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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« Last post by Tumeni on Today at 10:44:11 AM »

How come an image such as this one has never been seen (the top image in the below link) ? i.e. a boat cruising along parallel to the coastline just beyond the horizon.

What makes you think this has "never been seen"? How many people have you asked? Have you asked ANYONE if they have seen this? Or is your "never" just based on your own, limited, experience?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tron on Today at 10:18:16 AM »

Evidence that the atmosphere is shaped like a dome is in its ability to explain everyday observations like sunsets and star trails from a flat earth perspective. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tumeni on Today at 10:03:26 AM »

... the atmosphere is like my unpopular glass dome experiments where I show you how ...

Proof please, of the likenesses between the two.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tumeni on Today at 10:00:30 AM »

Here is a quote from Enyclopedia Britannica:

The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons, or roughly one millionth of Earth’s mass.

Here's another;

Since the Copernican revolution of the 16th century, at which time the Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus proposed a Sun-centred model of the universe (see heliocentric system), enlightened thinkers have regarded Earth as a planet like the others of the solar system. Concurrent sea voyages provided practical proof that Earth is a globe, just as Galileo’s use of his newly invented telescope in the early 17th century soon showed various other planets to be globes as well. It was only after the dawn of the space age, however, when photographs from rockets and orbiting spacecraft first captured the dramatic curvature of Earth’s horizon, that the conception of Earth as a roughly spherical planet rather than as a flat entity was verified by direct human observation. Humans first witnessed Earth as a complete orb floating in the inky blackness of space in December 1968 when Apollo 8 carried astronauts around the Moon. Robotic space probes on their way to destinations beyond Earth, such as the Galileo and the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) spacecraft in the 1990s, also looked back with their cameras to provide other unique portraits of the planet.

Is the EB to be relied upon?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tron on Today at 09:03:12 AM »

you posit that what we recognize as hemispheres are the two sides of the flat earth, with the equator on the rim.[/b]

That's not what I believe. I believe in a conventional South Pole centered AE map with a few alterations...   

The point i was trying to make earlier is that you can think of a flat earth like a round earth when it comes to magnetism....   The magnetic field lines of each model lie along the axis of rotation. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Electricity video - how most people are wrong.

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 07:54:41 AM »

I have seen this rediculous piece. He does not provide any evidence at all that the field is jumping the gap and not following the wires.

He does.
The undersea telegraph cable story.

Also math.

Also also, he does say it follows the wires in typical home situations because field lines from the power plant to your home?  Yeah no.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 07:51:10 AM »

Wasn't the initial argument that the Feds planted the docs?

Yeah, but they abandoned that for other shitty arguements almost instantly.

Yep.  And finally settled on "I'll just run for president and hope I'm President before this goes to trial."

I don’t think he’s getting the nomination at this point. Stop the steal candidates had Republicans voting for Democrats in a lot of cases. His business just received a fraud conviction, his legal team might be getting contempt charges over their mishandling/withholding/lying about classified documents possession under federal subpoena. If charges are laid before the convention he SHOULD be a dead duck.

He should have been a dead duck years ago.  I think we need to redefine possibilities. 

But as it is with the GOP slamming him, I doubt they'd give him the nomination if they can help it.  And all the republicans who tried to stop him from getting it in 2016 are probably enjoying a big, fat, 'I told you so.'

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tron on Today at 06:19:45 AM »

Stack, I've never said Earth is a hollowed out Dome..

Here is a quote from Enyclopedia Britannica:

The total mass of Earth’s atmosphere is about 5.5 quadrillion tons, or roughly one millionth of Earth’s mass.


That's alot of atmospheric mass even when compared to Earth.  To say it's not possible for air to affect the way we see objects on or away from Earth is unfair.

https://www.britannica.com/story/how-much-does-earths-atmosphere-weigh

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Tron on Today at 05:39:21 AM »

Duncan - I admit, I do not understand why planes think they are going north on a flat earth when I assume they are travelling east or west to cicumnavigate the arctic regions...

I do notice the live tracking of north polar flights is cut off from the internet ... Any idea why?  What technology are they using?

And I'd prefer to keep my "sources" of why the air get's thinner near the poles or beyond them....  but this is already a phenomenon we observe up there.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why is Earth a magnet?

« Last post by Magicalus on Today at 03:11:05 AM »

So, I have a new problem with your model, that has to do with a double sided Earth having any thickness; you posit that what we recognize as hemispheres are the two sides of the flat earth, with the equator on the rim. Here's the problem: that means there must be a ton of land on the rim, and thus a large area both on and off the rim where you would expect to see the earth curve (relatively)  sharply downward, with no horizon. You estimate the earth to have a thickness of about 1/4 the flat earth's circumference. Turns out, I didn't need that estimate, because no estimate works. If the Earth is thin, there isn't be enough iron in the earth's core to create the magnetic field, plus the view on the rim would be incredibly peculiar, with ground sharply dropping off before the horizon, even on the equator. If the earth is thick, then much more land is on the rim.

That's a problem for one big reasons: measurements. I know that this chapter of FE doesn't trust all the measurements we get for the world, especially at sea, but this would take it to a whole new level. The thinner the rim is, the less land is on it, so it works. But as previously mentioned, this would lead to perspective issues. But if it's thicker, than the circumference of the earth shrinks, because the contiguous landmasses over the equator mean that we can't fudge it: there's less surface area on the disk part. If you DID fudge it, and you would have to fudge it pretty heavily for this to work, than measurements on land, which can be verified much more easily, would be so incredibly far off it would be impossible to keep under wraps. So, the circumference logically must shrink.

But if the circumference shrinks, that brings up all kinds of new and exciting issues with the landmasses near the equator. See, the circumference of the cylinder would be in line with measurements for things near the edge of the rim. As you get farther though, things start shrinking fast. Think about it; the landmasses near the equator would have to be much smaller, because they now have less latitude to work with than in both the globe model and most FE models. Once again, though measurements can be fudged, this would take a LOT of fudging.

And isn't the whole reason FE doesn't have one conclusive model because none of them line up with measurements?

Oh, and the good ol' Coriolis effect has come back once more! See, this effect just wouldn't work on the rim. like, at all.