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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 12, 2020, 12:24:11 PM »

The point is that he has his standard picking list of answers;

If he hasn't heard about, doesn't know about it, doesn't understand what he is asked, his go-to is

"We're looking at that very strongly"
"We're looking into that very deeply"
"I'll have an answer to that in a couple of weeks"

Yesterday it was UFOs, but my point is that the subject does. not. matter. Yesterday's was especially "out there", but it's the same tactic every time, and this one pointed it up more than most, precisely due to its "out there-ness".

If this is the worst of his lying crimes, choose Trump. Listen to the absolute rot that Biden comes out with.

https://www.westernjournal.com/never-forget-massive-lie-joe-biden-told-number-college-degrees/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 12, 2020, 11:28:39 AM »

Trump lies; thousands of them, as someone else wrote above.

Trump was asked on Fox yesterday "What about UFOs", and he replied "We're looking at that very strongly"

If you ask a stupid question, expect a stupid answer. I mean, a grown adult asking about UFOs? They're talking to the President on national TV. Ask about homelessness, military interventions, joblessness ... something important. What about UFOs? Yeah, sure, we're looking into it. ... That's the way you talk to a 5 year old, and if you reduce the conversation to that level, what do you expect? A serious answer? Does Trump have to reiterate that there aren't any aliens despite SETI wasting $billions to confirm as much? Its like asking him to condemn white nationalists. Has he not done that for at least 4 hours? He must have become a racist. 

No way is his administration even giving a second thought to UFOs at the moment.

So why ask such a stupid bloody question? It got the answer it deserves.

You only want two or three?
1) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2007/sep/27/joe-biden/biden-way-off-on-alcohol-related-birth-defects/
2) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/09/joe-biden/joe-biden-misstates-daily-deaths-united-states-can/
3) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/09/joe-biden/joe-biden-takes-donald-trumps-words-about-gang-mem/

The first is merely quoting a mistaken figure, not outright lie.

The second is too; Biden quoted stats for the Americas as a whole, not the United States, and it was corrected once this was pointed out. Could easily have been staffer's mistake in compiling figures

The third is mere mis-statement, not outright lie, too.

"Biden said that Trump "asserted that immigrants would quote, ‘carve you up with a knife’." but Trump was talking about MS-13 gang members."  Trump still used the words that Biden quoted, merely in reference to a different group.

You literally excused every lie your candidate made. It doesn't matter what lies he tells. He can tell us that he got arrested trying to protest Mandela's imprisonment in a blatant and patronising piece of pandering to black voters. It is every bit as transparent as Hilary claiming she walks around with a bottle of hot sauce in her handbag. And you don't care. You're more interested that Trump didn't waste 20 mins debating aliens and instead wafted the question away.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: October 12, 2020, 12:24:06 AM »

#walkaway is picking up a lot of momentum.


I'll just leave this here. Maybe someone like Lord Dave or Roundy will come to their senses. Or maybe they will continue to support Beelzebub. Whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 09:27:02 PM »

The problem for democrats is that democrats don't actually like Biden. They hate Trump, sure, but are they motivated to go and tick a box for a guy they don't like? Do they want to live with the fact they voted for the next Whitehouse disaster?


^ Democrats talking about how much they hate Biden. So if you poll saying are you a democrat or republican, that's going to give you a very different number to did you actually bother your arse to go out and vote for a guy you hate? The dems will struggle with apathy this time around. The republicans will have no such issue as they will be furious at the way the dems have behaved in opposition with impeachment, 25th amendment, threats of packing the supreme court, and will want sour-faced old cunts like Pelosi to feel some voter pain.

Trump's gonna steal this.
https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2020/10/11/fakepoll-alert-proof-biden-is-not-winning-n2577814

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 07:26:45 PM »

All differences aside: doesn't it suck that the supposedly most powerful nation in the world gets to choose between two senile professional liars for their next leader?

Biden's a liar? Really?

Indulge me, what would you say were his worst two or three?

You only want two or three?
1) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2007/sep/27/joe-biden/biden-way-off-on-alcohol-related-birth-defects/
2) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/may/09/joe-biden/joe-biden-misstates-daily-deaths-united-states-can/
3) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/09/joe-biden/joe-biden-takes-donald-trumps-words-about-gang-mem/

I'm enjoying this ... indulge me
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/13/joe-biden/fact-checking-biden-use-cages-during-obama-adminis/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/13/joe-biden/does-medicare-all-cost-more-entire-budget-biden-sa/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/27/joe-biden/long-history-racism-us-presidency/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/28/joe-biden/biden-wrong-mcdonalds-workers-cant-jump-competing-/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/04/joe-biden/joe-biden-wrong-about-how-early-he-called-invoke-d/
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/06/joe-biden/biden-inflated-number-clemency-actions-obama/

Oh, and then there is this gem ...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 07:17:23 PM »

Yeah, Biden has never told any lies. 

All differences aside: doesn't it suck that the supposedly most powerful nation in the world gets to choose between two senile professional liars for their next leader?

It is a fucking shit show.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 07:07:16 PM »

Well, the president lying prodigiously is a matter of public record and bias free.

Yeah, Biden has never told any lies. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/25/bidens-ridiculous-claim-he-was-arrested-trying-see-mandela/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 02:16:33 PM »

Trump knows coronavirus isn't dangerous.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/107790/flu-killing-more-people-than-covid-19

You do realise that those figures are for the UK, don't you?

