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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« Last post by AllAroundTheWorld on Today at 06:58:02 AM »

Holy shit! How hard is this to understand?
You catch HIV from bumming, not from being coughed on by someone near you.
Stop with the false equivalence nonsense.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« Last post by Toddler Thork on Today at 06:51:02 AM »

Banning access to public spaces seems problematic to me. Banning access to private business, not so much.

Do you think a restaurant should be able to ask you if you have HIV? What about Grinder? Do you think Grinder should be able to check if you have HIV? Do you think you should have to send an HIV passport to use Grinder or Tinder or any other dating service to sign up? They are private businesses. Do you think other people using the service should receive text messages from state backed phone apps telling them they have been near someone with HIV? Could be very useful information after a first date to keep you safe. Unlike coronavirus, HIV is life changing for most people.

Should schools test all the kids for HIV? Kids are forever picking up cuts and bruises.

Should you need an HIV passport to go into a night club or a bar? I mean, you could infect other patrons ... especially as many are intoxicated.


If the answer is "No Thork, my liberal panties are bunching because you'd be persecuting the gays" ... then we can agree your medical history is private, companies do not have a right to it and that is why doctors swear a Hippocratic oath.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« Last post by honk on Today at 04:42:23 AM »

Could you elaborate on that? I fail to see the difference - both carry the exact same implication, and were done with the same intention. The main difference, it seems, is that orange man bad. Other than that, we only have the small difference of Trump trying to get his name on the cheques, and Biden trying to publicly announce how much he doesn't want his name on the cheques because he's so much better and purer than Trump.

Biden's letter contains information that is clear, correct, and relevant, but inappropriate to include in that context. Trump's signature, however, doesn't communicate any information, and so feels manipulative, like a psychological trick to try and make people associate their check with Trump without actually making a logical case for why Trump deserves credit for the check. To put it another way, both presidents took advantage of sending out these checks for their own political gain, but Biden was upfront about it while Trump did it in an underhanded way.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« Last post by Iceman on Today at 01:40:27 AM »

Yep, Trump's signature put the cherry on top, but both moves are shite sammiches still.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« Last post by Roundy on Today at 01:33:55 AM »

I think there's an appreciable difference between the president including a self-congratulatory letter with the check and insisting that his own signature be on the check itself.

I don't.  It's a negligible margin at best. It might expose Trump as more of a narcissist, but there's nothing inherently "wronger" about it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« Last post by Rama Set on Today at 01:18:54 AM »

Banning access to public spaces seems problematic to me. Banning access to private business, not so much. Especially something like air travel, which is a massive channel for transmission.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You

« Last post by caffemocha33 on Today at 12:58:39 AM »

I have no issues with this.  Its no different than a digital drivers license, digital boarding passes, digital payment, etc...

Its basically big tech taking paper documentation (which you'd need to have on you) and making it a secure digital copy that officials will accept instead of a piece of paper you printed out.

Do you believe that there's going to be any specific benefits in enforcing vaccine passports? Do you see any issue with it at all?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please

« Last post by Iceman on May 05, 2021, 09:42:42 PM »

Or to help bridge the gap, you could also take a gander at things from Mawson Research station, at a longitude halfway between Perth and Cape Town
https://www.antarctica.gov.au/antarctic-operations/webcams/mawson/

Or any of the other research stations but I used that one as an example here because of its location, and because the Aussie antarctic survey is cited in the FES wiki for other southern hemisphere phenomena, so it is (in theory) a trusted source.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: i dont understand someone help please

« Last post by SteelyBob on May 05, 2021, 09:29:45 PM »

Thought I'd show this for anybody who's interested. There was some discussion on this thread and others about whether it is ever dark simultaneously in Australia, South America and Africa. So right now, at 2115UTC, this is the day/night picture according to this website:



And, looking at this webcam in Recife, on the east coast of Brazil, it is getting dark: https://www.climaaovivo.com.br/pe/recife

And this webcam, in Cape Town, south Africa, it is dark: http://www.capetown-webcam.com

And on this webcam, in Perth, Australia, it's 5.15am and the sun is just coming up: https://www.windy.com/-Webcams/Australia/Western-Australia/Perth/Swanbourne-South/webcams/1203350464?-31.971,102.568,5

All of this is precisely as predicted by the time and date website, so I'm pretty confident that if we were to check again at around 21:40UTC on the longest night of the year for the southern hemisphere, 21 June, then we'd have decent darkness in all three continents.

Any dissent on that? Anybody wish to disagree, or are we happy with the validity of the website? I'm afraid the webcams I found don't have timestamps, so you'll have to actually check yourselves at around the same time.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 05, 2021, 09:20:05 PM »

Trying to follow Lackey (Action)'s train of thought is so difficult.

He seems to be in the line of "What is good for me, is good for everyone".  Now while I'm sure he thinks his neighbor having a nuke is safer than the US government, I'm gonna feel that its not as safe.  So why does Action's safety trump my own?  Why is it that the right to Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness extend to him, but not to me?  Why is it that HIS rights can't be infringed upon, but mine?  Sure.  Seems rather hypocritical.  His guns make me less safe. 
If he wants to defend himself: Ban all guns and give everyone a shortsword.  See?  Problem solved.  Also note: weapons are man made. FYI.  So is religion. So is the press.  So is prison.  Hell, so is law.

Also: The Constitution and law was heavily influenced by John Locke and the British Government, not so much Jeudo-Christian teachings.  Like Jeudo-Christians would NEVER have put freedom of religion in there.  It's "God or Death" for the True Christian nations. 

Also:
Amendment 7 probably needs some updating.  $20 was a lot back then.  Not so much now.