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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Last post by Rushy on Today at 03:33:31 PM »
Where do these polls happen? I've always wanted to be Polled.

You have to be the kind of person that always answers when random phone numbers call you.

Poll update:

National: Harris +1.8 -- This Day In History: October 11, 2020: Biden +10.3 | October 11, 2016: Clinton +6.0
Arizona: Trump +0.5
Nevada: Trump +0.2
Wisconsin: Harris +0.3
Michigan: Trump +0.9
Pennsylvania: Trump +0.4
North Carolina: Trump +0.5
Georgia: Trump +0.5
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Last post by rooster on Today at 12:23:33 PM »
Where do these polls happen? I've always wanted to be Polled.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024
« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 09:30:24 AM »
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fox-news-proposes-dates-possible-second-trump-harris-debate-2024-10-09/

Trump turns down fox news invite for debate with Harris.  Apparently he doesn't want a rematch even on a safe network like Fox.  Weird, right?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Free Speech Warrior Elon Musk
« Last post by beardo on Today at 12:12:27 AM »
Elon's personal politics =/= twatter's politics.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« Last post by Rushy on October 10, 2024, 02:07:53 PM »
I think I'm interpreting "disarm" and "ban guns" a bit more broadly than you, but regardless, I'll rephrase - I strongly disagree with the notion that an armed population are somehow a check on the federal government or a deterrent to any undesirable activity on their part, and that if the government were planning to pass shitty, unpopular, or blatantly unconstitutional laws, they would first need to disarm the population. That's just something that gun enthusiasts like to tell themselves (and everyone else) so they can imagine that they're actually performing an important civic duty by pursuing their hobby.

This is certainly a strange opinion to have that runs contrary to recorded history. Do you have a lot of good examples of countries where the population was well armed but ended up widely suppressed by an authoritarian government anyway?

I'm not trying to call you specifically out. I'm just saying that the implied threat of an armed population in this country making trouble for or resisting an oppressive government is ultimately an empty one. Americans will not rise up against their government en masse, with or without their guns. Politicians know this. In fact, I'd say that anyone who has taken the time to actually think about this subject instead of immediately accepting gun enthusiasts' romanticized view of their hobby as the undisputed truth knows this. In light of this fact, I think that conspiracy theories about how gun control laws and policies are secretly intended to make the population compliant and unable to resist in the face of further tyranny fall apart.

Is your opinion seriously "rebellions against governments never happen"? Seems a bit silly, don't you think? We're barely a decade removed from Arab Spring. Surely you've heard about that one, at least?

As Jim Jeffreys notes in his bit about guns in one of his stand up tours, there's only one argument for having guns, and that's "I like guns".
People don't need it for "protection", they're not going to rise up against the government, they just like guns.

It's almost like guns have multiple uses simultaneously.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« Last post by AATW on October 10, 2024, 09:45:35 AM »
I think I'm interpreting "disarm" and "ban guns" a bit more broadly than you, but regardless, I'll rephrase - I strongly disagree with the notion that an armed population are somehow a check on the federal government or a deterrent to any undesirable activity on their part, and that if the government were planning to pass shitty, unpopular, or blatantly unconstitutional laws, they would first need to disarm the population. That's just something that gun enthusiasts like to tell themselves (and everyone else) so they can imagine that they're actually performing an important civic duty by pursuing their hobby.
As Jim Jeffreys notes in his bit about guns in one of his stand up tours, there's only one argument for having guns, and that's "I like guns".
People don't need it for "protection", they're not going to rise up against the government, they just like guns.
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Just as an epilogue and summary, Tom said this at Reply#10;

"If you are sure that there is a category where sailing boats have sailed around it in a faster time then I would suggest finding it and then contacting Guinness World Records to inform them that they are incorrect about Lisa Blair holding the record for fastest circumnavigation by sailboat".

Well it turns out we don't need to e-mail Guinness (Tom's arbiter of choice on this subject); they already know.

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/527119-first-circumnavigation-of-antarctica-in-a-sailboat-south-of-the-60th-parallel
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« Last post by honk on October 10, 2024, 04:50:24 AM »
You mean except for all the people in the government trying to explicitly ban guns from being owned by the public.

I think I'm interpreting "disarm" and "ban guns" a bit more broadly than you, but regardless, I'll rephrase - I strongly disagree with the notion that an armed population are somehow a check on the federal government or a deterrent to any undesirable activity on their part, and that if the government were planning to pass shitty, unpopular, or blatantly unconstitutional laws, they would first need to disarm the population. That's just something that gun enthusiasts like to tell themselves (and everyone else) so they can imagine that they're actually performing an important civic duty by pursuing their hobby.

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This is correct. I have no intention of violent acts upon any individual or government entity. Violence is wrong and bad.

I'm not trying to call you specifically out. I'm just saying that the implied threat of an armed population in this country making trouble for or resisting an oppressive government is ultimately an empty one. Americans will not rise up against their government en masse, with or without their guns. Politicians know this. In fact, I'd say that anyone who has taken the time to actually think about this subject instead of immediately accepting gun enthusiasts' romanticized view of their hobby as the undisputed truth knows this. In light of this fact, I think that conspiracy theories about how gun control laws and policies are secretly intended to make the population compliant and unable to resist in the face of further tyranny fall apart.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Circumnavigation World Record Sailing Discrepancies
« Last post by Gonzo on October 10, 2024, 04:24:06 AM »
Quite.

The winds in the southern ocean are anomolous only in the fact that they are, on average, stronger in relative terms to those normally found, on average, elsewhere.

We know exactly why this is the case. We can predict them.

It's disingenuous at best to claim or suggest that they are somehow mysteriously strong, and that humankind is continually surprised by them, therefore causing all sorts of odd flight times and sail voyage durations.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Yet Another Gun Law Thread
« Last post by Rushy on October 09, 2024, 01:12:23 PM »
This is correct. I have no intention of violent acts upon any individual or government entity. Violence is wrong and bad.
What do you want a gun for then?

Recreational activities.