the 33-37 second mark. It is just too fast. And of course this is an incredibly stupid design for a robot that moves boxes. Why on earth would you make it look like an ostrich? And it doesn't do anything else.

All their robots look ... well just not like robots and not in a good next level way. In a CGI not real way.

They have 10 products now ... and no customers.

No one has ever bought a Boston Dynamics robot. So what is the business model?

Google sold Boston a while back. I have to wonder why? If Boston is telling lies about its robots ... maybe Theranos and the spectre of being accused of wire fraud (Alphabet is listed) made them drop it.

Anyway ... am I on my own or does anyone else think there is something very suspect about Boston? They have very very little content anywhere and it is nearly all just a few curated youtube videos.

Look at this thing jumping. If seems to float or hang in the air just before it lands some of the jumps. Like the physics isn't quite there. Look at and focus on its feet when it jumps. They are the only bit where the CGI has to interact with the room ... and this is where I think I see continuity issues.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

FYI you can step through youtube videos using the < and > keys on your keyboard to look frame by frame. Some of their videos with the dog thing look very weird like this. Again, focus on the feet.

In this video check out 1:27 ... step through the video and look at the back feet when its front foot touches the banana skin. It throws itself over like Neymar. It just doesn't look real.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Cyberpunk 2077 E3
« on: June 10, 2019, 09:02:15 AM »
I loved the Witcher 3 ... but these are not casual games. Games like this are going to want 200+ hours of your life from you. And if I am going to give 200 hours, I have to be really hyped about a game ... and this one doesn't make me want to play it.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Investigating FE Jupiter
« on: June 07, 2019, 12:17:05 PM »
Interesting.  You do realize, of course, Hydrogen has only one electron, right? less than that, no energy wave, no element.  You also do realize that spectroscopy identifies Hydrogen as the most abundant element in the visible universe, right?

Define H+ and H- and come back to me about having no electrons means no element.

Some reading you might enjoy ...

They will see 'water vapour' everywhere. The forecast is going to be rain all day everywhere on earth forever.

I think even you could understand why that might be undesirable.

I like how Thork thinks meteorologists will prevail over corporate greed and corrupt governments.
You don't think meteorologists make money literally selling predictions that don't even have to be correct?

It's the best racket on earth.

You can literally get it completely wrong and no one sues you, no matter how wrong, how dangerous, how much damage, how many people weren't evacuated and how negligent you were. You just charge people for a new weather forecast the next day.

They sell to all the TV networks, app devs, military, aviation, shipping ... its a frickin' gold mine.

5G might not happen.

Turns out 5G runs in the 24Ghz range. And weather satellites happen to run at 23.8GHz.

NASA, NOAA and a host of others have said if you create 5G it will create so much noise that we won't be able to predict the weather and that means no accurate weather for aircraft, shipping, hurricane warnings for cities ... basically lots of people will die. So 5G is going to need a major rethink.

You can't change the weather satellites frequency. 23.8Ghz is the frequency needed to detect water vapour ... a natural property. So 5G will have to shift ... or die and become 6G on a totally different wave band. But of course upping the frequency will shorten 5G's range even more and it is already a problem requiring a transmitter on every street corner.

I'm coming down on the side of no 5G ever.

Arts & Entertainment / Re: Game of Thrones
« on: May 22, 2019, 03:22:16 PM »
BBC dedicated an entire article today to how the wimminz don't get as many speaking lines as the men.

Which is probably one of the reasons this series has been such a success.  :-\

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Appealing Bans
« on: May 21, 2019, 11:00:43 AM »
No. This is a placebo forum. Its like being able to vote for an MEP in the euro elections. You feel like it makes a difference so you go along with it, but really all of the decisions are made by the commission anyway.

I don't remember ever seeing a ban overturned. Not once. In 7 years. All the hundreds and hundreds of bans ... I can't point to one single ban that was over turned. In no way is this S&C board here to allow you to challenge a ban. It is here to give the veneer of fairness. I'm not sure why you haven't figured this out yet.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Appealing Bans
« on: May 21, 2019, 10:33:40 AM »
Banning you isn't a black and white choice. It is more of a feeling. That they are sick of you and would rather you didn't exist for a little while. And because they do run the world ... poof ... you disappear and we all get a little holiday from you.

If someone thinks you are a dick, you can't really appeal that. You just have to wait for them to forgive you; hence ban. They decide it might take 3 days to forgive you ... 3 day ban it is.

Well fuck me.