Is American coronavirus more dangerous than British coronavirus?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 11, 2020, 01:17:25 PM »

If Trump really cared about his tribe, he would have had them spaced out on chairs on the WH lawn, not packed in like sardines.

Trump knows coronavirus isn't dangerous.

https://www.theweek.co.uk/107790/flu-killing-more-people-than-covid-19

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 10, 2020, 02:48:20 PM »

If you watch this video all the way through, you'll see the kind of people Democrats are.

But the best interview is this one   

Ah yes a cherry-picked interview video on YouTube with a dozen or so people.  Surely representative of the whole.

I want to play stupid games too: The people arrested for the Michigan Governor kidnapping are the perfect example of republicans.  Do I win a stupid prize now?

I showed you a nice video of a sweet little girl saying positive things about her President and you reduced her sentiment to a cherry picked law of probability. Democrats are awful. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 10, 2020, 02:42:46 PM »

If you watch this video all the way through, you'll see the kind of people Democrats are.

But the best interview is this one   

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Cyberpunk 2077 E3

« on: October 08, 2020, 08:57:58 AM »

Why? Why do they have to send their gamers a message? Can't they just leave them alone to play the game? Why do they have to be 'educated' in leftist tropes?

Anyway, you just lost my money. I wanted to be entertained, not lectured. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 05, 2020, 06:26:32 PM »

Don't worry Pete. Americans see right through the Democrats.

Last I checked, the Venn diagram showing Americans and Democrats had a pretty substantial overlap. 

Real Americans vote Republican. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: California WTF

« on: October 05, 2020, 03:24:24 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2020, 11:50:45 PM »

What a tantrum just because you read something that doesn't match your confirmation bias.

In addition to working on gaining a basic understanding of polling and statistics, you should also stop using words when you don't understand their meaning. And maybe also stop with the projection, since you are the only emotional one here. The reality is that facts don't care about your feelings.

Why do I care who is President of the United States? I don't have to live in a Democrat run smack den in LA. These aren't my feelings. These are just objective opinions. My opinion is that the US will become a totalitarian crap hole if Biden becomes President. I don't feel anything about that. You'll have done it to yourselves.

That said, I will enjoy watching liberals having meltdowns when Trump wins again, but that's just a little light entertainment. My feelings aren't tied to it.

Got it, you don't understand how US Presidential voting works, nor the significance of election results. You also don't understand fairly basic statistics.

What a tantrum just because you read something that doesn't match your confirmation bias. This is exactly why you keep seeing polls saying Biden is going to win. You hunt such stories out. You don't want to hear anything that bursts your bubble which is why you opted straight for

The irony of you saying this when up until this point you broadly rejected polls is delicious.

I rejected YOUR polls. The same polls that were wrong last time.

This below is an interesting article.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-real-story-of-2016/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2020, 11:31:29 PM »

Got it, you don't understand how US Presidential voting works, nor the significance of election results. You also don't understand fairly basic statistics.

What a tantrum just because you read something that doesn't match your confirmation bias. This is exactly why you keep seeing polls saying Biden is going to win. You hunt such stories out. You don't want to hear anything that bursts your bubble which is why you opted straight for

Best of luck and take care, friend.

You ran away to bury your head in the sand.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2020, 11:20:19 PM »

Hillary won the popular vote by a margin of ~3 million votes.

No one cares.

She lost the electoral college by ~70,000 votes across 3 states in an election that saw 138 million votes. Obviously winning the EC is what matters, but only a literal moron would say she was "wrecked."

She lost by 304 seats to 227. That's not close. That's quite a lead. That is several more states could have gone to her and she still wouldn't have one. She got wrecked.

Non-partisan polling has been abundantly clear this entire time. Biden has a national lead of about ~8 points. He has leads in 6 key battleground states, 3 of those outside the margin of error. I know you think the statisticians are making the same mistakes again, but I assure you they learned something since last time around. Still, nothing is certain, but you should work on having a more informed opinion.

There is nothing to learn. They don't post their prediction. They post the result their readers want to read. That's how political papers retain customers. Confirmation bias.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2020, 10:57:20 PM »

But losing the popular vote means you have a weak mandate.

No, it just means some people's votes are worth more than other people's votes. We have the same thing here. The Scottish votes are worth far more than an English vote in representation terms. Hate the game, not the playah. 

If we trust the poll of your choice. You never mentioned why you had a change of heart on polls all of a sudden. Do you have an actual reasoned out position? Is it just the continuation of your larping? Please enlighten us.

Because these are private polls and those tend to be more accurate than say CNN vox-popping in the streets of San Francisco. https://usadailyexpress.com/donald-trump-surging-in-private-polls-as-democrats-off-base-with-regular-voters/

While other polls have Biden ahead, the Democracy Institute, which correctly predicted Brexit and Trump’s win in 2016, only considers people who identify as “likely voters” rather than all registered voters and also asks about the so called shy vote.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Survay. I would love to have the opinion of the flat earth community

« on: October 04, 2020, 10:28:46 PM »

Question 2: What is your gross family income?

What does the amount my family and I earn, have to do with you or the shape of the earth?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: October 04, 2020, 09:57:39 PM »

304 to 227 is pretty convincing to me. I don't care about the number of votes. That is meaningless. That's like losing a game of football 5-0 and claiming you had more possession and so should have won really.

Trump is on course to win even more heavily than last time.