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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 10:31:01 PM »
"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form.
Again, with all of the advance warning, it's fairly likely that the stockpile of enriched uranium was moved as well.  The centrifuges might be a different story.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by DuncanDoenitz on June 27, 2025, 09:58:35 PM »
If we accept that the Fordo site was a weapon production facility, which seems to be the position of both Israel and USA, then it is was a legitimate military target. 

"Obliterated" or not, unless the enriched uranium has been vapourised, it may still exist in some form.  Any attempt at rebuilding, recovery or salvaging of either the product, or its means of production, is also a legitimate military target. 
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 08:59:47 PM »
From the above PBS article:

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The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.

They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
But the site was obliterated, according to Trump.  Shouldn't have BEEN survivors.  And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.
Trump had been talking about the strike for days, so the site was most likely already evacuated, therefore it's doubtful that anybody was trapped or dying in the rubble.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 27, 2025, 07:24:32 PM »
From the above PBS article:

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The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.

They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
But the site was obliterated, according to Trump.  Shouldn't have BEEN survivors.  And if Israel just wanted to kill anyone who tried to assess damage just because they can... yeah, that's a war crime.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 05:19:21 PM »
But Trump said they did.  Hit that site and obliterated it. 
Trump also said that there was a cease fire.  Apparently neither side got the memo.

Then Israel hits the same spot again.
The article said that they hit the roads going to that spot, among other targets.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on June 27, 2025, 05:15:45 PM »
From the above PBS article:

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The Israeli military also confirmed it struck roads around Iran’s Fordo enrichment facility to obstruct access to the site.

They took out the roads to prevent emergency responders from trying to help people who may have been trapped or dying in the rubble. This is reprehensible, and likely a war crime. Attacking the survivors of a bombing is distinctly different than the bombing of the infrastructure itself.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 27, 2025, 02:53:46 PM »
Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.
Or, maybe the US and other previous strikes didn’t take out every possible target.
But Trump said they did.  Hit that site and obliterated it.  Then Israel hits the same spot again.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by markjo on June 27, 2025, 01:46:03 PM »
Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.
Or, maybe the US and other previous strikes didn’t take out every possible target. 
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 27, 2025, 09:07:05 AM »
Oh hey, something we all missed.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-hits-iranian-government-targets-day-after-u-s-strikes-on-iranian-nuclear-sites

Apparently, Israel wanted to attack an already obliterated site.  Weird, right?  Almost like Trump is lying about how much damage was done.  Probably why he's blocking congress from seeing the reports.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on June 26, 2025, 10:22:15 PM »
Before too long, they might have to start letting the illegals in again so that they have someone to deport.

Nah.  That'll show up.  They'll kidnap Mexicans and make them cross the border, then arrest them.