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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Experiment proposal
« on: February 24, 2021, 07:35:13 PM »
I just arrived in this thread but I would argue strongly that GPS are not fake, or hoaxed using radio towers.
Nobody is proposing that, nor is anyone discussing any properties of GPS (or, more accurately, RTK) other than the fact that it relies on electromagnetism, rather than mechanics. Perhaps it would help for you to read the thread prior to posting in it?

If people are claiming that our phones send out a signal and communicate with the GPS satellites
That's not even remotely what this thread is about. Regicide may have misspoken slightly, but it's absolutely not worth putting any time into which device signals which, and when - the nature of the signal is what matters.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Experiment proposal
« on: February 24, 2021, 07:23:33 PM »
There seems to be some severe misunderstanding of how GPS works in this thread.
You are mistaken.

If you have an argument to make, make it. There is absolutely no need to post basic videos with no explanation as to why you're posting them.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: An Idea for the flat earth cover-up
« on: February 23, 2021, 02:56:30 PM »
If I'm missing the point, perhaps you could explain it to me?
It's really quite bland - for most practical purposes, other than illustrating the RET model currently considered as factual, people tend not to use globes.

Yes, he used a little bit of hyperbole, but this really isn't worth splitting hairs over (especially by pointing people to dictionaries, even after it was explained to you why that doesn't work, and especially by pointing to terrible "dictionaries").

It's really hard to believe that you're not being disingenuous here, and if you are, then naturally you shouldn't be posting here.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: An Idea for the flat earth cover-up
« on: February 23, 2021, 02:18:16 PM »
According to the dictionary you are wrong.
I wonder, do you actually not understand Action80's point here?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: February 21, 2021, 10:28:05 PM »
As a non American, I assure you that the rest of the world is laughing at you far less now there’s a grown up in the White House.
I'm not sure citizens of Brexitville are the best judges of character out there. Indeed, I'd take the UK's opinion as a great bellwether for what not to believe.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Other Gravity Solutions
« on: February 21, 2021, 10:21:47 PM »
Why is there only one solution for gravity presented, which can't explain everything about ordinary modrel of gravity?
Please consider familiarising yourself with the basics of the Flat Earth Theory prior to posting here.


Flat Earth Community / Re: A working map of the Flat Earth
« on: February 18, 2021, 05:14:16 PM »
If you're moving longitude lines around and changing distances from what they are in reality
If you presume RET from the onset, then there is no point in you debating FET vs RET. In that case, you should probably leave the discussion to those who are interested.

Flat Earth Community / Re: A working map of the Flat Earth
« on: February 18, 2021, 02:12:18 PM »
So you're telling me of all the hundreds of thousands of FE believers in the world today, none of them is able to draw up a detailed map ?
Longitube is rather passionate about telling people that he thinks the Earth is round. Personally, I wouldn't put much stock in anything he says about FET. (And he knows better than to make these sort of comments here.)

The reality is that there are multiple competing models, some with a long history (and arguably mainstream), some rather new and original. You can find some of them at

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 18, 2021, 01:29:33 PM »
The reason it is getting ripped to shreds so much
It's not getting "ripped to shreds". A few betabunkers are upset with it because they never bothered to try to understand how it works. Your self-importance is clouding your judgement.

it is trying to be both
Well, it isn't. If you're trying to read it that way, I'm not surprised you're unhappy. Luckily, that's a problem you created for yourself, and thus you can fix it quite easily.

Perhaps unsurprisingly, satisfying you isn't our priority - our target audience is not sycophants who come here to tell us how round they think the Earth is, and we likely won't waste much time on them.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 18, 2021, 09:35:00 AM »
I'd say my broader point still stands
Your broader point is an abuse of my brevity. I haven't referred anyone to the Wiki - I told them to familiarise themselves with the basics. "I won't read the Wiki for you" could easily be substituted with "I won't do your homework for you" (Oh, but Pete, there is no homework section on this website! How could someone possibly do homework that doesn't exist? This is a very serious contradiction, and I will demand to discuss it now!), for example.

