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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015
« on: March 27, 2015, 08:17:51 PM »

How did Columbus know where the SolarLunar Eclipse would happen in America if only the date can be predicted but not the location?

Considering a lunar eclipse can be viewed from anywhere the moon is visible, then it is not very important where you are.  It is different in the case of a solar eclipse.

Columbus predicted a Solar Eclipse.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015
« on: March 27, 2015, 06:50:31 PM »
Thork answered how the solar eclipses are predicted.
No, he did not. He talked about the prediction of the dates of eclipses. I was talking about the path where the full eclipse would be visible (see this link). This path was calculated with a model of the solar system with a round earth (and round moon, round sun). And the question is: how is it that this RET-based calculation worked?

You failed again at answering my question. (And probably at simply understanding it).

How did Columbus know where the Solar Eclipse would happen in America if only the date can be predicted but not the location?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015
« on: March 24, 2015, 08:10:37 PM »
Thork answered how the solar eclipses are predicted.

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Pain is also a gauge for how healthy you are, tells you whether the therapy you are trying is working, and whether you should try something new. Why would you want to hide it and treat your condition blindly?

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This might be off-topic, but I'm interested in your opinion Tom.

What do you think about the beneficial effects of marijuana for pain and other ailments? It seems to have a lot of practical purposes. I am only asking because you seem very skeptical of modern medicine, and since marijuana is a natural alternative I figured you might have some insight on the subject.

I would rather have something that actually fixes the issue, than something that merely masks the pain. If there is no pain, then there is not much encouragement to keep trying new things until your issue is resolved. Pain is a very powerful motivator. I would rather keep the pain and continue trying natural things until my issues were resolved.


How does pain motivate you to stop having cancer?

If you were in excruciating pain you would be a little more motivated to try a promising Vitamin C IV therapy which promises to be a natural cure for cancer. If that didn't work, you would try the hydrogen peroxide cure for cancer. The pain stops when the cancer starts going away. That's motivation to try and do anything. If you were high on pot and comfortable you would be complacent to leave the matter for your normal doctors to deal with, with their high-mortality radiation and poisons.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 23, 2015, 06:09:30 AM »
You didn't answer my question. Who used that rope method to measure the speed of a ship across an ocean?[/url]

Someone did it constantly all the way across an ocean? ???

???  How does a tube that measures the speed of a fluid tell you how fast you're traveling in that fluid?  Is that the question that you're asking?  Seriously? 

Considering that air is in motion, and a plane is in motion, sticking a tube out of your airplane to measure the speed of the air seems pretty unreliable in telling you how fast you are moving. How does the device tell what is the wind and what is the plane?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 22, 2015, 08:05:14 PM »
You didn't answer my question. Who used that rope method to measure the speed of a ship across an ocean?

And I looked at your link. How does a tube that measures the speed of the air outside your plane tell you how fast your plane is traveling?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 22, 2015, 06:02:56 PM »
If "distances are verifiable," please tell us how ships and airplanes measure distance. If you are the captain of a vessel, sailing on an endless ocean, what is the tool your ship would use analogous to an odometer? Is there some kind of device that goes into the water and spins with the current as the ship sails forward?

No, there is no such device.
Actually there is. It's called a rope (along with a timer and a log book).
“With no landmarks to gauge their progress across the open sea, sailors couldn’t tell how fast or how far they were traveling,” explains Camila Caballero, an MIT senior and the academic coordinator for Amphibious Achievement, an athletic and academic outreach program for urban youth in Boston. But when the nautical mile – 1.852 kilometers – was introduced in the 15th century, they had a handy standard against which to measure speed and created out of necessity the chip log, the world’s first maritime speedometer. “They used materials they had on hand,” she explains. “A wedge-shaped piece of wood, a small glass timer, and a really long rope.”

