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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Cavendish experiment

« Last post by fisherman on Today at 07:45:19 PM »

I don't want SteelyBob's points or analogies. I want the points and analogies of qualified individuals. If you can't provide that then you guys have lost the argument.

What exactly do you need these qualified individuals to say?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why is it warmer in the shadow of moonlight rather than cooler?

« Last post by fisherman on Today at 07:27:09 PM »

Things cool down because they radiate heat.  An object that is "shaded" from moonlight is prevented from radiating as much heat because whatever is shading it will block it.

Same reason a cloudy night will be warmer than a clear night.  The clouds insulate the heat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How to make an FE map with accurate distances

« Last post by Tom Bishop on Today at 07:23:24 PM »

Your assumed distances are fallacious for a few reasons:

- People aren't walking across the oceans
- Planes use jet streams to reach far off locations
- The calculated of speed is s = d/t and requires a known distance. Distances are fundamentally in contention in this discussion

The translation to a FE model may be attributable to a number of possibilities. For example; if the outer edges of the FE celestial system are moving at a quicker speed over the Earth like the outer extremities of a record on a record player, then it stands that the upper atmosphere may be as well. A plane traveling in a high region of atmosphere may move faster in certain regions of the Earth than another.

And indeed, the winds are said to be anomalous in the South - https://wiki.tfes.org/Issues_in_Flight_Analysis

Please show a paper by a scientist that shows what you said to be true.

That page contain almost nothing except quotes and citations from contemporary sources. Feel free to go through them.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why?

« Last post by DuncanDoenitz on Today at 07:21:08 PM »

And the co-conspirators actively conducting space-based research include such well known international collaborators* as USA, North Korea, European Union, Russia, China, Japan, Israel, Iran, India and Pakistan. 

* for the removal of doubt, this is irony. 

And @Right Arm 1; the Abrahamic religions, and others, begin indoctrinating their offspring with creator-mythology before they can read.  Looking for a conspiracy? Might be a good place to start. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please

« Last post by RonJ on Today at 06:45:44 PM »

There are some who think that the drift nut on an aircraft directional gyro really isn't necessary for the gyro to work.  That part is true, but that's not the real issue here.  When the directional gyro does spin up it's stabilized indicated azimuth is completely random and has no relationship to which direction the aircraft is pointing at the time.  There will be a random offset displayed and that offset will slowly drift as the earth rotates on it's axis.  That part is a confirmed and verified fact by aircraft pilots including myself.  Now do you actually need a drift nut for the directional gyro to work?  Technically, NO.  But the information displayed by that gyro would be much more useful if you had a drift nut so you could reset the displayed azimuth to a much more useful reference point, the current heading of the aircraft.  It's really just that simple.


You could say that mankind doesn't really need the internet.  I survived for a long time before my first internet connection was installed.  You don't need a fancy telephone.  My grandmother had a crank telephone with no dial on it.  You cranked the phone and told the operator what number you wanted to call.  You don't need a color flat screen TV.  The TV I used to watch as a kid was a black & white one with a round screen about 12 inches in diameter.  Heck, you don't even need a wheel.  The caveman survived before any kind of round thing and just hunted animals for survival.  So which way do you want to go, forward in technology or backwards? 


Go ahead, take that drift nut off every pilot's gyro, he doesn't really need it.  Let those pilots use their brains to calculate the heading offsets mentally every time they need to.  Hopefully no pilot makes a mistake and collides with another aircraft and the wreckage falls on my house. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why?

« Last post by existoid on Today at 06:43:10 PM »

of course the question now becomes why do the scientific community of every other country on earth ALSO agree in RET, when they have no NASA (with some exceptions of course several great powers have space programs but many smaller countries do not).

To answer that question you’ll have to wait for a FETer to answer.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How to make an FE map with accurate distances

« Last post by TomInAustin on Today at 06:42:55 PM »

Your assumed distances are fallacious for a few reasons:

- People aren't walking across the oceans
- Planes use jet streams to reach far off locations
- The calculated of speed is s = d/t and requires a known distance. Distances are fundamentally in contention in this discussion

The translation to a FE model may be attributable to a number of possibilities. For example; if the outer edges of the FE celestial system are moving at a quicker speed over the Earth like the outer extremities of a record on a record player, then it stands that the upper atmosphere may be as well. A plane traveling in a high region of atmosphere may move faster in certain regions of the Earth than another.

And indeed, the winds are said to be anomalous in the South - https://wiki.tfes.org/Issues_in_Flight_Analysis

Please show a paper by a scientist that shows what you said to be true.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Cavendish experiment

« Last post by SteelyBob on Today at 06:29:59 PM »

There is no gravitational constant is the point.

The word, "constant,"  pretty much means "fixed."

And, as detailed by Quinn, "constant," cannot be applied as an adjective when things are not "constant."

So, you do as you would wish Tom do, only first.

But if the source of the roughly 400ppm error is variability in G - which, by the way, none of the scientists agree on - that means that G exists, but it's just a function of something else and at a local level here on earth it's close enough to being a constant as to not matter much. And they've measured it pretty well. And if G exists, so does gravity.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please

« Last post by SteelyBob on Today at 06:24:21 PM »

Again, I am not muddying things by using your source. It is plainly evident from your source that Sigma Octantis could not possibly be visible in all three places at once because it is not dark enough in all three places at once.

Dark enough.

Dark enough.

Your source.

Your source.

ETA: Sigma Octantis not useful for navigation due to the fact it is barely visible. Perhaps it maybe not even a "pole star."

My source:



The dark shaded bit = official 'night', ie twilight over, sun more than 18 degrees below horizon. See the dark shaded bit on the east coast of South America and the West coast of Australia? That's dark. The city of Recife in Brazil, for example? Dark. Africa? Dark. West coast of Australia? Also dark.

Maybe the satellite (sorry..guess you don't believe in those) image will help with visualisation:



Quite happy if you want to dispute this, but you'll need to come up with something better than 'your source says it's not dark enough', when it quite clearly, most definitely says it is.

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Flat Earth Community / Why is it warmer in the shadow of moonlight rather than cooler?

« Last post by Right Arm 1 on Today at 06:06:37 PM »

I have seen experiments on Youtube videos showing that when an object is exposed to direct moonlight, it is actually cooler (lower temperature) than when the same object is being shaded from the direct moonlight.  Does anyone have an explanation or theory as to why this is so?