And, for people like RazaTD (who simply come down here and post a deluge of nonsensical questions they think are "gotchas"), the Wiki would be a good starting point. Sure, it's not perfect, and some branching out to old threads and other FE resources will be necessary, but gosh darn it if I waste any more time on your insincere defence of permanoobs permanoobing.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: February 17, 2021, 10:27:24 PM »

Flat Earth Theory / Re: The curve
« on: February 17, 2021, 06:27:51 PM »
Two things:
  • Metabunk, for all its cognitive flaws, is obviously not for profit, and we shouldn't make such accusations without strong evidence. This site gets hit with similar accusations on the regular, and it's really no fun to be on the receiving end.
  • As stack pointed out, this is a duplicate thread from a user who keeps ignoring the rules and failing to do even the most basic due diligence. Locked.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 17, 2021, 02:22:59 AM »
My point is that you told somebody to 'familiarise themselves with the wiki'
That wasn't quite my request, was it? Can we at the very least agree on the words that I wrote? Surely this isn't asking for much.

You may suggest Celestial Gravitation as the something.
I may not - that would crumble under even the most basic scrutiny, and, well, that's just not how I roll. It was RonJ who suggested that. You can make an educated guess as to how much time I want to spend on RonJ's delusions.

In RE gravity isn't just some vague hypothesis. It has a mathematical framework which is able to make predictions.
Predictions which we know to be false. By your logic, this rules out gravitation (please don't use it interchangeably with gravity - the distinction is crucial in this debate) as currently defined as the potential cause. Does that mean the Earth is flat? No. But it does mean we should probably stop acting as if gravitation was in any way a superior model. 

I have a math/physics degree, and my research is on mathematical modelling, particularly with the climate.

Ask me anything.
Dogs or cats?

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 15, 2021, 12:34:22 PM »
Before trashing people for not understanding the wiki, it would be helpful if you could collectively agree on a stance to take.
Why would we do that? Multiple competing models exist, and the Wiki's job is to document the past and present of the Flat Earth Theory. If you don't understand the purpose of the resource you're reading, you're going to have a bad time.

Some, like Tom, question the measurability of these effects as a whole. Others, like myself, propose an explanation, without necessarily disagreeing with Tom. If you have measured a variation in gravity, and if UA is true, then it is rather obvious that the variation you have measured did not come from UA, but rather gravitation. It's not a "problem with UA" as RE sycophants will gleefully claim, it's just an additional, external factor. This isn't complicated.

You will also note RonJ's immediate attempt at reframing the discussion - he moved away from "gravitational forces" to "the Sun and Moon", specifically, and others like Raza immediately fell for it. Anything to keep the fantasy going, I guess.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 13, 2021, 07:50:02 PM »
How does UA explain the observed fact that the downward acceleration is different on different parts of the Earth?
The variance in gravity is largely attributed to gravitational forces. Please, familiarise yourself with the basics before posting here. We're not to read out the Wiki out loud to you.

Or is everyone who has measured a different value in on the conspiracy?  ::)
If you want to shitpost, do so in the appropriate board. This is the third (and consequently last) time I will ask you so nicely.

Technology & Information / Re: No more reviews
« on: February 10, 2021, 05:41:05 PM »
Relax and calm down, Amazon isn't coming after you.
Amazon is coming after all of us, and is currently lobbying to form local government-equivalents in Nevada. I wouldn't put too much trust in them.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 09, 2021, 06:30:59 PM »
Okay, well, I've run out of things to say, and you're not responding to the things I have said. You now know why UA is the mainstream model (whether you choose to ignore it or not), how you can verify it to be true by yourself, and you've been informed that the offer I've made to you many years ago remains standing.

See you in a few months when you choose to start this subject from scratch again, I guess?

Flat Earth Community / Re: Is Earth Moving?
« on: February 09, 2021, 12:40:47 PM »
Pete, you are the one who is deliberately reframing the question... I am the one who framed the original question.
I was specifically responding to your claim of what is and isn't plausible. One position is easily verifiable, experimentally. The other is "it just happens, duh". Neither provides a source, or cause, so discussing superiority based on that is rather impossible. If you want to discard any model that doesn't explain where the effects of gravity come from, then you're pretty much left with RE's gravitation, with all of its problems.

You wouldn't be particularly happy with me if I told you UA is "just an inherent function of our universe", for the same reason the "things just fall" theory is not popular among FE'ers.

Meanwhile, my offer for you to document your alternative model remains standing - as it did for years. It's actually somewhat amusing how keen you are to talk about what FE is not, but how reluctant you are to simply have a write-up of yours published.

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