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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Clouds
« on: Today at 12:55:36 PM »
hello,

Since industrial activity and air traffic have considerably slowed down due to the so-called “coronavirus”, the sky has suddenly turned blue again. The whole thing raises a number of issues about the formation of clouds, doesn’t it?

Depends on where you are in relation to the industrialised areas, doesn't it?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 04, 2020, 10:55:41 PM »
Oh no, Trump fired some moron who protected a 'whistleblower' who was 'whistleblowing' about a non-issue.

Aren't there legal protections in place, in law, to protect the WB?

In my opinion, the man conspired to oust Trump and got himself ousted instead. It's a deserved firing. If the IG did his job correctly, he would have realized that what Trump did wasn't something that Congress needed to waste its time and money on, but instead purposefully misled people on the amount of evidence of wrongdoing available, and as a result, wasted large amounts of federal government resources.

Surely it's up to Congress to decide whether to use that time or money? They could have rejected the IG's findings, after all, if they thought there was more pressing business.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 04, 2020, 09:41:45 AM »
The US is deep into Orwell's world of newspeak;

"A reporter at the White House briefing asked Trump why Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, referred to “our stockpile” yesterday when asked about states struggling to get key medical supplies, especially ventilators, from the federal government. (Kushner had said: “The notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile. It’s not supposed to be states’ stockpiles that they then use.”)

Trump just gave a very confusing response, saying: “You know what ‘our’ means? The United States of America. Our, our, and then we take that ‘our’ and we distribute it to the states.”

The reporter responded: “So why did he say it’s not supposed to be states’ stockpiles?”

Trump: “Because we need it for the government, we need it for the federal government. To keep for our country because the federal government needs it, too, not just the states. But out of that we choose oftentimes, as an example, we have almost 10,000 ventilators and we are ready to rock...we are going to bring them to various areas of the country that need them. But when he says ‘our’ he is talking about “our country” he is talking about the federal government. You should be ashamed of yourself...don’t make it sound bad...you just asked your question in a very nasty way.”

In fact, yesterday reporters quickly noted the stockpile is indeed meant as a resource for the states, as noted on the department of health and human services’ website.

“When state, local, tribal, and territorial responders request federal assistance to support their response efforts, the stockpile ensures that the right medicines and supplies get to those who need them most during an emergency,” the website read.

But this morning, that language had been removed from the HHS website. “The Strategic National Stockpile’s role is to supplement state and local supplies during public health emergencies,” the website now says. “Many states have products stockpiled, as well.”"

Don't like the DHHS policy? Change the website to make it look as though it was never policy....

When will they start photoshopping non-believers out of photos?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 04, 2020, 09:17:19 AM »
Man, that article was very biased.

How about this one? Biased or factual/realistic?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/04/trump-coronavirus-science-analysis

Guardian also reports that Congressman Adam Schiff drafted a bill to establish a commission to probe the coronavirus response. The Democratic lawmaker said the commission would seek to gather lessons for future crises.

Trump then dismissed the idea of a commission yesterday as a “witch-hunt”.


Sheesh, it's almost like he WANTS Americans to get sick and die. Dismantled the Pandemic Response team that was specifically set up to deal with stuff like this, now doesn't want to have anyone look into how lessons could be learned to help in the future.

Meanwhile, rumour has it he's playing golf at one of his clubs this weekend.


Also...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/03/jared-kushner-coronavirus-pandemic

"If Kushner weren’t married to the boss’s daughter he would not be anywhere near the Oval Office. But Trump treats the presidency like a family business, and we know how that has ended before: a passel of bankruptcies and a pile of debt."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 03, 2020, 05:26:25 PM »
Man, that article was very biased.

As long as it's not factually incorrect ...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 03, 2020, 09:48:58 AM »
https://imgur.com/gallery/vCf4ewa

Remember when Obama refused aid to the states that weren't nice to him? Nobody does.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 03, 2020, 09:18:52 AM »
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/2/21204228/trump-coronavirus-crisis-impeachment-trial-professor-pamela-karlan-warning

It can't be stressed enough that nearly half of the country feels that behavior like this is perfectly acceptable.  In fact a solid majority of Americans approve of Trump's handling of the crisis, which is kind of insane.

Meanwhile, outsiders looking in are horrified

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:45:16 PM »
Secret Service just ordered $45,000 of golf cart rentals at Trump National Golf Club this weekend.

Can you guess why?

https://imgur.com/gallery/Pd9025s

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:25:59 PM »
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-fired-pandemic-response-jared-kushner-coronavirus.html#comments

Damn, that Jared Kushner can do anything! I'm surprised he hasn't solved world hunger yet, surely he has a solution in mind.

This is terrifying.

"... reports that, in one meeting, the presidential son-in-law insisted that he had mastered the problem of ventilator disbursement. “I have all this data about ICU capacity. I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this."

Wow. That really inspires confidence. Not.

"There is no chance that bringing in a rich kid who happened to marry into the family to direct the federal government’s response to a catastrophic pandemic is an optimal, or even reasonable, management structure."

