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Like I said, the state has no business running people's lives for them. That applies to polygamy as well as homosexuality.
Why should gay marriage be legal?
The decision was actually that denying homosexuals a marriage was discriminatory and in violation of the 14tj amendment rights. It was not a positive legislation for same sex marriage. Nice try though
Why should gay marriage be legal?
Because the state has no business regulating people's personal lives one way or another.
Hey Tom. I think it would be interesting to review the ENaG text, and to review all scriptural quotes, and explore them thoroughly, and see how Rowbotham was using them to defend his idea of Flat Earth. I could also explore possibly some of the other quotes that he used as well. But I would start with the Scripture first. What do you think?
The description of a man in his thirties he saw only once fits Wernher von Braun better than Magnus, however.
So you're saying that the public is poorly informed on the information you discovered in (waitforit) Time Magazine... So you're reaching out to newspapers to
We are doing something very moral and humanitarian by bringing this issue to light...Scholars like us who are looking into these issues have a social responsibility to get this information out there.
I can only speak to what you've produced here, but you're not doing any scholarship. You're not bringing any new issues to light, and the information you're using is already "out there." That's how you found it.
scholar
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1. a learned or erudite person, especially one who has profound knowledge of a particular subject.
It also doesn't agree with you. Immediately after that quote, the author writes:QuoteMorand goes on to state that he was known as "one of the inventors of the "V2" and made frequent "rapid inspections" of the hall.
The administration of corporal punishment in the tunnels, as opposed to the camp, would have been quite unusual, but we have no reason to doubt the story altogether. Yet it may rest on a case of mistaken identity. In September 1944 Wernher von Braun assigned his younger brother Magnus, a twenty-five-year-old chemical engineer and Luftwaffe pilot, as his special liaison to the Mittelwerk, particularly for servomotor production, which was afflicted with serious technical problems. Although still an employee of Peenemunde, Magnus von Braun stayed in the Nordhausen area full-time until the evacuation of April 1945. In contrast, his elder brother visited the Mittelwerk, by his estimates, twelve or fifteen times in total. Morand gives the time of the incident as the "second half of 1944," which corresponds to Magnus von Braun's assignment to the factory, and the testimonial never actually gives "von Braun" a first name.
Morand's story necessarily brings Jouanin's identification into question, as both deal with the servomotors. Although Jouanin's first instinct on timing was early May 1944, when I wrote him about it, he was less than certain. The description of a man in his thirties he saw only once fits Wernher von Braun better than Magnus, however. In the end, it is impossible to say with certainty that Georges Jouanin's identification of Wernher von Braun can be accepted as meeting a reasonable standard of certainty, as believable as I find it personally. Nor can we conclude with assurance that Magnus von Braun was responsible for either incident. For purposes of drawing up a balance sheet of Werher von Braun' s involvement with the SS and the concentration camps, therefore, we have little choice but to leave all stories of abuse aside.
Cherry-picking quotes from sources you claim are hiding things from you isn't scholarship.Historians may already know of some of this, but apparently they are not doing anything about it. Well, I am. I am bringing this issue to public attention and demanding that NASA apologies to the world for protecting and supporting murderers like Werner Von Braun.
Morand goes on to state that he was known as "one of the inventors of the "V2" and made frequent "rapid inspections" of the hall.
What positive steps have you taken to bring this issue to the public's attention? I mean, the historians you're so quick to criticize (and upon whose scholarship you're relying) have actually collected primary and secondary source material on the subject, analyzed it, and published it for public consumption. That sounds like a lot more than you've done, which to my count is make a post on a web forum visited by about a dozen regular users.
Like the good Nazi he was, he immediately started shouting that it was
sabotage, when just at that point VON BRAUN arrived accompanied by
his usual group of people. Without even listening to my explanations, he
ordered the Meister to have me given 25 strokes in his presence by an SS
[man] who was there. Then judging the strokes weren't sufficiently hard,
he ordered that I be flogged more vigorously, and this order was then
diligently carried out, which caused much hilarity in the group, and
following this flogging, VON BRAUN made me translate that I deserved
much more, that in fact I deserved to be hanged, which certainly would be
the fate of the "Mensch" (good-for nothing) I was.
