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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 10, 2022, 05:25:36 PM »

This sort of thing would be ideal for David Attenboroughs 'Planet' series - we are forever being shown whats on the planet but not what the planet actually is. Film crews spend months and months waiting to catch a glimpse of a snow leopard. If they sat for 20 minutes at a busy port they could surely replicate these images. But they don't.

Do you live in a coastal region? Can you reach the coast easily?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 10, 2022, 11:59:51 AM »

If they sat for 20 minutes at a busy port they could surely replicate these images. But they don't.

... because they don't need to, when the general public can see them for themselves.

Even when someone DOES produce a photo or a video of this, all you do is deride it on the basis that it COULD be CGI or Photoshop. Never any actual proof that it is, just "could be" ....

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 10, 2022, 10:57:11 AM »

If the earth is a globe then any image of a ship beyond the horizon would not be sitting at right angles to the horizon. It would be at right angles to the relevant curvature. The ships in the image are both upright which clearly shows the pic is a fake.

...but the curvature is directly away from the observer, along his line of sight. Not left to right across his field of view. Besides which, using textbook sizes and angles, a ship would have to be 69 miles to either the left or right to exhibit only one degree of deviation from the vertical.

In the example shown, if the farther ship was 69 miles from the observer, it would only exhibit an inclination of only one degree away from the observer, which would be totally invisible to him

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 10, 2022, 12:13:26 AM »

It could quite easily be CGI.

"could"

You have no evidence that it is, right? None at all.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« on: December 09, 2022, 04:11:56 PM »

Evidence that the atmosphere is shaped like a dome is in its ability to explain everyday observations like sunsets and star trails from a flat earth perspective.

Atmo-SPHERE.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 09, 2022, 03:29:15 PM »

How come an image such as this one has never been seen (the top image in the below link) ? i.e. a boat cruising along parallel to the coastline just beyond the horizon.

What makes you think this has "never been seen"? How many people have you asked? Have you asked ANYONE if they have seen this? Or is your "never" just based on your own, limited, experience?

it would aid the round earth theorists if it was a regular occurrence but for some reason i think not.

Why would you "think" that, without some meaningful statistics to back it up?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 09, 2022, 10:44:11 AM »

How come an image such as this one has never been seen (the top image in the below link) ? i.e. a boat cruising along parallel to the coastline just beyond the horizon.

What makes you think this has "never been seen"? How many people have you asked? Have you asked ANYONE if they have seen this? Or is your "never" just based on your own, limited, experience?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« on: December 09, 2022, 10:03:26 AM »

... the atmosphere is like my unpopular glass dome experiments where I show you how ...

Proof please, of the likenesses between the two.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« on: December 09, 2022, 10:00:30 AM »

Here is a quote from Enyclopedia Britannica:

The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons, or roughly one millionth of Earth’s mass.

Here's another;

Since the Copernican revolution of the 16th century, at which time the Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus proposed a Sun-centred model of the universe (see heliocentric system), enlightened thinkers have regarded Earth as a planet like the others of the solar system. Concurrent sea voyages provided practical proof that Earth is a globe, just as Galileo’s use of his newly invented telescope in the early 17th century soon showed various other planets to be globes as well. It was only after the dawn of the space age, however, when photographs from rockets and orbiting spacecraft first captured the dramatic curvature of Earth’s horizon, that the conception of Earth as a roughly spherical planet rather than as a flat entity was verified by direct human observation. Humans first witnessed Earth as a complete orb floating in the inky blackness of space in December 1968 when Apollo 8 carried astronauts around the Moon. Robotic space probes on their way to destinations beyond Earth, such as the Galileo and the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) spacecraft in the 1990s, also looked back with their cameras to provide other unique portraits of the planet.

Is the EB to be relied upon?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« on: December 08, 2022, 03:27:26 PM »

.... t on a flat world we would only live in one particular hemisphere, or one side of earth

A hemisphere is half of a sphere. One side of your flat earth is a disc. A circle enclosed by a plane. You cannot have hemispheres on a flat earth. Geometrically impossible. You need to have a sphere in order to divide it into two hemispheres.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« on: December 07, 2022, 10:44:49 PM »

The picture has what you need...  Just draw a line from  south pole around Earth (meridian or w/e) and to the north pole...

