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Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: The Celestial Sphere
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:42:07 PM »

Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: Map Projections
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:41:14 PM »

Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: How do sunsets work?
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:40:51 PM »

Suggestions & Concerns / Ban policy discussion - abuse from organisations
« on: November 29, 2018, 06:07:05 PM »
So this is something that's been cropping up recently, and while I think we're justified in doing this under moderator discretion, I'd rather put it forward for our userbase to discuss.

Basically: every now and then a group of kids/university students/bored 9-5 workers decide it's a good idea to come here and abuse the forum. Usually, we end up getting a slow trickle of low-quality posters, often registering from the same IP (range) or e-mail addresses from the same institutional domain. Sometimes, it's a bit of a burden from a moderation perspective. Just yesterday I've had to ban Kingsway College School because new kids kept joining the forum just about as fast as I could clean up their posts. Today, it's Mariemont City Schools whose students had the same idea.

I suggest that, as a policy, we should reserve the right to temporarily block access from institutions whose members choose to abuse our forum. For example, if a group of schoolkids chooses to post about how the Earth is totally a cube (lacking the decency to do so in CN), we should have a well-defined right to ban that school for some time. Individual posters, of course, should still be handled separately to this - this is more an idea to throttle brigading a bit.

Obviously this is a very rough idea, and a lot of the specifics would have to be agreed, but I'd like to at least get an idea of whether or not this is something that users here would be willing to accept.

Announcements / On the notion of Logan Paul
« on: November 18, 2018, 05:35:09 PM »
As most of our regulars will be aware by now, YouTube celebrity Logan Paul has recently attended the Flat Earth International Conference in Denver and publicly voiced his support of the Flat Earth Movement. This announcement came as a surprise to most, given a complete lack of Logan's prior interest in the subject, and the nature of the content he usually produces. Understandably, this has raised a number of questions from the general public, and we have been repeatedly contacted with requests for comments.

As the organisers of FEIC have made abundantly clear on their own website, they are in no way affiliated with the Flat Earth Society. As such, we have no influence over who they invite to the conference or how they schedule their talks. While we respect all parts of the movement and wish them nothing but the best of luck, maintaining this distinction is particularly important in light of recent events.

As of the time of publishing this statement, the Flat Earth Society has not been in contact with Logan Paul or anyone acting as his representative, and we have no intention of offering him membership or otherwise affiliating with him or his recent statements. Any claims that Logan Paul is a member of the Flat Earth Society or that he may have been considered for membership are simply untrue.

Flat Earth Community / Logan Paul allegedly comes out as a Flat Earther
« on: November 17, 2018, 10:02:48 AM »
Logan Paul, a YouTuber famous for the fact that he's famous, claims to now be a Flat Earther.

I hope I'm not the only one who's extremely sceptical of this. My contentions with FEIC aside, Logan Paul has a long history of saying whatever controversial crap he thinks would get him more views on YouTube. A "surprise announcement" like this would be par for the course. Perhaps I'm over-reacting, but this just sounds fishy on so many levels.

Of course, as with every subject remotely connected to FET, people assume that we're directly linked. I propose that we put out an Announcement to the contrary. I'm not sure whether we should outright question his sincerity, or merely state that he has not been in contact with us and that we have no current intention of affiliating with him.


Announcements / Statement on recent BBC Ideas video
« on: November 09, 2018, 07:46:40 PM »
We have been approached by multiple members of the public and media organisations regarding BBC Ideas' recent video "What's behind denialism?", specifically the implicit suggestion that the Flat Earth Society has links to climate change or Holocaust deniers.

In response, we have reached out to the BBC who removed our logo from the video to avoid further misleading of the public. The Flat Earth Society, as an entity, prides itself in its commitment to counteracting climate change, and we are glad to see that the BBC has acknowledged their error by altering the material, although we regret the damage that's already been caused.

Any FES members who have been affected by this development are encouraged to get in touch with Pete who will be happy to answer your questions.

Flat Earth Media / MOVED: BBC slags off TFES again
« on: November 08, 2018, 06:11:41 PM »

Suggestions & Concerns / QED's permaban
« on: November 03, 2018, 09:40:50 AM »
Let's get weird. I'd like to question, and potentially appeal, QED's recent permaban. Before we begin, here's the post which, as far as I can tell, triggered the ban in this instance:

Whereas I do agree that I am probably the only pure zetetic here, I must admit that everything else you wrote is such complete crap that I cannot understand one single sentence of it.

Are you trying to sound smart? Don't do that. Instead, talk about the things you actually know. In doing this, you will talk to folks who know more than you do, and thus you will learn. Over the period of many years of doing this, you will learn a great deal. Then, you will find that you do not need to pretend to know shit: you will actually DO (if you get my meaning).

Indeed, you will soon see that knowing shit is not what is important. What is important is the ability to think. If you can think critically, then you can outshine most of the bullshit that is heaved your way. Of which there will be plenty, over the course of your life.


Well, it has been fun. Have a nice life.

I agree that there are some obvious issues with this post, but if you gloss over the first two or three sentences, the post reads as a passionate defence of Zetetic values and free thought. I also understand that many of his back-and-forths are idiotic, and that we shouldn't ignore that. However, he has recently been showing some signs of reform - many of his posts have a point to them, and the perspective he offers is often unique and interesting.

Junker, could you let me know your thoughts on this? I don't want to rush to any conclusions, but at face value this decision looks a bit too heavy-handed.

Flat Earth Theory / MOVED: Common RE Straw Men
« on: October 22, 2018, 11:52:55 AM »

Flat Earth Theory / MOVED: Common FE Straw Men
« on: October 22, 2018, 11:52:47 AM »

The Round Earth mindset has been a bit of a fascination of mine over the last few months. Recently, I've discussed some individuals' desire to reject information that doesn't match up with their imagination, specifically focusing on the GoPro photo taken from Everest which was floated about as "proof" of the Earth's rotundity. Hilariously, some RE proponents decided to reinforce my interpretation of their mindset by overreacting and demonstrating the very patterns I was accusing them of.

Anyway, it's time to dig into another story, one which has written itself while I wasn't paying attention. Back in March of 2018, everyone's favourite pop-scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson decided to publish a video on just how absurd the Flat Earth Theory is, in his mind.

Of course, most readers here will immediately notice one major issue: Neil has no clue what he's talking about, and I'm not just talking about his belief in RET. Neil forgot to RTFM.

But that's not new. We get people who failed to read the FAQ every day - NdGT's fame and wealth doesn't make him inherently more likely to educate himself before he opens his mouth. But this is where this story turns fun. An astute journalist at the Washington Post did read the FAQ, and while she managed to completely misunderstand some of what's been written, she successfully contrasted some of Neil's claims with our "nonsense" - pointing out that he's simply not addressing our claims.

Once again, we're left with a bleak image of society. Those who are supposed to lead the charge in educating the masses struggle to find it in themselves to actually research the subject they're intending to discuss, and prestigious journalistic outlets find it difficult to mount a more coherent response than "haha this is obviously stupid!"

But, as always, these dumpster fires ultimately end up advancing our cause. The WaPo article has recently resurged on social media, and people are noticing the lack of a credible response in the article. Ultimately, WaPo volunteered to act as a backlink farm for the Flat Earth Society. For that, I graciously thank them.

Flat Earth Investigations / MOVED: Discussing The Sun
« on: September 24, 2018, 04:11:44 PM »

Flat Earth Theory / MOVED: Flat Earth Theory
« on: September 05, 2018, 03:30:45 AM »

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