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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: is salvation forever or can one lose their salvation

« on: Today at 07:32:53 PM »

God made you, quite literally, a sinner.  Kinda weird to go to him to fix it, no?

You can't pray the gay away, Lord Dave.

God seems very authoritarian in this scenario. He's the sovereign forever, no debate. I mean where is the vote? There are other candidates. I've been reading the manifesto from Satan at it is very attractive. Sex with whomever or whatever you like, you can kill people you don't like, need some money ... just go take it from someone who has some, no praying, no worship, you can masturbate until it drops off, never feel guilty about anything ever again, never have to apologise, the music is better and clothes are optional. I say let's give this Satan guy 5 years in office and see if we don't all prefer this alternative.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 25 Questions for Flat Earthers!

« on: May 05, 2019, 12:13:40 PM »

ill be happy with a 1 sentence answer as long as there are no contradictions between answers
How about questions number 1, 7, 10, 11 and 16?

Fine. Although this is not going to make for a good thread.

1) Lunar eclipses on a flat earth are explained here. http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm
7) Well they aren't always directly opposite. Sometimes the moon does catch the sun. This is because the moon orbits in a circle and the sun varies its orbit depending on the time of year.

10) is explained here https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earth-blood-moon-conspiracy-theory-science-nasa-8467506
11)
16) There is a thread open right now about this. https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=14696.0

So everything is right there. Either a forum search or a google search.

We are happy to go into the finer details of topics, but just giving people intro explanations again and again is very unrewarding. Do some research, find the thing you disagree with and bring that.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: 25 Questions for Flat Earthers!

« on: May 04, 2019, 11:26:51 PM »

Are you happy with one sentence answers for each with no sources or references?

I'm guessing not.

So 25 questions each requiring, shall we say a paragraph, with researched references. Let's say each takes just 5 minutes to formulate.

Do you think it is reasonable that anyone should put over 2 hours into a reply for you when everyone gives their time here for free? I don't. How about you pick ONE question and make a thread about that ... like everyone else who visits here does? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections

« on: May 03, 2019, 01:59:27 PM »

Jokes aside, people did give shit. A huge shit.

We have a homeless charity in our borough that is very well respected. I know two of the girls that help run it and when I do my Santa sleigh thing each year its one of the charities we donate to. The Brett foundation made the news go national. It was a scandal and the Prime minister was forced to intervene. The head of our council staved off two no confidence votes off the back of it and it is only because they held such a huge majority that he stayed in. And that's the main reason they got such a hiding this time around. A council riding roughshod with no oversight or accountability. Many of his own councillors resigned and defected to be independent this time around off the back of that scandal. The town seems pretty happy with the election result. They still get to stay Tory, but they aren't going to be dictated to. The head of the council looks nervous and we like him that way.


Some of the fall out if you care.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44122401
https://www.bigissue.com/latest/how-the-royal-wedding-sparked-an-urgent-conversation-about-homelessness/

And in World News ...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/18/europe/royal-wedding-windsor-homeless-intl/index.html

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections

« on: May 03, 2019, 01:50:48 PM »

Yeah, like I said, I really didn't give a shit about the homeless, they do make the place look like crap.

But the roads. That's the thing to focus on. Our roads are nothing short of a disgrace. The council has pledged that if they got elected they'd spend £50m fixing them. Today there are constant demands from people wanting to know which roads they are fixing first. Going to be a bumpy ride (awesome pun) for the council in the next few weeks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections

« on: May 03, 2019, 12:43:35 PM »

Well my council remains Tory, but their wings were clipped.

New number of seats this time and they squeaked 23 out of 41.

The council leader looks crest fallen. Its a pretty good result here.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Local elections

« on: May 02, 2019, 09:59:02 PM »

Also I'm not convinced they should have allowed dogs to vote.



















I guess they ran out of immigrants to give polling cards to.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Local elections

« on: May 02, 2019, 08:36:28 PM »

Today the wise British public casts its votes to decide which political parties will run its councils.

I happen to live in possibly the most important district in the country. The seat of the Prime Minister. Now she's not up for election but the council currently has 47 out of 57 Conservative seats in the district. Basically it is the strongest support for the party in the country.

The media has written my district off as a whitewash. But, I'm not seeing this. People are super unhappy with our council. In fact they absolutely hate it. Social media seems to suggest an upset. But that could just be a microcosm of vociferate hardline rebels. The result is announced in around 5-6 hours. If there is an upset it will be front page news with the media blaming Brexit. But just so you know, it will be nothing to do with Brexit. It'll be the head of the council rounding up all the homeless and detaining them during the Royal Wedding so they didn't make the place look messy and the state of our fucking roads!    

The do gooders are enraged here
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/03/windsor-council-calls-removal-homeless-people-before-royal-wedding

Selfish bastards like me are enraged here
https://www3.rbwm.gov.uk/directory_record/13313/73136_foi_potholes

They've managed to upset absolutely everyone.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Losing Respectibility

« on: May 01, 2019, 08:21:34 PM »

Who appointed Mark Sargent as a leader? We don't even recognise him.

