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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Questions on the FET

« on: December 16, 2017, 04:29:01 PM »

Your third question is the most obvious difficulty for flat earthers. And it appears that the only answer they are able to give is flat-out denials. Ships do not (appear to) arise. The sun does not rise and set. Cities do not rise revealing themselves beginning with the tops of the highest buildings as one approaches them on the ocean. There are no (apparent) risings and settings. Flat denials are all you will get.

I'm pretty sure there is tons written about all these things. If saying flat earthers deny as opposed to explain makes it easier for you to ignore and move on, then that's your choice. But there is lots of literature to explain all of these. Ships for example ... http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za32.htm

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Is there a reason to prefer one pole over the other as the center?

« on: December 16, 2017, 03:53:04 PM »

The geographic North Pole is the centre of the earth. The fabled Axis Mundi.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 09, 2017, 08:39:28 PM »

No further questions, your honour.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 09, 2017, 10:01:06 AM »

Yeah, no. The bit i don't understand is why you have to have a highly controlled OS for a one size fits all solution. On your laptop, run Chrome OS or Windows. Its a laptop. You are on a plane. What is the problem. You can watch a video or read your e-mails on any OS.

Thin client for your living room ... My smart TV runs from ... my NAS and runs off the plex server. So would my playstation if I owned one. The TV has a browser and can access all the files I'd need on it. I don't want to program in my living room. I'm only interested in content consumption in that room, not content creation.

Maintaining an OS ... again for content consumption most OS like Windows, MacOs, iOS, Android, Chrome OS etc have this thing called automatic update. They maintain themselves. Sure, sometimes something small goes awry, but it rarely stops you doing the basic things you do on such devices such as browse, listen to music and watch youtube.

Mailbox ... again you can get your mails from a regular NAS or cache out the last 50 or so like your mobile phone does.


I'm just not seeing this. Unless you are a business with lots of power users needing access for all devices, this isn't necessary. You'll always do 99% of your power user work on your desktop with the big monitor, your comfy computer chair and your expensive mouse mat. The rest of the time you are using a computer like joe public and just pushing a mouse about the desk or liberally swiping at a glossy screen.

Just say ... its my hobby and I'm doing it because I can. I'll be happy with that.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Inform me

« on: December 08, 2017, 08:30:42 PM »

So I was recently having a discussion with some others about the theory of the flat earth and some questions arose.
(These might have been asked before but I am new to this, so any reply would be greatly appreciated).
1. Lets say someone travels from Canada to Russia, do they have to go from one side of the planet to the other (assuming they aren't side by side like the modern day map projects)?
2. The north pole and south pole, are they just in their usual places (north and south).
3. How is visualization of the earth from areas in space observed as spherical yet it's theorized to be flat?
4. The 'original' earth structure (Pangea), does continental drift still apply to the flat earth?

1. Google 'polar azimuthal equidistant map'. You'll be most of the way there.
2. Google 'polar azi ...
3. No one has ever been to space so ...
4. I don't think continental drift is a thing. It relies on malevolent plumes of magma driving plates of crust around. I think entropy is a more likely suspect, with the land masses spreading themselves out equally before they eventually fall into the sea. Magma just being the friction heated rocks in this process. It makes no sense that all the continents get together, then split up, then get together again ... its just another unfounded theory from RErs.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 08, 2017, 08:20:31 PM »

I don't need it. My current computing environment is more than sufficient for what I need. I am simply interested in trying to make things better and more efficient.

I'll rephrase. I still don't know what you want it for? Like an example thing you want to do, that this set up and not something simpler would achieve. Now I'm just thinking illegal porn server, crypto exchange, illegal torrent server ... nothing good. This is your fault for being secretive.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Mars is Round?

« on: December 08, 2017, 08:10:33 PM »

So is earth's moon flat since it always presents the same face to the earth?  if the other planets are round, wouldn't that suggest round is the norm in planetary evolution and therefore the earth would be round too?

Thanks,
Chris

The earth isn't a planet. Planet is Greek for 'wandering star'. The earth is the only thing in the heavens, not wandering. It is fixed, flat and supports life. Truly unique.

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Announcements / Re: Changes to the merch store

« on: December 08, 2017, 08:07:25 PM »

I might be insane, but I'm not rich.

You strike me as exactly the sort of person who would have bought a few bitcoin back in the day. I'll bet you are wedged.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 08, 2017, 08:05:06 PM »

I'm still non the wiser what you need such a system for.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 08, 2017, 07:21:24 PM »

I can see the point of this if you have employees and you want them all on the same locked-down OS, but for personal use?

Surely distributed storage is all you need?

I think this is overkill, but its your hobby so knock yourself out. 


