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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 02, 2024, 09:53:31 AM »Action80: Testemony and records of forgery does not mean a crime of forgery.
I think this is the right place for this.
Are you aware of The Final Experiment?
https://www.the-final-experiment.com/
The aim is to send one globe earther and one flat earther to Antarctica to observe the 24 hour sun - which would be an issue for the monopole model. Or, if it doesn't occur would be an issue for the globe.
They have invited high profile people from both sides to participate - I didn't actually see anyone from here on the list, I think they're mostly going for YouTubers.
They say they're going to provide the funding for one person from each side, but others can join at their own expense - it was something like $30,000, so not cheap.
Any thoughts on this? Would any of you have liked to be invited or would be interested in going? Do you think this is a good experiment? If you observed the 24 hour sun in Antarctica would that change your mind about FE or would it just steer you towards a different FE model like the bi-polar one?
New Yorkers serving as jurors have some sort of clue regarding evidence? Even persons serving as magistrates and prosecutors in that area have no clue.What evidence? There is no evidence he committed a single felony, let alone 34, related to a single incident.I think it was the evidence that the jury just finished considering before finding him guilty on all 34 counts. So that evidence
This is an often repeated phrase now, "a convicted felon", but who really cares? Would Democrats vote for a "convicted felon"? The answer is yes. Would Republicans? I think it's obviously also yes.
I don't think there is a single person that was voting for Trump and switched to Biden after the verdict. Trump voters see it as a sham trial that reinforces Trump's "deep state" narrative. Biden voters weren't going to vote for Trump, even if he wasn't found guilty. The outcome of the trial quite simply didn't matter. It was already baked into existing polls.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnll59r891xoQuotePolls indicate he is in a statistical dead heat with President Joe Biden and maintains a slight edge in many key swing states that will decide the election. But those surveys also provide evidence that this conviction might change all of that.
In exit polls conducted during the Republican primaries this winter, double-digit numbers of voters said that they would not vote for the former president if he were convicted of a felony.
An April survey by Ipsos and ABC News found that 16% of those backing Trump would reconsider their support in such a situation.
This is an often repeated phrase now, "a convicted felon", but who really cares? Would Democrats vote for a "convicted felon"? The answer is yes. Would Republicans? I think it's obviously also yes.
I don't think there is a single person that was voting for Trump and switched to Biden after the verdict. Trump voters see it as a sham trial that reinforces Trump's "deep state" narrative. Biden voters weren't going to vote for Trump, even if he wasn't found guilty. The outcome of the trial quite simply didn't matter. It was already baked into existing polls.
Polls indicate he is in a statistical dead heat with President Joe Biden and maintains a slight edge in many key swing states that will decide the election. But those surveys also provide evidence that this conviction might change all of that.
In exit polls conducted during the Republican primaries this winter, double-digit numbers of voters said that they would not vote for the former president if he were convicted of a felony.
An April survey by Ipsos and ABC News found that 16% of those backing Trump would reconsider their support in such a situation.
The number of moderates that were deciding who to vote for based entirely on the outcome of a porn star payoff trial is precisely zero. If you were voting for Trump, the outcome of the trial didn't matter. If you weren't voting for Trump, the outcome of the trial didn't matter.Not entirely. But the fact Trump is now a convicted felon isn’t going to make anyone reconsider? I’m not saying you’re wrong but it would be a bit weird if this wasn’t a factor for anyone