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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Reorganizing The Zetetic Council: Yay or Nay

« on: April 12, 2015, 09:39:46 PM »

Tausami votes 'Yay'

I officially endorse Tom's idea.

The big problem with the ZC, in my experience with it, is that when ideas are brought up all 5 members are never available to discuss it or vote on it, and discussions consistently stagnate. Then the people who were active get tired of yelling into a void and disappear for months and the cycle continues.

If Tom's plan is implemented (presumably after reunification), I see several things happening. First, the ZC process becomes a lot more democratic. If you care enough to be reading this, you would probably be able to vote under Tom's idea. I like that. The regulars here tend to have good ideas. With careful moderation of the ZC board (I would propose, albeit without thinking about the idea too hard, that the ZC members be able to moderate the board), it could be a great place for the society and Flat Earth Theory to prosper. It would fix the stagnation problem, too, because discussion of the ideas would not be limited to ZC members.

The current ZC is an ineffective organization. I think Tom's proposal would fix the main reasons that's the case.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Reorganizing The Zetetic Council: Yay or Nay

« on: April 12, 2015, 09:38:35 PM »

We are looking for a decision on this idea to reorganize the Zetetic Council with this proposal I made on the on the ZC forum. It was felt by some that we need a decision from the community before making such drastic changes.

I've been kicking ideas around in my head for how we can make the Zetetic Council better. I had a few ideas. My conclusion is as follows:

1. We open up Flat Earth Society membership to all who want it. As a member of the Flat Earth Society your name goes onto a roster, you agree to fight globularist heresy in all its forms, and you will receive a certificate reflecting this (virtual or printed TBD).

2. As a official member of the Flat Earth Society you receive standing recognition and access to in the Zetetic Council Board

3. Zeteic Council members are elected and are tasked with creating and putting proposals to a vote. Zetetic Council members provide organizational guidance, but are not considered the workhorses.

4. Official members of the Flat Earth Society vote and comment on the proposals, and in doing so self motivate themselves to begin the project and see it to completion.

We may want to rename the Zetetic Council Board to another name, but I believe this idea has a lot of merit. I welcome comments on this idea.

Please respond with Yay or Nay and any comments. A decision will be made in 1 week.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: April 08, 2015, 06:35:36 PM »

How is an unplanned panorama any more legitimate than a planned panorama?

Think.

Secondly, the Apollo astronauts didn't carry video cameras. but they did take panoramas with their still cameras.
http://moonpans.com/prints/fullpans.htm

There are a lot of examples where astronauts have hand-held video cameras.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: April 07, 2015, 12:11:41 AM »

We all know about those panoramas. Those were specifically staged parts of the missions, taken with special rotating equipment, this one being from the Lunar Rover.

I am saying, that the video cameras the astronauts had should have made sweeping views of the landscape. It would only be natural for any astronaut new to a foreign world to do that. A staged panoramic, taken as part of the mission, falls outside of this scope.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Improving our home page

« on: April 05, 2015, 03:19:00 PM »

We should renegotiate with Daniel to have, at least, shared access over modifications to the home page.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: April 04, 2015, 11:12:57 PM »

Also, the lack of pan does not insinuate that the moon-landings are fakes either.

Actually, it does insinuate that.

Then it's a good thing that I found a video showing such a pan on the moon.

That's not video footage.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: April 04, 2015, 08:59:46 PM »

Also, the lack of pan does not insinuate that the moon-landings are fakes either.

Actually, it does insinuate that.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: April 03, 2015, 03:22:12 AM »

Actually, he's sort of right. If you rode a machine into the center of the earth, like in that one movie, and found a world of wonders, the first thing you would  naturally do with the video camera in your hand would be to pan around.

 It would be very odd if several people went down to the center of the earth and didn't pan around with their video cameras.

And if you were making a lengthy documentary of your experiences, especially, at some point you would make a half circle pan with your video camera.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: How did NASA fake zero gravity (at length) in 1969?

« on: March 31, 2015, 08:36:11 PM »

The fact that there are no long segments of weightless footage from the 60s/70s is actually a point that it was faked in a plane.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Falsification of RET

« on: March 30, 2015, 12:58:56 PM »

The major flaw in this being that it is not exclusively the government that says the Earth is round.

Who else says that the earth is round to a degree that it can't be attributed to a mistake?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The length of the day on a flat earth

« on: March 29, 2015, 10:18:27 PM »

I addressed how that is explained on that map earlier in this thread when it was brought up. I don't even use that map as my main go-to flat earth map, anyway. I typically use the one where Antarctica is a continent.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Falsification of RET

« on: March 29, 2015, 09:35:17 PM »

It all comes down to a matter of trust.

- The earth appears flat
- There are experiments conducted by different people which suggest that the earth is not convex
- The government says that the earth is round
- The government is known to lie for their own benefit
- The people conducting the convexity experiments are not known liars

Therefore, the only trustworthy evidence states that the earth is flat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The length of the day on a flat earth

« on: March 28, 2015, 08:16:19 PM »

I just posted an illustration showing that a change in angle increases in deviation with distance. What are you having trouble understanding?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The length of the day on a flat earth

« on: March 28, 2015, 07:01:39 PM »

So the effect would increase over distance.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The length of the day on a flat earth

« on: March 28, 2015, 06:59:47 PM »

If a line deviates from its position, into a new angle, the divergence from its original position will grow with distance. Consider the following illustration:



The distance between segments A and C is different at 1cm away from point B, than it is at 2 inches away from point B. The distance between A and C grew with distance.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Does John Boehner's arrogance know no limits?

« on: March 28, 2015, 04:05:04 AM »

Seriously, do we really want this guy as House Speaker?

Asked if America would be less safe if Homeland Security funding dropped off, Boenher answered: "If ands or buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas."

Actually, this is a genius "if I had a nickel" analogy which says that budget cuts are second guessed all the time and that we can't go around with unwarranted fears of what might happen every day, otherwise budgets would go unrestrained and unchecked.

Except this wasn't about cutting Homeland Security's budget.  It was about tying Homeland Security's budget to overriding Obama's immigration reform executive order.  Basically, Boehner was saying that if Congress won't repeal the executive action that allows some illegal aliens to stay, then he's going to shut down the department responsible for keeping illegal aliens out.

Congress has the power of the purse. It represents the people. If they want illegal aliens out, that's what happens.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The length of the day on a flat earth

« on: March 28, 2015, 03:00:17 AM »

Why wouldn't light rays, deflected at an angle, continue to deviate and cause the effect to increase over distance?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015

« on: March 28, 2015, 02:51:33 AM »

I am not interested in those fables. Apologize and don't post any Round Earth rubbish for three months! Also, send Thork and I all of your bitcoins as penance.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015

« on: March 27, 2015, 08:17:51 PM »

How did Columbus know where the SolarLunar Eclipse would happen in America if only the date can be predicted but not the location?

Considering a lunar eclipse can be viewed from anywhere the moon is visible, then it is not very important where you are.  It is different in the case of a solar eclipse.

Columbus predicted a Solar Eclipse.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: next eclipse on March 20th 2015

« on: March 27, 2015, 06:50:31 PM »

Thork answered how the solar eclipses are predicted.

No, he did not. He talked about the prediction of the dates of eclipses. I was talking about the path where the full eclipse would be visible (see this link). This path was calculated with a model of the solar system with a round earth (and round moon, round sun). And the question is: how is it that this RET-based calculation worked?

You failed again at answering my question. (And probably at simply understanding it).

How did Columbus know where the Solar Eclipse would happen in America if only the date can be predicted but not the location?