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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by AATW on Today at 05:43:55 AM »
He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

Then why haven't you expressed your sympathies or sadness like a normal person would do in the two posts you've made about this now?
So you agree that Trump’s comments are indefensible and are reduced to changing the subject and a weak attempt at whataboutism.
Good to know.

I’m not the POTUS and haven’t been asked for comment. Trump has. So let me try again. What do you think of Trump’s comments? And do you agree that his repeated use of the phrase “stage 9” demonstrates his own cognitive decline? Which is ironic when being given the opportunity to express sympathy for another human he instead switches to boasting about his own health.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on May 20, 2025, 10:59:27 PM »
He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

Then why haven't you expressed your sympathies or sadness like a normal person would do in the two posts you've made about this now?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by AATW on May 20, 2025, 09:13:05 PM »
What the utter fuck is he talking about?



Twice he says Biden has "stage 9" cancer, which isn't a thing, while saying how well he'd done on his cognitive tests.
The rest is an utter ramble. He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on May 20, 2025, 06:44:47 PM »
It could be that we’re all wrong about why Qatar wants to “gift” the luxury 747 to Trump.  It seems that they’re just trying to get rid of the damned thing.
While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

So... A white elefant gift?
A gift horse with bad teeth?
No.  A white elefant is a gift you give someone you dislike but don't want to seem like you do.  A white elefant is delicate and requires alot of money to keep alive.  It's a very expensive pet.  And it's bad form to get rid of gifts so... You get a white elefant, you're gonna be paying for it.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on May 20, 2025, 06:17:17 PM »
It could be that we’re all wrong about why Qatar wants to “gift” the luxury 747 to Trump.  It seems that they’re just trying to get rid of the damned thing.
While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

So... A white elefant gift?
A gift horse with bad teeth?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on May 20, 2025, 05:00:47 PM »
It could be that we’re all wrong about why Qatar wants to “gift” the luxury 747 to Trump.  It seems that they’re just trying to get rid of the damned thing.
While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.

So... A white elefant gift?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on May 20, 2025, 03:46:37 PM »
It could be that we’re all wrong about why Qatar wants to “gift” the luxury 747 to Trump.  It seems that they’re just trying to get rid of the damned thing.
While many have speculated that the Qataris have offered Trump the luxurious plane to curry favor with the famously transactional president, there may be a simpler rationale: they just don’t want it anymore.

The royals have failed to sell the plane, which was put on the market in 2020, according to an archived listing. Giving it away could save Qatar’s rulers a big chunk of change on maintenance and storage costs, aviation experts told Forbes. Making Trump happy would be an added bonus.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« Last post by AATW on May 18, 2025, 08:48:31 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwywqg7lq1zo

Biden diagnosed with prostate cancer.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on May 18, 2025, 02:16:13 PM »
Quote from: honk
The difference is that CEOs and celebrities aren't public servants. It absolutely matters if people are spending money on the president's businesses to try and curry favor with him.

Wrong. When you pay a business for a product or service you get something in return. It is a stretch to say that a business owner owes something more to someone who already bought a good or a service from him.

In contrast to owning and operating a business, politicians regularly solicit and receive millions of dollars through donations. Politician like Obama were asking for large sums of money from donators, even in his last term. Why should we believe that a business owner is more likely to be corrupt than a politician who is handed a wad of cash by a corporation for vague reasons through donation companies?

What you believe should happen is also irrelevant to the fact that Trump's voters knew that he would be running his businesses once elected, especially when he was elected for his second term. Trump made that very clear, and people supported him for it, especially in light of the malicious prosecution against Trump and his companies. The voters wanted this. That is called democracy, and supersedes your small leftist complaint.

Quote from: honk
We were doing just fine with the expectation that the president should not be making money on the side before Trump came along, and we'll continue to do just fine by taking the next step of codifying it into law.

Laws which are codified through Congress are the result of democracy and representative democracy. Congress votes on the matter, and people vote for congress members. In this case, the people have already voted on this.

The fact that businesses have existed long before the creation of the country and neither the founders of the United States, its many congresses, or its courts up to present have had an issue with this also shows that you are on the losing side of this and do not have a supportable argument. You would be better off with a list of examples of corruption which have harmed the country through this mechanism, rather than handwaving a potential one in contrived scenarios where people owe strangers favors from unsolicited money and without agreement that a favor is owed.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Action80 on May 18, 2025, 05:23:40 AM »
It's not like there's a long history of presidents.
FTFY.