Indeed, some 20,000 died at Dora, from illness, beatings, hangings and intolerable working conditions. Workers, scantily clad, were forced to stand at attention in the biting cold during roll calls that went on for hours. Average survival time in the unventilated paint shop was one month. One prisoner told of being bitten on his legs by guard dogs. Presumably to test the effectiveness of a new medication, one of his legs was treated, the other allowed to fester and deteriorate.
For reasons best known to von Braun, who held the rank of colonel in the dreaded Nazi SS, the prisoners were ordered to turn their backs whenever he came into view. Those caught stealing glances at him were hung. One survivor recalled that von Braun, after inspecting a rocket component, charged, "That is clear sabotage." His unquestioned judgment resulted in eleven men being hanged on the spot. Says Gehrels, "von Braun was directly involved in hangings."
Hangings were commonplace, and Dora inmates remember von Braun arriving in the morning with an unidentified woman, having to step between bodies of dead prisoners and under others still hanging from a crane. These were not ordinary hangings, Gehrels says, "not hanging that breaks the neck of the prisoner, but they were slowly choked to death with a kind of baling wire around their neck."
That proves your claim is invalid if you cannot prove it. What would you predict it to be?
If the sun is above me what will the angle be at 4 positions 1000 miles away from me, each at 90, 180, 270 and 360 degrees?Diagram please with observed measurements.We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?
Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
Why do you need a diagram to know that when you are beneath the sun it will be overhead and when you are 1000 miles away from it, it will be at an angle to you?
Diagram please with observed measurements.We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?
Different points on earth would have different perspective lines in relation the the surface and the sun, and will therefore see see the sun in a different position in the sky.
We have an article on this subject: http://wiki.tfes.org/The_Setting_of_the_SunThat makes no sense at all. How about measurements from many different places at the same time?
I find this US-centric discussion rather amusing. All I hear is NASA, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, SpaceX. We get it; US defense companies are big baddies in cahoots with the US governemt. I also understand that NASA plays a big role in the Conspiracy; hell, the wiki page on the motive of the Conspiracy mentions no one but NASA.
That's because US defense companies are NASA. If NASA fired all of their contractors they would be firing something like 95% (actually probably more) of their workforce. When we reference NASA we are referencing those US defense companies.QuoteThis Conspiracy is a fantastic piece of international cooperation.
Most of those countries put up satellites through US defense contractors. NASA entities have putting up satellites for foreign countries from day one. In reality the "satellite" is probably a high altitude dirigible known as a Stratellite.
Boeing, for example, claims to have giant sea platforms from which it launches rockets conveniently out of sight of the world, taking orders from international clients to put up "Satellites".QuoteP.S. What's also interesting is that the FES wiki page I linked above makes a big point of Lyndon Johnson's resolution to establish NASA in 1958, seemingly implying the Conspiracy began with NASA. However it was the Soviets that first claimed to put a satellite in space in 1957, when NASA didn't even exist yet.
Is it the Soviets that initiated the Conspiracy, then? Did the US merely go along with it?
They were likely separate conspiracies. The competition started in 1951 when the US NAVY unsuccessfully tried to reverse engineer one of Hitler's V2 rockets and send it into space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1951_in_spaceflight
As you can see the American rockets were mostly failures, while the Russian rockets were mostly successes. Over the span of 7 years of competition the Americans lagged behind in Russian claims. When Russia claimed to put up Sputnik into orbit late 1957, and thus able to reach America with its rockets, it was a breaking point where the US realized it needed to do something drastic, such as start a phony space program early the next year.
Don't you think it's convenient that the US launched a successful satellite in under 3 months after Russia's satellite, despite 6 years of failure?
