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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 10:28:29 PM »
My mistake, it was actually 44% above average at the peak. This is all cause mortality over the last winter.
By Christmas it was 30% above the average you'd expect for the time of year, by early Feb it peaked at 44% above the average.
I'd suggest that's hardly a "nothing to see here" scenario.
But how do I know it is covid and not the other things we mentioned? Because covid has been 'mentioned' on their death certificate?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 10:09:26 PM »
He has a what 5% uplift on normal deaths?
No. The rate over the winter was 30% above average at its peak.
You are comparing the death rate over the course of a year with an extreme peak over a winter.
As your graph shows, and here's one going back 30 years, the peaks of deaths last year bucked a 30 year falling trend of death rates:



And that is just 2020 data, many of the deaths over the winter were in 2021 so this year will most likely show a similar rise above the average and otherwise falling trend. Just pretending it's a fuss about nothing flies in the face of the data.
Your graph shows exactly what mine shows.

That deaths have been falling for years and that this is a small uptick. Where do you get 30% from? I'm looking at the graph YOU provided. I see 5-10% max. There is no legend on the graph. What do the numbers on the left even mean? 1000 deaths? Is it even for the UK? Is it about deaths or sales of hot tubs during the pandemic.

A small reversal in a trend is hardly world ending stuff. And your doctor friend sounds like he and his ilk are milking it for all its worth.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 09:38:12 PM »
I recently spoke to an ICU Doctor. His hospital was choc full over the winter and he was routinely having to tell families bad news in a way he's never had to before. To act like nothing was going on last winter is not a reasonable position.
The man is telling you lies. There is no way he has never had to give out so much bad news.



It is a tiny surge, and one that is equalled by anyone practising for more than 12 years. He has a what 5% uplift on normal deaths? That's not "in a way he's never had to before". That's another fucking doctor trying to martyr himself. I really think the NHS draws in a certain kind of wanker. Those who want never ending thanks and to be constantly recognised as better and more important than everyone else. That doctor is an outright liar. And 2020 has shown most people in healthcare seem to be similarly self-absorbed.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 09:23:24 PM »
You picked one guy and your response is ... 129,000 must all be like that guy.
Your response is that 129,000 people died because they didn't get hip replacements. Behave.
Yes, there will be an impact of this. But bullshit is that the cause of this many extra deaths.
Don't you tell me to behave!  >o<

You are asking about just 129,000 deaths.
Quote from: https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/nhs-delivery-and-workforce/pressures/pressure-points-in-the-nhs
The BMA estimates that, between April 2020 and May 2021, there were:

3.63 million fewer elective procedures
23.67 million fewer outpatient attendances.
I'm suggesting that of the 3.63 million procedures cancelled, 3.5% of them might have been important enough have killed people. Or of the 23.67 million outpatient visits, maybe some of them would have detected something more serious and saved a life or tens of thousands of them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 08:52:18 PM »
So something was killing a lot more people than the average.
How about cancelling all their operations and cancer treatements?
There will be certainly be a long term impact of this. And there's a debate to be had about whether it was worth it.
But no, that doesn't explain the immediate rise in deaths. One bloke the article quotes - who, you may note, is alive - says as much:

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“The surgery was rebooked for 5 January but was again cancelled the day before. My oncologist told me that all [non-emergency] surgery is now cancelled indefinitely,” said the man, who asked to remain anonymous.
“Without this surgery my cancer may grow, spread or become untreatable, in which case I will be dead within the next few years.”
You picked one guy and your response is ... 129,000 must all be like that guy.

How many people got ill and died almost immediately because there was no help?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8996249/Why-GPs-refusing-patients-face-face.html

How many people with serious concerns stayed away?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/27/fears-seriously-ill-a-and-e-numbers-drop-coronavirus-nhs

In other news, those doctors who refuse to see patients, the administrators who cancelled hundreds of thousands of operations and the nurses who refused to help people because they didn't have facemasks ... have all threatened to go on strike unless they get a 12.5% pay rise.

Seriously, fuck the NHS. Its full of free-loaders who are canonized for being as lazy as possible. They never stop moaning and they can never be paid enough. Fuck em all off and REGULATE private health providers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 08:31:58 PM »
So something was killing a lot more people than the average.
How about cancelling all their operations and cancer treatements?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/31/patients-in-limbo-after-cancelled-cancer-surgery-as-covid-delays-nhs-care

The NHS has probably killed 129,000 people. I'm not sure covid has.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 08:14:58 PM »
They have been very effective in Australia who have locked down hard and quickly.
No they haven't.

Yes they have.
I don't believe our 129,000 number. Died 'with' covid makes this number utter bullshit. We'll never know how many people died 'of' covid, but I suspect it is an embarrassingly small number considering the economic havoc wreaked to prevent the spread.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: embed tweets
« on: July 27, 2021, 07:46:57 PM »
That's actually really nice. Thanks.  :-*


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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 27, 2021, 07:24:27 PM »
But I see you have already well prepared your argument for that moment : Realtime AI

So basically, we won't ever get any farther then square one, will we?
Its going to get harder and harder to believe anything you see on video.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 27, 2021, 07:06:08 PM »
They have been very effective in Australia who have locked down hard and quickly.
No they haven't. Australia has had problems enforcing them. Just doing a thing isn't the same as doing it well.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/25/covid-sydney-police-punish-anti-lockdown-protesters


^This is hardly efficiency. Australians are out punching horses, rather than staying at home locked up.