Spot on.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:21:04 PM »
Trump sez "Nobody saw this pandemic coming". Biden did.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/nobody-expected-the-coronavirus-pandemic-joe-biden-did.html

"...  Biden ...  wrote an op-ed on January 27 warning that Trump had left the country unprepared to handle the coronavirus outbreak, and proposing steps to counter it. One of his main advisers, Ron Klain, wrote an op-ed making similar points five days before that."

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Black Holes and Paper Cuts
« on: April 02, 2020, 11:03:45 PM »
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So you would agree that the surfaces of the seas and oceans can be regarded as following this foundational straight line?

Yes, on large scales.

OK, so you go to the water's edge and construct a tower of 100 metre height, which you can climb and look out from atop it.

Out on the sea, you construct another tower, also 100m high.

Do you agree that the flat plane of the sea, the two towers of the same height, and the sightline from top of one to the other form a perfect rectangle, with the sightline parallel to the surface of the sea?

Y/N

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »
Tues 31 Mar "Trump to roll back Obama-era clean car rules in huge blow to climate fight"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/31/trump-epa-obama-clean-car-rules-climate-change

and ...

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2017/03/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment/

It's almost like he WANTS to make the environment worse for Americans...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 05:29:46 PM »
Tom

March 6, Trump visits the Centre for Disease Control, and can't help blathering about his phone call with the Ukranian president - ""The [coronavirus] tests are all perfect. Like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. This was not a perfect as that, but pretty good.""

Same visit, he seems to want the folks on board a cruise ship to die in order to keep the numbers down on the mainland - "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship"

There you go. Just two examples of the despicable nature of Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/coronavirus-donald-trump-timeline

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 05:23:23 PM »
... goes on to describe the despicable nature of the media.

Trump's administration disbanded/stramlined the global pandemic office in early 2018.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-did-president-trumps-decision-disband-global-pandemic-office-hinder-response/5064881002/

When asked about that now, Trump describes it as a "nasty question". That's Trump's despicable nature, right there.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Black Holes and Paper Cuts
« on: April 02, 2020, 05:07:46 PM »
.... yes, you could view a drawn straight line as a foundational point.

So you would agree that the surfaces of the seas and oceans can be regarded as following this foundational straight line?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Black Holes and Paper Cuts
« on: April 02, 2020, 04:35:29 PM »
Really, you're getting hung up on the word 'disc?'

I'm not. You introduced at as though I spoke of it, and I said I did not. How is that ME getting "hung up" on it?

What you're actually saying is 'in applictaion to all FE models where the underlying physics I am appealing to are as I imagine them to be, ie the RE model.'

No, I didn't say that all, I specifically asked you not to do this. Don't put words into my mouth. Address what I'm actually saying, not what you think I want to say.

In consideration of ANY type of Flat Earth model, the starting point is a straight line on a piece of paper or computer screen, is it not? Y/N

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 04:21:38 PM »
I remember when the world thought that GW Bush was the dumbest president ever ... Oh, how we were wrong.

Yesterday "Trump started his coronavirus briefing by talking up a Defense Dept. effort to stop narcotics from coming into the U.S. on the same day the death toll from COVID-19 surpassed the number who died in the September 11th terror attacks. "

Dontcha think, Tom, that he has his priorities all wrong?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: April 02, 2020, 03:34:12 PM »
Imagine being a liberal democrat and hoping that people die just to make Trump look bad.

Don't need that to happen for him to look bad. He manages that by walking out in public in his oversized suits, Kim-Jong-Un pants, carefully-tended strawberry blonde coiffe, facial paint, and everytime he opens his mouth.

Honestly, the child cast from Young Sheldon are better public speakers, and far more coherent than POTUS 45. Funnier, too.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Black Holes and Paper Cuts
« on: April 02, 2020, 03:26:37 PM »
Really? How are you making any claim about what is or isn't possible under FET if you aren't using any FE models?
Oh, wait, your idea of a model is 'everything functions exactly as it does under RET only on a disc,'

I didn't say anything about a disc. Please don't put words into my mouth. Respond to what I say, not what you want me to say, nor what you think I'm not saying.

something no actual FEer believes, but that's all you're capable of arguing against because you're still blindly following RET. That's why comparing models help. It makes you not look like a joke.

If the underlying plane of the Earth, upon which heights and levels are based, is anything other than a straight line, we cannot be talking about a Flat Earth anymore.  If it has a convex or concave aspect, when considered in a side view, it ain't flat.

So, in consideration of ANY Flat Earth model, the starting point is a straight line on a piece of paper or computer screen, is it not?

This applies whether it's a discworld or not.

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And here is where we are going to differ.
You believe there is such a thing as outer space.
I do not.

....which renders all of your arguments about types of imaging and photography from space totally moot.

It's as if you're arguing about seafaring methods of navigation, but you don't believe the oceans and seas exist.

Or quibbling about whether the lumberjack used a chainsaw or a handsaw when you don't believe there's a forest.   

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