But not just any rope would do. Based on the length of the nautical mile, knots were tied along the log line at intervals of 14.4 meters. One end was secured to the ship’s stern and the other was attached to the wooden board, which was dropped into the water. “As one sailor watched the sand empty through the 30-second glass, his shipmate held the line as it played out behind the ship and counted the knots as they passed between his fingers,” says Caballero. Dividing that 14.4 meters by 30 seconds told them that one knot equaled 1.85166 kilometers per hour, or one nautical mile. By performing the calculation using the actual number of knots that unspooled, the sailors were able to measure the ship’s speed.
When you multiply speed by time, you get distance.

Who has done that across a ocean?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 21, 2015, 09:42:27 PM »
There are only a few different types of boat speedometers.  One has a little prop which spins in the water flow and electronics convert spin speed to boat speed. Another type uses doppler echo into the water and computes boat speed from result. But they are all pretty inaccurate. Speed through the water is meaningless due to slip, set, and drift.

here is currently no reliable method of gauging one's speed at sea or in the air.

speed can be calculated from the capabilities of the ship and from reference to any stationary observer (such as another ship, or land, etc).

"Capabilities of the ship"? What does that mean? What makes you think that a ship would be running at the max all the way across an ocean? That's a good way to blow out your engine and get stranded. If there were no speed limits, would you drive your car at its max speed at all times?

Secondly, there is no one making observational measurements in comparison to stationary bodies for a ship that goes across an ocean.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 21, 2015, 09:21:18 PM »
There are only a few different types of boat speedometers.  One has a little prop which spins in the water flow and electronics convert spin speed to boat speed. Another type uses doppler echo into the water and computes boat speed from result. But they are all pretty inaccurate. Speed through the water is meaningless due to slip, set, and drift.

There is currently no reliable method of gauging one's speed at sea or in the air.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 21, 2015, 09:06:09 PM »
If "distances are verifiable," please tell us how ships and airplanes measure distance. If you are the captain of a vessel, sailing on an endless ocean, what is the tool your ship would use analogous to an odometer? Is there some kind of device that goes into the water and spins with the current as the ship sails forward?

No, there is no such device. A ship gets its position by figuring out his longitude and latitude in some way and looking at a map which shows the coordinates of the destination location. If his Latitude is 71 and he needs to be at 72.5, he keeps sailing until he gets there. In the past the latitude and longitude could be figured out by looking at the stars. Modernly, it is gathered by looking at GPS coordinates (which is still just based on the star position-based latitude/longitude of old). The captain is merely looking at his coordinates and pointing his ship on a path to get to the coordinates he needs to be at. There is no direct measurement of the earth whatsoever.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Size of the Inner Hemiplane
« on: March 21, 2015, 03:30:06 PM »
Vauxhall is correct. What reason is there to believe that the FE is circular rather than oval?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015
« on: March 18, 2015, 09:59:23 PM »
Equations for finding the lunar eclipse can be found at the end of the Lunar Eclipse chapter of Earth Not a Globe by Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

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This might be off-topic, but I'm interested in your opinion Tom.

What do you think about the beneficial effects of marijuana for pain and other ailments? It seems to have a lot of practical purposes. I am only asking because you seem very skeptical of modern medicine, and since marijuana is a natural alternative I figured you might have some insight on the subject.

I would rather have something that actually fixes the issue, than something that merely masks the pain. If there is no pain, then there is not much encouragement to keep trying new things until your issue is resolved. Pain is a very powerful motivator. I would rather keep the pain and continue trying natural things until my issues were resolved.

Tell you what Tom, now is not the time for you to expose the truth. Let's wait when vaccines are exposed for the fraud they are, then you can drop the bombshell that modern medicine does not know what they are doing. How they culture virus in a totally different way than bacteria, how they separate the virus from cells, all of it pure hogwash. In fact, I think it is pure chance that the measles vaccine causes 90+% immunity. I hope you see the wisdom in sharing your special knowledge at the right time and place.

How do they culture viruses totally different than bacteria?

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If anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-parasitical treatments do not work, but viral vaccination does, what is a likely conclusion to draw?

What makes you think that existing anti-fungal and anti-bacterial drugs are adequate? Have you ever heard of Lyme Disease? It's a very strong and clever, systemic bacterium which cannot be defeated with antibiotics, unless antibiotics are given very early. There is no cure for people with Lyme which has progressed into stages of Fibromyalgia, which causes widespread, unexplained pain in muscles and joints. The only thing that can fight it is the immune system.

