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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Last post by Action80 on Today at 01:41:25 PM »
^ Claiming that a single disease wiped out over .3 percent of the world's population last year.

AMAZING!
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Look it up yourself.
I have, some time ago, and I got a very different answer. So I'm interested in your source.

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Even if you take the inflated death toll numbers of this disease (and that is a fact the death toll was overreported and misattributed), this disease is a NOTHING BURGER
I disagree. Here are the age adjusted figures for all cause mortality in the UK. It's 30 years of data with a consistently falling mortality rate and then last year it jumps up. And it's worth noting that many of the Covid deaths came in 2021 so it'll be interesting to see what the graph will be like when this year's data is added.



So something caused a lot of extra deaths last year, and looking at the data in the UK this Jan/Feb I suspect we'll see that this year too. So it's clearly not nothing.

The problem here is none of us have lived through a pandemic before. Some people seem to be expecting piles of bodies in the street like in Contagion. I don't think that's how these things play out in real life.

The CFR is about 1% in a developed country from the things I've read. And that's skewed towards older people. Plus there's people who get "long Covid". Sure, they might not die but they're getting quite poorly for a long time. This isn't just the flu. It's clearly a situation which demanded a response. I'm not convinced lockdowns were the right response but a lot of people were dying, a lot of others were getting ill enough to require hospital treatment and that was putting a lot of pressure on health services and meant it required a response.

Whether it was the right response is a different debate.
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« Last post by Action80 on Today at 01:04:00 PM »
What matters to determine the shape of the Earth is that the footage of these 2 events clearly show a  curved horizon. These facts are undisputable.
I trust that you will also consider the parts that appear to show the Earth to be concave to be indisputable facts? What about the ones in which no curvature is apparent? Why is one of those 3 states, each present in the footage, "indisputable" to you?
Have any of the people who experienced it said they saw a flat horizon at that height though?
It is likely they were more actually concerned with behaving and acting like kids on a rollercoaster, experiencing the temporary weightlessness one could achieve on said rollercoaster or the vomit comet, rather than actually looking out the window. As if your eyesight wouldn't be affected by the requirements of the glass in both of the craft in question, to begin with.

But, as I stated earlier.

Present the math indicating one could see the globe earth from an altitude of 55 miles.

Come on, do it. You made the claim, remember?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Last post by Action80 on Today at 12:59:32 PM »
Look it up yourself. I am not going to do work for you.

There are 7 billion people in the world.

Even if you take the inflated death toll numbers of this disease (and that is a fact the death toll was overreported and misattributed), this disease is a NOTHING BURGER and the only reason for its hype is to serve the BIG LIE, successfully promulgated and promoted by people like you.
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What matters to determine the shape of the Earth is that the footage of these 2 events clearly show a  curved horizon. These facts are undisputable.
I trust that you will also consider the parts that appear to show the Earth to be concave to be indisputable facts? What about the ones in which no curvature is apparent? Why is one of those 3 states, each present in the footage, "indisputable" to you?
Have any of the people who experienced it said they saw a flat horizon at that height though?
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« Last post by Pete Svarrior on Today at 11:45:33 AM »
What matters to determine the shape of the Earth is that the footage of these 2 events clearly show a  curved horizon. These facts are undisputable.
I trust that you will also consider the parts that appear to show the Earth to be concave to be indisputable facts? What about the ones in which no curvature is apparent? Why is one of those 3 states, each present in the footage, "indisputable" to you?
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A disease that has a survivability rate of 99.7 percent for ALL creatures, great and small.
What is your source for that figure?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« Last post by Action80 on Today at 11:22:10 AM »
The most absolutely morally reprehensible thing ever foisted upon this forum is the fear mongering pushed by the usual crowd here. A disease that has a survivability rate of 99.7 percent for ALL creatures, great and small.

Think about it. A vaccine for a disease that has (at best, as the numbers were acknowledged to be inflated from the get go by Dr. Birx) a 99.7 percent survivability rate for EVERYONE!

Those pushing the fear agenda should go lie down in a corner somewhere.
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The European Parliament has passed a law allowing e-mail and messaging service providers to automatically scan all messages for suspicious content and report matches to police, under the guise of protecting children. The linked article provides a good, if somewhat biased, overview.

This is not as invasive as surveillance legislation in some other parts of the world. For instance, it does not require service providers to conduct surveillance, it only permits it, which enables users to choose providers that respect their privacy. The full text of the legislation also provides limitations on the extent of such surveillance, restricting it only to detection of child abuse. It also explicitly excludes breaking of end-to-end encryption from its remit.

But Patrick Breyer, the author of the article linked in the first paragraph, makes an argument that this surveillance will not actually help combat child abuse.

Indiscriminate searches will not protect children and even endanger them by exposing their private photos to unknown persons, and by criminalising children themselves. Already overburdened investigators are kept busy with having to sort out thousands of criminally irrelevant messages. The victims of such a terrible crime as child sexual abuse deserve measures that prevent abuse in the first place. The right approach would be, for example, to intensify undercover investigations into child porn rings and reduce of the years-long processing backlogs in searches and evaluations of seized data.

Further (see the linked article), he is planning legal action in the context of a European Court of Justice ruling on the subject.

You can see a list of which MEPs voted which way on the legislation here, under the section Use of technologies for the processing of data for the purpose of combating online child sexual abuse (temporary derogation from Directive 2002/58/EC). This may be helpful in determining whom to vote for in 2024, whichever way you lean on this issue.[/s]
Parsifal - "I love the EU as long as it does not try to protect children from trafficking and abuse."
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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« Last post by Action80 on Today at 11:03:19 AM »
Whether or not Bezos or Branson officiaaly reached space doen´t actually matter. What´s important  is that they went high enough to clearly see the curvature of the Earrh.

If they are lying about going to space, why suddenly trust them when they say the earth is a ball?

Nobody doubts the measurable facts: how high they went, which device they used to get there, how this device was operated (automatic pilot or not), etc...
For the FE debate it does not matter whether they can be called astronauts or not. That´s another debate in which I´m not interested. What matters to determine the shape of the Earth is that the footage of these 2 events clearly show a  curved horizon. These facts are undisputable.
For decades NASA, ESA, ROSKOSMOS,CNSA etc and all the corresponding governements have been accused by FE adherents of fakery. I sure hope commercial businesses won´t be added to that list. Soon the whole world will be full of liars if we want to believe FE adherents.
Easy enough to get a curve out of a camera lens.

Plenty of other photos indicating a flat horizon.