So tell him this. Take him down a peg or two.

He won't listen to RE-ers who tell him this, will he?

Why?

I could scream "Theresa May doesn't represent me. I never voted for her!". Doesn't matter does it? She's still out there representing my nation. What difference does it make whether we endorse Mark Sargent or not? He has every right to try to make a living. Someone somewhere must appreciate his efforts. And I personally am not one of life's destroyers. I don't scream ban this or remove that. I don't say "Stop this hate speech" or burn those books. My answer is always the same. If you don't like the argument, make a better one. If you don't like what Mark Sargent is saying, refute his assertions. Make a video critiquing him. Make a blog. Do a podcast. Build something. Add. Be positive. Don't just point at things and say they are shit and should be condemned. If they are shit, make something better. I can't make better videos than Mark, so who am I to tell him he's doing it wrong?

*I did vote for Theresa May. I'm a filthy Tory.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Why crepuscular rays aren't proof for the position of the Sun.

« on: May 01, 2019, 03:20:13 PM »

And the angle of those tracks is less pronounced than those sun rays. Those rays are at a greater angle than one can attribute to fore shortening.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Why crepuscular rays aren't proof for the position of the Sun.

« on: May 01, 2019, 02:09:47 PM »

Light travels in straight lines. Parallel lines if from a source infinitely far away.

If you can't just follow those lines and complete the triangle, round earth needs to explain why this light bends. This distance of the clouds is not important. That distance is small compared to the millions of miles the sun is purportedly supposed to be.

If ever with your eyes you want proof that the sun is not millions of miles away, your picture is an excellent example.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Losing Respectibility

« on: May 01, 2019, 12:10:39 PM »

I saw viva Frei interview mark sergeant  on YouTube recently. I watched mark tell us how he earns a living of off this . I heard mark tell us how hes very popular since he has a wiki page. Then I watched mark get cocky and arrogant. After letting mark talk almost without interruption for the first half hour the interviewer called mark out on an inaccurate statement and didnt let up until it was over. I.just think  a leader should be someone who can face pressure , or an advisory while being cool under pressure. Mark reacts by rambling for what seems like hours, quickly giving responses that are a result of him talking about 5 different topics throughout his answer

Who appointed Mark Sargent as a leader? We don't even recognise him.

Sure, he makes nice little videos. But he is a self-appointed spokesperson. I could be a self-appointed leader on climate change if I wanted. It just comes down to would anyone listen to me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Philosophy dichotomy test

« on: April 30, 2019, 05:45:36 PM »

A window into my soul ... as requested.



Also all that nihilism you have. Its a wonder you haven't killed yourself. I mean what's the point of breathing if its all so meaningless?

Also I didn't get the little icons and philosophies. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 10:34:07 PM »

I don't need to explain it. Einstien already explained it. You just need to read up on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 07:52:14 PM »

This is like pulling teeth.

You do feel gravity. It pulls you to the floor.

The air is also accelerating as it is pushed up with the earth, so you don't feel wind. Where would the wind take the air? It goes with the earth. Like a truck pushing a plow.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 06:12:47 PM »

The sea is not squashed because it is an in-compressible fluid. The air has a density profile because it is a compressible fluid.

The important part is that they are both fluids. IE, you can have things float or sink in them. Compressibility is just a red herring that you have decided to introduce.

Ah-ha! There's a significant difference in there! The Earth's rotation has a constant speed, it does not change every second. Therefore, no crosswinds would be expected, and indeed, we don't have them.

We don't have them because the air is moving at the same rate as the earth. Exactly as the air accelerates at the same rate as the earth. No delta. No rate of change. No perceived movement. I believe a young Jewish lad once called this 'relativity'.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 05:20:38 PM »

Ooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

the principle applies to either theory and therefore we didn't include it, much like we don't feel we have to explain the existence of ducks on a flat earth.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 05:08:38 PM »

No. The theory is sound because you are making an imaginary problem that doesn't exist regardless of whether the earth is round or flat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 04:53:14 PM »

This "rising up" Earth is totally non-sense, honestly. If we were, indeed, accelerating upwards, then we would experience constant winds coming down from above.

This is exactly like saying "if the earth is spinning at 1000mph, we would be unable to stand in the supersonic crosswinds.

As I said in my very first reply. You can't apply double standards. If its good for the goose, it is good for the gander.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity

« on: April 28, 2019, 04:50:00 PM »

One of two things happened there.

Either you have just written the most intelligent and brilliant thing ever uttered and I am not smart enough to understand it. Or we have plunged to new depths and I would be able to garner a more intelligent conversation from an ocean sponge. Either way, I am unable to adjust my IQ by the full 100 points in either direction required to be able to assist you any further.