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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 01:38:29 PM »

The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.

The teaching of any sex techniques is relatively new in the American school system.
It’s certainly debatable what should be taught in this area, but unless homosexual techniques are being taught as preferable to heterosexual ones then how is it an agenda? Because you don’t personally agree with homosexuality?

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Flat Earth alternative to a globe

« Last post by Dual1ty on Today at 01:15:16 PM »

I'm more partial to this version as it distorts the southern hemiplane continents less:

I don't know how you found this, but I actually love it. It's a lot closer to reality than the AE map, that's for sure.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?

« Last post by Dual1ty on Today at 09:33:23 AM »

Son, if all you have is the credibility argument, all that does is support my point. Credibility is just another word for believing. It literally comes from the latin CREDO (creed). Believing belongs to religion, not science. Thank you for supporting my point.

You are so close to an epiphany.
All you need to do now is understand that pretty much everything you are stating is also merely a belief based on what you find credible.
There is no difference between “believing” something and “knowing” it, other than your own perceived certainty. Truth exists independently of your beliefs.

Believing doesn’t “belong” to science or religion. Cogito ergo sum, basically. You know you exist, everything else you think you know is simply based on evidence and what you find credible. There is, of course, a difference between blind belief and evidence based belief. I have outlined the evidence for believing NASA’s claims, you have ignored it all and presented nothing but an argument from incredulity.

LOL. If truth exists independently of beliefs, how is there not a difference between believing and knowing other than subjective certainty? See? You're not making any sense.

There is a difference between blind belief and evidence based belief, but evidence based belief is the reason that innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn't commit, all the time. That's what you're supporting.

Of course I'm incredulous of anything NASA produces. That's actually a compliment. Thank you.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?

« Last post by Dual1ty on Today at 09:25:36 AM »

No, I don't need to dance when you tell me to dance. If anything you should be the one dancing for me because you are the reality denier. Nothing personal, though.

If you do not care to support your claims with evidence, nobody cares to pay attention to your claims. If this is how it will be, our conversation will end here because I am not going to drag this on to end up nowhere new.

But are they MY claims, though? No, they're not. They are objective claims which have been discussed hundreds of times before. That's what you're not understanding.

Since I no longer have the video, it can only be an anecdotal point, and that is what it was - I never claimed it was anything beyond an anecdote. You asked "What has led you to believe that NASA is so incredible?" and that was part of the answer.

You made an assertion that there was a CGI glitch in the video. Even though you cannot find the video now, you still never shared the evidence that the video had a CGI glitch that you had at that time. Or... maybe you had no evidence? Maybe you were only seeing the video from a viewpoint that fits your narrative? Coming up with baseless conclusions about things?

That doesn't compute because back then I didn't have a narrative other than my faith in heliocentrism and the globe. But nowadays I don't have a narrative either, I just go by facts.

The point is that's not a good example to debunk the claim that NASA fakes stuff. Like at all. It's not good to use it as evidence that NASA fakes stuff, either. It's just something curious that happened and could be interpreted a certain way, but it's not evidence of anything.

I'm sorry it doesn't fit your standards. I will do better next time, your highness.

I don't think it fits anyone's standards. It's just a video of a little girl talking to Buzz. Where's the evidence about NASA faking stuff? Maybe if Buzz had said "we faked it" or "we can't go there" it would be different.

You don't need to tell me "good job", I'm not a dog. But if you think it's an unsupported claim, that's your opinion. I'm not obliged to support my claims every time I make a claim (it's not like Earth not being a spinning globe is my personal subjective claim anyway), and I'm certainly not obliged to provide anything to you specifically just because you have this notion that me not doing that proves your beliefs right somehow.

No, it's not my opinion that your claim was unsupported. You quite literally made the assertion and followed with no evidence. What type of support is that? While you're not obliged to support your claims, you should have 0 expectations for anybody to take your claims seriously without evidence. I do not have the notion that your lack of evidence proves my beliefs. I do, however, strongly believe that your lack of evidence for your claims invalidates them as of this moment.

Again, not my claim.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« Last post by Dual1ty on Today at 08:50:57 AM »

And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

Speaking of which - they also teach about dinosaurs and all kinds of absurdities in middle school. I'm pretty sure that's why he wrote that book. To me that's more important than 1 hour of sex ed that incorporates anal talk, but ok, this thread is about the gender bender agenda. I'm just saying that to me the absurdities that get taught to middle schoolers in the reality of a forced classroom environment are more important than half an hour of high school anal talk.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 08:18:11 AM »

Son, if all you have is the credibility argument, all that does is support my point. Credibility is just another word for believing. It literally comes from the latin CREDO (creed). Believing belongs to religion, not science. Thank you for supporting my point.

You are so close to an epiphany.
All you need to do now is understand that pretty much everything you are stating is also merely a belief based on what you find credible.
There is no difference between “believing” something and “knowing” it, other than your own perceived certainty. Truth exists independently of your beliefs.

Believing doesn’t “belong” to science or religion. Cogito ergo sum, basically. You know you exist, everything else you think you know is simply based on evidence and what you find credible. There is, of course, a difference between blind belief and evidence based belief. I have outlined the evidence for believing NASA’s claims, you have ignored it all and presented nothing but an argument from incredulity.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?

« Last post by Pete Svarrior on Today at 07:53:07 AM »

No, my argument is that if NASA were faking it then they would have to do a very good job of catching and fixing their mistakes before they make into their public archive lest they get caught and shut down.

That is not functionally different from my interpretation of your argument. Crucially, nothing you said supports this version either. The core issue remains: you make boisterous claims about the quality of outcome, but your best supporting argument is "teehee they'd probably try, right?"

Substantiate or GTFO.

If that's how you feel, then feel free to not waste your time and just don't engage.

No, markjo. When I suggested we release you from Purgatory, that was conditional on you not returning to your old posting habits in the upper. If you can't behave, you won't post. You've already had your final warning on this issue, so let's call this a polite reminder.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: There is no LGBT agenda within the government.

« Last post by Tom Bishop on Today at 05:52:51 AM »

Former president Abraham Lincoln was not given lessons on homosexual anal play in his American school system. American Jazz musician Louis Armstrong was not taught how to stimulate prostates. And nor was Jurassic Park writer Michael Crichton taught the ins and outs of LGBT sex acts as part of his curriculum.

The question in the OP was whether a LGBT agenda was being promoted, not whether you agree with it. The teaching of homosexual sex techniques is a new phenomenon the American school system, and is further evidence with all of the other items of a LGBT agenda. Whether you agree with anal stimulation techniques being taught in school is irrelevant to that.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: New Photos of Moon suggest Flat Earth?

« Last post by markjo on Today at 03:22:01 AM »

To remind you: your argument is that if NASA were faking it, they necessarily must successfully do so without making mistakes. Whether or not they're trying to avoid mistakes is entirely immaterial.

No, my argument is that if NASA were faking it then they would have to do a very good job of catching and fixing their mistakes before they make into their public archive lest they get caught and shut down.

Markjo, how things "seem" to you is really close to the bottom of just about everyone's priority list.

If that's how you feel, then feel free to not waste your time and just don't engage.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Dr Van Nostrand on Today at 01:24:22 AM »

So apparently Trump's day 1 promise is to invalidate the constitution with an executive order.


So.... Fun!

The scary part is that his mindless followers love that shit and will give their lives for it. It could win the Republican nomination.