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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Coincidence investigation, possible FE clue
« Last post by DuncanDoenitz on January 26, 2022, 11:31:09 PM »


I left my camera to create an exposed shot to capture on its own; that doesn't mean that I didn't try it a bunch of times, that I didn't go to great lengths to create artificially good conditions, or that I didn't put it through extensive editing to unnaturally make what I wanted.
What exactly are "artificially good conditions"?  Do you mean "with precision"?   

I have a precision timepiece.  The drawback is that it only tells the correct time if I set it with precision or, perhaps in your vernacular, "artificially good conditions". 
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Where is Google Maps wrong?
« Last post by jimster on January 26, 2022, 10:45:07 PM »
I saw a youtube video of a couple sailing across the Atlantic. They used a sextant to shoot the sun at noon and calculate their position. The calculation came within a few miles of what they saw on their cell phone gps. People have been doing this since the invention of the chronometer. Here is how to do it:

https://princetonastronomy.com/2020/05/01/solar-observations-with-a-sextant/

Basically, the angle of the sun above the horizon gives your latitude, and the time (related to GMT) gives your longitude. This works on FE or RE the same way, although the numbers in the chart would be different.

I know a man who was in the Air Force and was a flight engineer on MATS cargo flights all over the world. When I told him that someone said "no one knows the distance or where you are over the ocean", he laughed. They flew regularly to the Azores, tiny islands in a very big Atlantic, you really want to get this right, or you have to swim hundreds of miles. The flight engineer was responsible for engine settings and fuel load. He needs this right, or you run out of gas in the Atlantic. He was cross trained as pilot and navigator to some degree.

They had several ways of knowing where they were:

1. Dead reckoning, least accurate, subject to wind error, as Tom Bishop says.
2. Triangulation with known radio stations and a directional antenna. You may have seen military aircraft with a circular antenna sicking out above the fuselage, that is what it is for.
3. Loran, the ground based predecessor of gps. check youtube videos for how it worked.
4. Sextant, as explained above. That is what the plexiglass bubble on top of the fuselage of military aircraft of the 1940s, C-47, B-17, B-24.

He said they always knew where they were, always successfully found their destination, many many times, never ran out of gas. He said the wind had some unknown impact on them, hence the importance of knowing where they were. He also said they knew roughly what the wind would be, needed for fuel load planning. Amazingly to Tom Bishop, all methods gave the same answer to within a few miles. Otherwise, you are in the middle of the Atlantic, short of fuel, and no idea where you are?

If Tom Bishop is right, I am never going to vacation in Hawaii. Does the pilot of an airliner take off for Hawaii knowing he has no idea how far it is, just points the plane in the same direction as last time and it always seems to get there? Amazing, especially with unknown winds that must be hundreds of mph to make the Sydney to Santiago flights work, perhaps in both directions at the same time, or maybe the flights are on different days of the week because they experienced the winds one way on Wed and the other way on Fri? What if the wind blows you off course north and south, seems like the wind would have to blow exactly towards your destination, or north south error.

There is astral navigation, radio navigation, dead reckoning, but per Tom Bishop, the only possible possible technique is "worked last time, cross your fingers". Are the insurance companies aware of this? Of course, it seems to be 100% reliable method, airliners always find Hawaii. Pretty small dot in a very bog ocean, with hundreds of mph winds going unknown directions.

And none of the pilots know, and none of them tell anyone? The pilot and navigator faked it and pretended when they told the flight engineer where they were? They always found the Azores, he never ditched out of fuel.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Coincidence investigation, possible FE clue
« Last post by jimster on January 26, 2022, 09:00:42 PM »
"I've never seen a camera with an equally powerful lens as an astronomical telescope. Who knew that telescope manufacturers were unnecessarily making their telescopes so large when they could pack it down into a small package and get equal results, as indicated by someone's claim on an internet forum. ::)" - Tom Bishop

The Hale telescope at Mount Palomar has no eyepiece. It is impossible to look through it as a telescope, all you can do is take pictures. Is it a telescope or a camera?

