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Flat Earth Community / Re: Youtube to start reducing flat earth videos
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:00:30 PM »
Like Pete wrote, I look at it as a company making a decision on what they choose to promote.
If they choose what is promoted then they are publishers, not platforms. This means they no longer receive protection from Section 230.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communications_Decency_Act

And that would be fine by me. They could then be sued for anything on their platforms. They can't have it both ways. Either you aren't responsible and you can't edit a public platform, or you do edit and you are a liable publisher.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Question about logic.
« on: February 05, 2019, 11:31:50 AM »
How about you think about that question logically?

Is correcting mathematics or factually incorrect statements a personal attack?



Whoever you are arguing with and whatever it is about ... I'll bet you are the one that is wrong. Surely you could have figured out the answer to your question without making a stupid thread?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Youtube to start reducing flat earth videos
« on: February 05, 2019, 11:14:46 AM »
^ Are you saying you are smarter than Steve Jobs and that Steve Jobs was poorly educated?  ::)

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Youtube to start reducing flat earth videos
« on: February 04, 2019, 04:36:48 PM »
I've been at this site for about a decade. Maybe made 40,000-50,000 posts by now, I've lost count. I've never managed to convince a single person that the earth is flat. Option 3 doesn't exist.

But I have reached kids that teachers couldn't. Those disengaged, those that would never put their hand up in class but can hide behind the anonymity of the internet, those that didn't think they had an interest in science until the day they needed it to prove that I'm an idiot. In class you can be told the earth is round, but that's a pretty shaky basis for establishing a foundation that you will build everything else upon. Why is it round? How can you be so sure? What are the underlying principles? Do you understand every nuisance, can you use what you know to explain things you've never considered before? Explain to the alien, school the flat earther.

"Someone is wrong on the internet" is a powerful motivator. It will motivate kids to read scientific papers, do pack of envelop calculations, debate, discuss, create their own content ... and not as a tick in the box assignment for a grade. Because they became passionate about it. Because they wanted to win. Because they wanted to use their wit and brains to defeat a loudmouth on the internet. The flat earth movement is 21st century digital education. Effective, alluring, interactive and rewarding. No one leaves this forum more stupid than the day that they arrived.

And yet google stomps through the internet meadow, crushing the delicate little flowers beneath with its size 12 boots because it has no sense of the underlying ecosystem that it is destroying and it never takes a moment to stop and enjoy the beauty of things it doesn't understand.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Youtube to start reducing flat earth videos
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:33:56 PM »
A silly move done by a company whose management seem increasingly filled with millennial cry babies.

When confronted with a flat earth video, 99.9% of people do one of two things.

1) Call the content creator an idiot in the comments, give them a thumbs down and go to the next video.
2) Take on board the content and begin a debate refuting it. This invariably means at some point they will need to learn about something to fill a hole in their knowledge. They'll want a source disproving the assertion that earth is flat. They'll search, read and learn.

Which part of search, read and learn doesn't Google like?

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Technology & Information / Re: Fixing the forum's password hashing
« on: February 02, 2019, 09:51:23 PM »
I have the new sexy one. I don't feel any sexier. This is a scam.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 02, 2019, 06:22:06 PM »
I love this version of this song.


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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Anti-Vaxxers
« on: January 30, 2019, 11:38:44 AM »
It is almost as if neither of you clicked the source I provided showing that vaccinations do create superbugs.

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/are-vaccines-creating-superbugs/

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Anti-Vaxxers
« on: January 29, 2019, 11:23:29 AM »
I'm against vaccinating low-risk groups unnecessarily, yes. It causes virus immunity that then harms those that would be at severe risk.

Lets take flu shots. Old people queue round the block for these every winter. Not ill people ... old people. Heaven forbid they might have a sniffle. This makes flu resistant and means if someone who may be in hospital with an immune problem needs a flu shot to save their life ... it might not be effective any more.