Also the bit you think I have backwards? Most of the devices I use connect via wifi. Again, that being the bottleneck. Caching serverside doesn't speed that up. So I put the cache in the device (my desktop and NUC). Everything else just runs at the speed of the NAS over wifi ... which is ok for a mobile phone or an iPad. I can stream video to my mobile for example and the NAS/wifi is OK to keep up. Its fine for consumer requirements.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 08, 2017, 06:17:06 PM »

Can I ask what you want this for?

I use my NAS as a mirrored (raid 1) back up server for my business, I stream videos from it using Plex and all my devices run back ups to it. I also use it as it has a wordpress plug in so I can mount client websites to it during development so that my slaves can ftp into it or mount on their filesystems. Its a really simple system, with low set up investment from a time perspective. Basically a personal cloud.

What do you intend to do with it that needs all these extra layers for?


PS- Red NAS drives aren't fast. They are reliable. You are paying for reliability, not performance.

Also, the NUC will not have any storage in it at all, since it isn't the file server.

My bad. I was thinking about my own requirements where I can access my NAS from anywhere including a coffee shop, and the limiting factor is wifi speed. Not drive speed. If your NUC is wired, no problem.

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Technology & Information / Re: Building a real distributed Plan 9 system

« on: December 08, 2017, 05:58:21 PM »

My 2 cents. Don't be filling it with cheap seagate drives. You are making a server with closely packed always on disks. Get NAS disks or you'll regret it down the line.
Western digital red are good. I have those on my NAS server.
https://www.wdc.com/products/internal-storage/wd-red.html


Cache ... I'd be tempted to lose the ssd cache and run optane. You already picked intel NUC ... optane is compatible. The read / write speeds on the 32Gb version are swift and intel's software for caching is very smart.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/optane-memory.html
If you have more money, the PCI optane drives are insanely fast. They also cost a fair bit more, but they piss all over any m2 ssd.
https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/products/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/gaming-enthusiast-ssds/optane-900p-series/900p-280gb-aic-20nm.html


Whilst you undoubtedly have your heart set on Plan 9, might I suggest you at least look at FreeNAS. Its open source, its free as in beer and speech and most importantly, it has tons of apps so you can get it running straight away such as Plex, itunes, mobile phone back ups, time machine if you have anything apple, all kinds of stuff. You can still hack the crap out of it yourself.

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Announcements / Re: Changes to the merch store

« on: December 08, 2017, 05:44:12 PM »

What if it is a hot item and we sell 400? Pete is still going to be sat in his bedroom with 200 snow globes.

Also, those snow globes are $56 each. Are you expecting Pete to front $33,600 on snow globes? He might be eccentric, but he isn't insane.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: New merchandise ideas

« on: December 07, 2017, 12:47:38 AM »

Possibly. Then again, we all know what happens when you let people automatically generate stuff.

By the way, I just wanted to say well done on your epic Elon Musk tweet. You were on 'Have I got news for you' on the BBC this week (you probably know that). That's some awesome publicity. :-)

You're on at about 20 mins, with that guy that wants to boil himself in a steam powered rocked whilst proving the earth to be flat.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09j12f8/have-i-got-a-bit-more-news-for-you-series-54-episode-8

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Most people are flat earthers most of the time

« on: December 05, 2017, 10:56:05 PM »

Surveyors make mistakes. They aren't holier-than-thou. They rush stuff, they round, they bodge ... and you end up with stuff like this.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/is-millennium-tower-safe-still-leaning-sinking-2017-9?op=1&r=US&IR=T/#millennium-tower-rises-58-stories-above-san-franciscos-financial-district-1

If you can't even make sure you aren't building on a swamp, you certainly aren't concerned with earth's shape.

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Announcements / Re: Flat-Earth Theory Rockets Forward

« on: December 05, 2017, 10:31:29 PM »

I really hope he doesn't claim that he "didn't see curvature" or something so "the earth is therefor flat," because as someone else previously mentioned, you have to reach around 100,000 feet or so for "Curvature" to appear.
If he tries to make such a claim, we will get lot's of bad publicity.

No such thing as bad publicity, mate. Its more Twitter followers, more forum activity, more Facebook likes, more power. I couldn't give a monkeys if this guy is boiled alive in that thing. He painted 'flat earth' on the side of it, and that's headlines.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: New merchandise ideas

« on: December 05, 2017, 10:23:09 PM »

You could always set up a small test, that prints a certificate.

You ask 20 random questions, multiple guess. If the person gets 17 or more correct, they can download an achievement/membership certificate. If they got 17 right, they must have heard of Rowbotham, they must know what about the ice-wall, they have to have heard of moonshramp, else how else did they pass the test? Now its less meaningless. You at least know your schtick so you get a reward to stick on your fridge.