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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 27, 2021, 06:41:56 PM »
Here's what I did in order to make clear that the photo you posted does not show concave curvature in my opinion:
(For your reference: I used the free Inkscape drawing program. It is a vector based program)
 - I drew a dashed line over the horizon. I used a dashed type of line,  so that you are able to verify for yourself that I'm not selecting some arbitrary points in the picture
 - Then I drew a straight line which connects both extremes of the visible horizon
 - I added a horizontal line for reference
    see this picture: https://imgur.com/N7vkwuA
 - I exported this picture to png
 - Then I resized the width from 100% to 20% without preserving the aspect ratio and saved it as a 2nd picture. This allows to see curved lines more pronounced.
    Please note that the straight lines which I drew are still straight. Only the angle of the line which connects both extremes of the visible horizon has changed (more tilted), the shape has not changed.
 

I hope at least it explains why I'm not seeing any concaved curve. The line of the horizon is a bit fuzzy, so I would understand if you don't agree 100% with the dotted line I drew, but I'm willing to exchange the Inkscape csv file if you like.

Best regards

But you can easily distort something close to you when something far away looks fine and vice-versa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography)

Think about how big a person's nose can look close to a camera that makes something in the distance look fine. You can't say, the thing close up look about right so the thing in the distance must also look right.


In order for an image to be in focus both near and far, you need a very short focal length and as you can see above, that screws up how things look close to the camera. If you corrected those, you'd screw up those far from the camera.

In other words, we'd need more info about lens and equipment and to be sure we weren't being told lies before we'd accept your photoshop images. I'd also want to know that Virgin weren't using some kind of Realtime AI round earth image correction to make their hoax seem more 'real' in this day and age.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: embed tweets
« on: July 27, 2021, 06:23:33 PM »
Of course - just submit a PR once you're done and we'll happily integrate it. No need to ask here.
A press release? A pull request? A purchase request? A performance review? A peer review? Some personal responsibility? A problem/resolution?

What the hell do you want from me?  >o<

I do think this seems like a reasonable suggestion, and probably not terribly difficult to implement. I don't know when I'll have time to look at it, but I will when I get a chance.
It'd be nice. It's a want, not a need, so if you can great, if not I'll understand how terribly inefficient you all are over in the EU and I will find some way to blame Von Der Leyen for this.

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Suggestions & Concerns / embed tweets
« on: July 26, 2021, 10:45:20 PM »
I can Embed youtube videos. I can't embed tweets. Increasingly the likes of NASA, celebs, politicians and famous scientists use twitter to make a snappy quote. I'd like to use those in my posts, but alas I can only include a screen shot of them. Please improve my user experience.

Thank you.

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Hi Kevin.

First, let me congratulate you on all your parent's money.

Why would a flat earther do this? You've very very little chance of making this happen. Even if you could get one flat earther ... but you want 3!

Flat earthers tend to be quite reclusive anyway. They aren't big on revealing themselves as this can lead to limited employment opportunities and social issues in their personal lives.

We also don't go ramming our theories down other people's throats. We let the curious come to us.

I'm sorry, its a nice idea, but I can't see you getting 3 flat earthers for a panel. You can keep trying to reason with people here, beg, bribe and argue ... but you'll just be wasting your time as your deadline looms closer. I'd suggest you come up with something else. I can't think of 3 flat earthers on this site that would be willing to do this. Sorry. I hope this reply saves you some time and allows you to come up with a new plan.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 24, 2021, 10:04:04 AM »
And 100%, in my opinion, Sir Richard and the other passengers have been to space, but have not earned anything.
100%? That's incredibly sure of something. I'm not even 100% sure we even exist and I'm not really one for weird thought experiments.

So you think that there are clouds in space then?

Its not just me. Even Jeff Bezos doesn't think Branson got into space + Branson gets an asterix by his name. 100%? Are you sure you don't want to rein that in a bit? The guy used an aircraft and flew there. You can't fly to space using wings. It is preposterous.

https://www.businessinsider.com/blue-origin-says-branson-space-flight-wont-count-2021-7?r=US&IR=T

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 24, 2021, 07:02:13 AM »
The FAA know as we all do that this is a very 'cheap' claim from these billionaires who have trawled for the lowest bar possible and want to hand out the accolade of astronaut to anyone who pays up.

Now that's not really what NASA et al want. They want you to think astronauts are brave. And so when men were in rocket aircraft in the 1960s breaking speed and altitude records, they wanted to give them something for that. Little astronaut wings. But just sitting on a small private aircraft to receive the same honour cheapens it.

So they've got them on "You just sat there and did nothing". I'm sure they'd like to get them on "You're not in space" but then they have to remove the honours they handed out to men who actually deserved them.

But the thing about truth is that the FAAs or NASAs version of it is neither here nor there. At 85km ... Branson is still in the territory of clouds. I don't care what NASA say, you don't get clouds in space.




Will be interesting to see if the pilots of Branson's aircraft get given astronaut wings because they weren't sat there doing nothing. That would put Branson's nose right out of joint.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 24, 2021, 06:36:48 AM »
Who gets up at 5am to post stuff like this on here?!
The early bird catches the worm. Also I had an inkling that somebody was wrong about something on the internet, and sure enough Xasop had replied to one of my posts.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 24, 2021, 04:53:22 AM »
Bahahahahaahaha! 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57950149

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 24, 2021, 04:40:43 AM »
Whether or not Bezos or Branson officiaaly reached space doen´t actually matter. What´s important  is that they went high enough to clearly see the curvature of the Earrh.

If they are lying about going to space, why suddenly trust them when they say the earth is a ball?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Civil unrest in South Africa
« on: July 19, 2021, 09:25:10 PM »
No news of this in the UK.
There is. Granted, I had to click through to World and then Africa to find it, but it's there.
Its not been front and centre. And you don't see anything about this in the TV news. You have to hear of it from somewhere and dig for it.

Our media won't portray black people in a negative light, even if that means not telling us what is going on. The following image makes their liberal eyes bleed.




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