Couple this with the vast expense (thank you socialist NHS) of providing millions of shots to precious old people who don't want a runny nose and I think mass vaccinations for many diseases are utterly pointless and in many cases dangerous and economically predatory.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Anti-Vaxxers
« on: January 28, 2019, 08:56:05 PM »
They work ... but not for very long in the greater scheme of things. And soon they won't work and there will be nothing that does.

http://www.vaxchoicevt.com/are-vaccines-creating-superbugs/

No point in keeping your powder dry when there is profit to be made today. Give everyone medicines they don't need and vampire the treasury to pay for it.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Star Citizen
« on: January 20, 2019, 12:27:34 PM »
x4 Foundations looks good.

Why didn't Roberts launch something like that ... and then start adding the BS MMO part afterwards?

The fact x4 exists ... would worry me that Star citizen isn't as good after all this time and all this money.


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon size and distance
« on: January 09, 2019, 11:50:59 PM »
Weird numbers.  ???

According to Voliva we have 27 miles for the sun (you can infer the moon to be the same size) and 3000 miles.
Source

Otherwise we take the Rowbotham numbers and he gets 800 miles high and 32 miles.
Source

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 09, 2019, 04:38:55 PM »
useless ways to try and keep brown people away from you.
Couldn't America just get a 10 mile restraining order against brown people?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 08, 2019, 06:54:02 PM »
I'm all for democracy and if people voted "We're going to build a wall and US taxpayers are all going to pay for it", then you should have a wall. But without assurances from Mexico that they will pay for it, I don't think Trump should get his money. No one went to the polls on that promise. It wasn't on anyone's manifesto.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Build Wall
« on: January 08, 2019, 06:44:06 PM »
Trump said "We are going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it". So why is the government shut down until he gets $5bn to build a wall?  ???

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Smileys are busting https
« on: December 11, 2018, 11:59:34 AM »
I wonder how long it would have taken John Davis to fix?

Anyway, thank you very much.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Smileys are busting https
« on: December 11, 2018, 02:20:27 AM »
Hit reply to this post ... the site becomes insecure. The little smileys are all being pulled from 'http://forum.tfes.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif' and not from https. It annoys me when the little padlock gives way to a raging exclamation mark. Please add the required 's' to eliminate this mixed content issue.

Thanks.

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Alternatively, can you make an IP redirect thing. So if someone from that IP address posts, the post is automatically dumped in CN. They'll soon learn where to put those kind of posts.
Please don't talk out loud about technical subjects.
Being as this is S&C a simple YES or NO would be fine. You don't need to be rude.

COPPA
We do not collect or maintain personal information of <13yos, nor are we in violation of any of the prohibited acts. We're also not in America.
An e-mail address is personal info. As is an IP address. Not being in America means nothing if you serve users from the area. Facebook can't say "We aren't in the EU so we don't have to comply with EU rules".

Anyway, I'm wasting electrons on you. You've been a prick of late and everything is about being rude to other people. Do whatever you want. You will anyway. I've no idea why you ask for opinions.

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Wow, also these are children, not students. Like children children.

I might ask, do we have an age policy and is that age 13+ like social media platforms? Legal reason for doing so below.

http://www.coppa.org/coppa.htm

I might add the age restriction in the EU is more strict and children are anyone under 16.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43888647


Frankly we aren't set up to have 11 year olds here. If they get trapped in CN with Uncle Thork talking graphically about transgender mutilation or the virtues of incest, it is going to damage them for a long time.

Do we have an idea of how young we want people who come here to be? I'm guessing no one wants 6 year olds here. 13? Would we prefer 16+? Do we just go with the facebook style policies for simplicity? I have no idea where we would police that? I can't find our privacy policy and terms and conditions only talks about copyright. Not age of users.

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Banning universities is a horrible idea. Imagine if your uni got banned because the geology dept got bored and came here. You'd be banned too.

Can you do a timeout ... say 2 hours ... and then reopen? I'm guessing that covers the free period they are sat in the library deciding where to attack next.

Alternatively, can you make an IP redirect thing. So if someone from that IP address posts, the post is automatically dumped in CN. They'll soon learn where to put those kind of posts.

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