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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Lord Dave on November 07, 2024, 11:27:11 PM »

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

And then despots around the world will learn that all you have to do is threaten America with nuclear weapons and they'll cave to just about anything. "Make America the Weakest It's Been Since the American Revolution" would have been a better tagline for Trump's campaign.

No no, no threats.
Just say "Mr. president, you are an amazing leader and the best leader America has seen.  Can I have a nuke?"

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Flat Earth Theory / Aiming ICBMs question

« Last post by jimster on November 07, 2024, 10:50:59 PM »

A couple of days ago a Minuteman III was launched from Vandenburg, possibly as a demonstration of American power in this time of conflict around the world. They have been testing ICBMs since the 1960s and the internet says there have been multiple instrumented test ranges to see where they splashed down. They have used radar, a grid of undersea microphones, and currently gps and radio transmitter on the missile. Physicists/mathemiticians calculate the theoretical landing site.  The scientists/military/government say that this is all consistent, the equations work and the missiles land where they are supposed to. This is all said to be based on the globe map and RE physics and equations.

Even over the range of missiles in current use in the middle east. If the earth is flat, the targets hundreds of miles away are in very different places than if the earth is round. I submit that it is impossible to accurately target a missile over hundreds, even thousands of miles if you are using the wrong map.

Do they think the earth is round or flat? If they are using the wrong map and equations, how do they hit where they aim? If they don't hit where they aim, are countries all over the world faking the ability and the danger? Are there thousands people who work on this in multiple countries who know the earth is flat? Do they have a flat earth map? If they do, can we get it and put it in the wiki and delete the current ones? If they don't, how are they hitting their targets?

Suggested explanation: Yes, they shoot rockets and hit where they aim and think that the earth is round BUT there are forces bending things so that their untrue assumptions about the shape of earth still result in consistency with their observations. If asked about evidence or equations for this, make up a name for the force like "Ballistic Acceleration". Of course there is no observational evidence math equations, but there are none for Universal Acceleration or Electromagnetic Acceleration, so apparently that's not a deal breaker.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Fortuna on November 07, 2024, 09:53:17 PM »

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

And then despots around the world will learn that all you have to do is threaten America with nuclear weapons and they'll cave to just about anything. "Make America the Weakest It's Been Since the American Revolution" would have been a better tagline for Trump's campaign.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Lord Dave on November 07, 2024, 07:17:44 PM »

Just to chime in.

Democrats didn't cause inflation since it's a global issue.  Unless you wanna make the claim that US policy caused inflation world wide.

That being said, Trump can (and probably will) lower gas prices quickly by removing the sanctions on Russia and withdrawing support for Ukraine.  This will cause Russian oil to flow into America, increasing supply and decreasing price.
Trump will then sell weapons to Russia and help them destroy the evil Nazis in Ukraine. Prices will stabilize in about 3 years as Ukraine becomes a vessel of Russia.  Again. 


Let's see how well this holds up.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by AATW on November 07, 2024, 06:44:12 PM »

all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

Wow, that's all you have to do to get voted into presidency?

In the scenario when people think things are going to shit and blame the current government for that it goes a long way.

Kamala also said she would fix things

Yes, but she is part of the current administration which people believe have caused their problems.

With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Well that’s debatable.
I don’t think he handled Covid well - repeatedly denying the seriousness of it and saying it was all under control. I disagree with a lot of his positions on climate change and immigration. But sure, “gas” was cheaper, groceries were cheaper. Those are things which affect people day to day.
My take is the inflation has been caused in part by the hangover from the pandemic and the situation in Ukraine, I don’t think its all been because of the Democrats and I’m not convinced Trump will fix it. But I’d be the first to admit I’m no expert on economics so I guess we’ll see.

I hope he does a good job, no one wins out of it being a complete shit show.

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Technology & Information / Re: The Flat Earth Society official IRC chat

« Last post by rooster on November 07, 2024, 06:28:48 PM »

RIP mibbit and kiwi

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Tom Bishop on November 07, 2024, 06:06:00 PM »

all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.

Wow, that's all you have to do to get voted into presidency?

Kamala also said she would fix things. However, she was clearly not qualified, and doesn't have any good track record. With Trump we can look back and see that the country was in a better state.

Joe Biden pointed out in September that Kamala handled "everything from foreign policy to domestic policy" under his administration. This and his other comments in the effort to help Kamala really worked against her. Basically this:

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Action80 on November 07, 2024, 05:45:21 PM »

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

Okay.

You clearly do not understand.

Past precedent refers to prior events, setting the stage for future situations.

So, instead of you writing, "...from precedent, which implies that this has happened before..."

You would write, '...from precedent, which implies that things have happened before..."

Precedent typically involves the thing you're talking about.  Saying "from past precedent of how you walk your dog, I conclude that the country is going to crash" isn't precedent.

Forgive everyone who reads this for not taking your lack of comprehension seriously.

Precedent includes prior events that could lay the work for a future decision or outcome.

Your interpretation and understanding are clearly lacking substance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by Lord Dave on November 07, 2024, 05:04:28 PM »

And when was it over last time?

Do you even understand what I wrote?

You said from precedent, which implies that this has happened before and the country came to end or very nearly did.

Okay.

You clearly do not understand.

Past precedent refers to prior events, setting the stage for future situations.

So, instead of you writing, "...from precedent, which implies that this has happened before..."

You would write, '...from precedent, which implies that things have happened before..."

Precedent typically involves the thing you're talking about.  Saying "from past precedent of how you walk your dog, I conclude that the country is going to crash" isn't precedent.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: US Presidential Election 2024

« Last post by AATW on November 07, 2024, 04:56:34 PM »

I thought this was interesting. A good explanation in why all the mud slinging from the Democrats was ineffective.
Obviously Trump was doing that too, but the bottom line is people aren't happy with how things are going, they blame the Democrats and will elect anyone who says they'll make things better. I'm not convinced he will, but all he had to do was say he would and all the other stuff he does just doesn't matter to people.