After Trump Ban, Huawei Phones Will Lose Access To Google Software

I rely on google.  So losing access to gmail and youtube and maps is not something I can handle.  So guess I need to see if I can find another phone and swap this...

Thanks Trump, ya asshole.

Another victory for Trump. He wants you to buy American you dummy. He's trying to close the trade deficit. He doesn't want you sending your dollars to China. That will make you poor. Trump is having to do this because you are too dim to work out that you should, given the choice, buy American where possible. That means more dollars in the US and more jobs. What an excellent president. I will admire him from afar being as he is unappreciated in his own land.

Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Appealing Bans
« on: May 21, 2019, 10:10:57 AM »
Is there any way one can appeal a ban without creating an alt?

I found during a recent period of time on the naughty step that one can't PM anyone or post anywhere - not even in the lower fora or S&C - while banned.
So is there any way that someone could appeal other than creating an alt which I can't imagine you want to encourage?
If there isn't, shouldn't there be?

Interestingly, it looked to me like you can report a post while banned and vote in polls.
Not sure if that's as intended but thought I'd mention it in case you want to look into it.

You can send me $100 and I will be your e-lawyer, appealing on your behalf.

Surely by the time they have banned you, a judgement has been made? There is no appeal, you are now serving your sentence. The smart thing to do is to appeal the warnings you are picking up along the way and get them rescinded, thereby leaving you not precariously sitting under the Sword of Damocles.

My preference is to just take the ban and then send a poisoned PM to the mod afterwards telling them that you will hurt their family. But I'll do me and you do you.

God made you, quite literally, a sinner.  Kinda weird to go to him to fix it, no?
You can't pray the gay away, Lord Dave.

God seems very authoritarian in this scenario. He's the sovereign forever, no debate. I mean where is the vote? There are other candidates. I've been reading the manifesto from Satan at it is very attractive. Sex with whomever or whatever you like, you can kill people you don't like, need some money ... just go take it from someone who has some, no praying, no worship, you can masturbate until it drops off, never feel guilty about anything ever again, never have to apologise, the music is better and clothes are optional. I say let's give this Satan guy 5 years in office and see if we don't all prefer this alternative.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: 25 Questions for Flat Earthers!
« on: May 05, 2019, 12:13:40 PM »
ill be happy with a 1 sentence answer as long as there are no contradictions between answers
How about questions number 1, 7, 10, 11 and 16?
Fine. Although this is not going to make for a good thread.

1) Lunar eclipses on a flat earth are explained here.
7) Well they aren't always directly opposite. Sometimes the moon does catch the sun. This is because the moon orbits in a circle and the sun varies its orbit depending on the time of year.

10) is explained here
16) There is a thread open right now about this.

So everything is right there. Either a forum search or a google search.

We are happy to go into the finer details of topics, but just giving people intro explanations again and again is very unrewarding. Do some research, find the thing you disagree with and bring that.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: 25 Questions for Flat Earthers!
« on: May 04, 2019, 11:26:51 PM »
Are you happy with one sentence answers for each with no sources or references?

I'm guessing not.

So 25 questions each requiring, shall we say a paragraph, with researched references. Let's say each takes just 5 minutes to formulate.

Do you think it is reasonable that anyone should put over 2 hours into a reply for you when everyone gives their time here for free? I don't. How about you pick ONE question and make a thread about that ... like everyone else who visits here does?  ::)

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections
« on: May 03, 2019, 01:59:27 PM »
Jokes aside, people did give shit. A huge shit.

We have a homeless charity in our borough that is very well respected. I know two of the girls that help run it and when I do my Santa sleigh thing each year its one of the charities we donate to. The Brett foundation made the news go national. It was a scandal and the Prime minister was forced to intervene. The head of our council staved off two no confidence votes off the back of it and it is only because they held such a huge majority that he stayed in. And that's the main reason they got such a hiding this time around. A council riding roughshod with no oversight or accountability. Many of his own councillors resigned and defected to be independent this time around off the back of that scandal. The town seems pretty happy with the election result. They still get to stay Tory, but they aren't going to be dictated to. The head of the council looks nervous and we like him that way.

Some of the fall out if you care.

And in World News ...

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections
« on: May 03, 2019, 01:50:48 PM »
Yeah, like I said, I really didn't give a shit about the homeless, they do make the place look like crap.

But the roads. That's the thing to focus on. Our roads are nothing short of a disgrace. The council has pledged that if they got elected they'd spend £50m fixing them. Today there are constant demands from people wanting to know which roads they are fixing first. Going to be a bumpy ride (awesome pun) for the council in the next few weeks.

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