Secondly, there is nothing about vaccinations which make them specific only to viruses.

http://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/how_vaccines_work.htm

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A vaccine contains a killed or weakened part of a germ that is responsible for infection. Because the germ has been killed or weakened before it is used to make the vaccine, it can not make the person sick. When a person receives a vaccine, the body reacts by making protective substances called "antibodies". The antibodies are the body's defenders because they help to kill off the germs that enter the body. In other words, vaccines expose people safely to germs, so that they can become protected from a disease but not come down with the disease.

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Stefan Lanka has a point. From his website:

http://neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm

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The images of the so called HIV-, measles (Masern)- and smallpox (Pocken) viruses clearly show, as the image descriptions  partly already indicate, that these are cells wherein the viruses can allegedly be found.

If the measles virus cannot be isolated, and we are just shown pictures of cells which are assumed to be infected with a virus in medical literature, how are we to know whether the mechanism is truly viral in nature rather than bacterial, fungal, parasitical, or a combination thereof?

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I don't understand. Did Tom up to this point not understand what an age is? Otherwise this is some weird new form of trolling where no one actually argues with you.

Yesterday you believed that you were as old as your age was. Today you learned that, because no one counts the year between 0 and 1, you are actually one year older than you thought you were.

No, Tom. Your age just refers to the number of years you have completed. Everybody understands this. Nobody thinks they're exactly 25 years old for the duration of their 25th year.

You are not 25 years old at any point during the year where you are calling yourself 25 years old. Your 25 years are over and you are in your 26th year.

You have completed 25 full years when you're 25. If I understand correctly, you think somebody should be called 25 if they've completed 24 full years, and that a newborn infant should be called one year old as soon as they're born. That makes less sense. We round down, not up.

People just have it wrong. When you say that "I am 25 and 1/2 today," how does that make sense if you have, in truth, lived 26 and 1/2 years?

But you haven't, unless you're including time spent in the womb or something. When you arrive at your 25th birthday, you have been alive for exactly 25 years.

When you arrive at your 25th birthday you have lived 25 full years on the day prior, and therefore cannot be 25 any more. You are 26. Those 25 years are over and gone. The phrase "I'm 25" does not make any sense. You are not currently 25 during your 25th year.

If we had three cans of corn labelled 0, 1, and 2, would you say that we have two cans or three?

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I don't understand. Did Tom up to this point not understand what an age is? Otherwise this is some weird new form of trolling where no one actually argues with you.

Yesterday you believed that you were as old as your age was. Today you learned that, because no one counts the year between 0 and 1, you are actually one year older than you thought you were.

No, Tom. Your age just refers to the number of years you have completed. Everybody understands this. Nobody thinks they're exactly 25 years old for the duration of their 25th year.

You are not 25 years old at any point during the year where you are calling yourself 25 years old. Your 25 years are over and you are in your 26th year.

You have completed 25 full years when you're 25. If I understand correctly, you think somebody should be called 25 if they've completed 24 full years, and that a newborn infant should be called one year old as soon as they're born. That makes less sense. We round down, not up.

People just have it wrong. When you say that "I am 25 and 1/2 today," how does that make sense if you have, in truth, lived 26 and 1/2 years?

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I don't understand. Did Tom up to this point not understand what an age is? Otherwise this is some weird new form of trolling where no one actually argues with you.

Yesterday you believed that you were as old as your age was. Today you learned that, because no one counts the year between 0 and 1, you are actually one year older than you thought you were.

No, Tom. Your age just refers to the number of years you have completed. Everybody understands this. Nobody thinks they're exactly 25 years old for the duration of their 25th year.

You are not 25 years old at any point during the year where you are calling yourself 25 years old. Your 25 years are over and you are in your 26th year all through that year.

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And the award for the most reaching response goes to...

It's clearly a "if I had a nickel" analogy. You can't blame the Speaker if it went over your head.

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