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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Earth's Tides
« Last post by freeemind on Today at 12:23:06 AM »
Best explanation of tides I have found in a while.

All wrong.  The Tidal Forces act upon the Continental Land Masses..  not the oceans.  This also explains why lakes (even huge lakes) don't experience the same effect.  Additionally, this has much to do with earthquakes, magma creation and the predictable eruption of geysers.
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Yes, apologies. FoR means frame of reference. For an observer on Earth, light would take a straight line path from the emitter to the moon. For an observer in a different perspective the light may indeed appear to curve. In this case, the acceleration would be coordinate acceleration though, and not proper acceleration and does not require anything other than a non-inertial FoR.

It is apparent that a beam of light will bend exactly as a body would if thrown horizontally with a velocity equal to that of light...  but only in a gravitational
field.  In the 240k mile (approx) vacuum of space between Earth and the Moon, there would be no horizontal travel arc at all.  Therefore, in the 1.3 sec it takes to reach the Moon, the Moon will have traveled 780km through space (using 600k km/s speed of Milky Way).  Thoughts?
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Help a newbie out!
« Last post by Boodidlie on October 20, 2017, 10:45:44 PM »
We're here to spread our beliefs on how the Earth currently is, not how it was or how it came to be.

I thought it was a good question for "Philosophy, Religion & Society"
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Help a newbie out!
« Last post by Pete Svarrior on October 20, 2017, 09:05:01 PM »
Now that you've heard from some of our more... uh, vibrant... regulars, let me try to actually answer the question.

general stance on religion
Most Flat Earthers here are non-religious or agnostic. However, we do not officially/collectively endorse or condemn any religious beliefs. There is no need to create needless divisions.

how the world came to be
Not really a subject that concerns us. We're here to spread our beliefs on how the Earth currently is, not how it was or how it came to be.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Soliloquies
« Last post by Jura-Glenlivet on October 20, 2017, 01:16:51 PM »
When you do go postal please kill me first as I want not to live in the world you would leave in your wake. Much obliged.

Ah how swiftly they change, but as you request your name is added to the list.



You needn't worry. By insulting The Who, Jura has hastened her own demise. Teams of bullet ants have already been dispatched.

There is an ocean between me and your bullet ants, death god.

As for the Who, they are pretty much the yardstick for absolutely no fucking taste whatsoever, whilst believing you’re cool. Such a handsome face, such a shame.
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Flat Earth General / Re: Impossible Daytime Moon Phases in Round Earth Theory
« Last post by StinkyOne on October 20, 2017, 12:15:31 PM »
Does anyone here understand how spheres can look like discs when seen head on? Is this site for real or is it a clever gimmick to sell advert click throughs? I have never seen so much snatch trying to minge up a simple piece of well renowned and easy to understand logic.

This is the last place on earth I would expect to find any snatch.  Except maybe at a Sys Admin party.

Am sys admin, can confirm.   :(
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: What is the flat earth position?
« Last post by StinkyOne on October 20, 2017, 11:54:31 AM »
Does it give the right information for your location?

Maybe it does. I have not really checked.

Perfectly timed example Tom! You criticize the scientific method for trying to prove it's own hypothesis and hold your Zetetic method in high regard (which claims to evaluate EVERY POSSIBILITY to thus ensure that the TRUTH is found) and yet here you are offered something that may challenge your hypothesis and you avoid it! Same detail in another thread when they were asking you to do something with a piece of string to check the angles of the moon and you responded something akin to" why would I conduct your experiments?". Not the actions of a real truth seeker I think, more like someone who is exactly trying to prove only their own hypothesis and shying from any test that may challenge it!
He makes a fair point about it potentially being possible to predict sunrise/set times with pattern-based software. Looking at things here: http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php they don't appear to vary too much for the same day year to year. I have a suspicion a pattern could be there, but have neither the time nor the tools to attempt to find out. I'm not sure the timing of sunrise/set are all that amazing of a proof for RE anyway without conclusive proof they're found using the movement of the planets. I personally feel it's been provided elsewhere, but that's neither here nor there. The fact it happens at all is far greater evidence against FE in my opinion. I do hope Tom can find the time to get back to the most recent perspective thread though. I'm so very curious about his reply.

Except I went through the documentation provided by the developer of SOFA and showed that there was zero evidence of this pattern-based stuff Tom made up. In fact, all of the relevant functions I looked at were using trig to calculate positions and times down to the microsecond. But hey, who needs facts on this board when we have Zetetecists and their thorough method?  ::)
Oh I agree. As I said "...conclusive proof they're found using the movement of the planets. I personally feel it's been provided elsewhere..." It's just the information has relatively small variance, and I suspect it's POSSIBLE there could in fact be a pattern of some form to it. I just don't have the ability to go dredging through years worth of data points to try and see if there is one. That doesn't mean the suggestion that timeanddate.com (which as Tom mentioned DID refuse to give us what they use) could potentially be using it has no merit. Just that we have other sources that clearly show an equation based upon planetary motion and it's answers match all other sources we have that just give that info.

Sorry, this wasn't directed at you so much as I was using it as a jumping off point to remind Tom that I already showed him that it wasn't pattern based.

As I recall you were going to look further into the SOFA math and then disappeared from the thread.
Nope, I posted.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Soliloquies
« Last post by Rama Set on October 20, 2017, 11:39:31 AM »
When you do go postal please kill me first as I want not to live in the world you would leave in your wake. Much obliged.

You needn't worry. By insulting The Who, Jura has hastened her own demise. Teams of bullet ants have already been dispatched.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Soliloquies
« Last post by devils advocate on October 20, 2017, 07:27:00 AM »
When you do go postal please kill me first as I want not to live in the world you would leave in your wake. Much obliged.
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Flat Earth Debate / Re: NASA conspiracy
« Last post by mtnman on October 20, 2017, 03:42:04 AM »
It makes me a little sad to think how many people say NASA is a fraud. 

This is one of the most profound photos ever taken.  Michael Collins took this from the Apollo XI command module.  The LEM with Armstrong and Aldrin and the earth.   It includes every human alive except one.  Collins himself.  How can you not be moved by this?

This was one of the most amazing things mankind has ever done. 

Yes it is profound. I had seen that and similar pictures for years before reading a comment about all mankind being in the field of the picture except Collins. Very cool.

Of course, in RET, if you stand on even a modest hill - when there are no airplanes nearby and the ISS is not overhead - then using a 180 degree fish-eye lens - you could take a photo in which all of mankind was in the field of the picture except you yourself!

It sounded more impressive when Collins said it!
It's a shame that the flat Earth isn't rectangular, so you could go to one of the corners for that picture.