Not what I asked.

If you're at the North Pole in your left-hand diagram, by what method do you actually travel to the South Pole.

You've told me that you can, in theory, draw a line from the South Pole to the North Pole, but I didn't ask by what method you draw lines.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?

« on: December 07, 2022, 08:57:34 PM »

Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side.

So ... when people travel to the South Pole, they go BENEATH the flat earth? On the "other" side?

This isn't hard...  The opposite poles of a flat or spherical earth are located at the opposite ends of there axis of rotation....  There right beneath one another, seperated by earth of course.

Yeah, so if someone travels to the North Pole, and stands directly upon it, how would you suggest they then travel to the South Pole?  It's below the North Pole, I get that. On a globe, you simply follow a meridian until you've travelled 180 degrees around the circumference, and find yourself at an antipodal point to where you started.

Where do you go on this flat disc to reach the South Pole?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?

« on: December 07, 2022, 06:42:22 PM »

Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side.

So ... when people travel to the South Pole, they go BENEATH the flat earth? On the "other" side?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?

« on: December 07, 2022, 02:38:43 PM »

So ... when someone on this disc travels to the North Pole, they're also travelling to the South Pole as well?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 07, 2022, 10:53:59 AM »

Two outspoken liberals on tfes.org were unable to maintain the same narrative.

Flat-earthers here and flat-earthers on YouTube are unable to maintain the same narrative. The ones on YouTube cannot maintain consistency between themselves.

Looks like Flat Earth has failed.

Good luck on trying to make "liberal" into an insult or perjorative.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why can't I always see the sun if the sun is always above the earth?

« on: December 05, 2022, 07:20:55 PM »

... the natural tendancy for distant objects to appear lower to a viewer

... only if the observer is below said objects. If they are all of the same height, such as the oft-cited row of lamp posts, they would appear to rise in the observer's field of view, not appear lower.

With the observer below the lamp tops, they appear to descend to his eye level;



With the observer above them, they appear to ascend to his eye level;

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Technology & Information / Re: Speeding will be harder...

« on: December 02, 2022, 09:41:39 AM »

how would it know the speed limit?  Read speed signs?  Google map?

I recently drove a 2021 vehicle had camera(s), apparently reading roadside signs (which have a standardised format in the UK) and white-painted signs on the roadway. This system would fall apart if, for instance, New York State and New Jersey had different styles of roadside signs....

Additionally, but unconnected to that car, I have an app on my phone, Drivescore, which monitors the behaviour of my phone, and hence my driving, in terms of speeding, acceleration, braking, cornering etc. Those who score smoothest and safest qualify for insurance discounts with the insurers who embrace the system. The informational blurb for this app states that it has an extensive database of current applicable speed limits in the UK. I assume that info is held at Drivescore central, and the app communicates with it at intervals. 

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Technology & Information / Re: T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: December 02, 2022, 09:32:25 AM »

This is artwork. Rockets fly several thousand miles then drop in the ocean outta sight.

The Russians launched from Baikonour, in Kazakhstan.  Which ocean?  C'mon, now, look at the map of Asia. Which ocean?

Also, when you map out an orthographic view of a rocket going upward and away from the launch site, it does not matter whether you map it against a flat earth or globe. Either way, as the rocket climbs and moves further away, the net result in both cases is that it appears to drop, by moving lower in the observer's field of view. Do the maths on it, and you'll see. Wanna see mine?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Does the Sun appear larger in the morning?

« on: November 30, 2022, 10:40:27 AM »

I think the world spins and the sun is stationary.  The reason the sun doesn't light up the whole world is because of the way the Earth tilts towards the sun and how the light bends around the atmosphere....  This creates areas of light and areas of dark on Earth.  That's why we can use time zones but it's generally 12pm when the sun is directy over a  location...

 Time zones I guess are important so everyone starts and ends a calendar day at the same time...  I think 12am in Greenwich UK is when a new day officially starts followed by the countries approaching 12am midnight ..

WHY do you "think" this ...?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Wiki on aviation

« on: November 23, 2022, 11:30:38 PM »

Isn't it remotely possible that the estimated distances were miscalculated and relying on a round earth?

No. If that were the case, planes would routinely and consistently arrive early or late, rather than the odd few exhibiting an anomalous time.