The pictures it takes require long exposures, thus an EQ mount is necessary. A large "horseshoe mount" has a motor on ti to power it at 1 rev per day, aka 15 degrees per hour. The mount is aligned to be parallel to the earth's axis. Look it up, really fascinating 1935 tech. Still used today by CalTech, UC, Cornnell, and JPL. The FAQ says "small conspiracy", but if the earth is flat they must all be some combination of stupid and/or liars.

All major astronomical telescopes use cameras, for at least 3 reasons. 1 - permamnent record for sharing and further study, 2 - film/digital can do long exposure for dimmer objects, the human eye can't, and 3- time on these telescopes is valuable, you submit request to take pic of something, they stack them up one after the other to get the most out of the telescope. I expect there is close to zero astronomers putting their eyes to a telescope and staring. Besides, they probably use spectrographs, infrared, ultraviolet, etc, to study things that are outside the wavelengths the human eye can see.

When mars was unusually close and thus the largest it ever appears, a local astronomy club had a public meeting where they lined up their telescopes from small to large, all with EQ mounts and 1 rpd motors. We looked through the eyepieces, smallest to largest, and each one you could see mars a little better. The last one had no eyepiece, it had a CCD that connected to a laptop through usb. So that telescope, you looked at a laptop screen. It used eq mount to get exactly the same image as the eyepiece telescopes, although bigger and more detailed.

I doubt that modern telescopes use film cameras any more. Why bother with developing and cost, just get a shareable permanent image in a file. Here are a bunch of digital cameras made to screw on to telescope eyepiece mounts:

https://www.highpointscientific.com/telescope-accessories/astro-photography/ccd-cameras

Telescope/cameras that are physically larger collect more light and so can see dimmer objects. This is why owls and other night hunters have big eyes. The only part of the telescope that can't be miniaturized with adequate results is the optics. You can make a tiny telescope/camera, but it won;t see very much. Your cell phone is a telescope, just set it to magnify. It's not a good one, but you can buy an external lens and make it betterm or even better, mount your cell phone to a telescope:



A telescope is, or can be a camera. A single lens reflex camera allows the photographer to look through the same lens as the film (or CCD) will see, with a telephoto lens , it is literally both a telescope and a camera.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by junker on January 26, 2022, 05:47:25 PM »
Rama reminds me of Jon Lajoie.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by Rama Set on January 26, 2022, 05:40:52 PM »
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That's avatar material right there, just saying.

Also, I know you know this already, but Thork is wrong about everything, all the time, on purpose.

I am not convinced about how volitional he is.

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Take his criticisms as compliments.

I absoutely did.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by Pete Svarrior on January 26, 2022, 05:12:03 PM »
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That's avatar material right there, just saying.

Also, I know you know this already, but Thork is wrong about everything, all the time, on purpose. Take his criticisms as compliments.
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by Rama Set on January 26, 2022, 04:40:46 PM »
The second run was way better, I see what you mean by big energy.

It just frees everything up.

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Also my mom's name is Cheryl.  >:(

Tell her I say "what's up".
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by rooster on January 26, 2022, 04:35:59 PM »
The second run was way better, I see what you mean by big energy.

Also my mom's name is Cheryl.  >:(
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by Rama Set on January 26, 2022, 04:09:58 PM »
Well you've ruled out comedy. I guess you are quickly eliminating your weaknesses so this is great progress.

There is a good chance you didn't understand what you were watching, so you will understand that I don't take you seriously.
There is an equally good chance that your last video was 💩

Thanks for the input.  Now can you go admit you were wrong about vaccination in australia already, or do you just feel like running all day?
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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Rama Does Acting
« Last post by Dr David Thork on January 26, 2022, 04:06:13 PM »
Well you've ruled out comedy. I guess you are quickly eliminating your weaknesses so this is great progress.

There is a good chance you didn't understand what you were watching, so you will understand that I don't take you seriously.
There is an equally good chance that your last video was 💩