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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 11:32:51 PM »

Pharmaceutical companies want to make money, and would sooner step over a dead body to make a buck.

This makes absolutely no sense.

They know it's bad. They just don't care. Even if they did care, they will never give you the much better natural substances for your disease since there is no profit in it. Natural substances cannot be patented.

If the good bacteria in your gut is killed off and you develop fungal overgrowth, indigestion, IBD, Chrons, etc, you are now an income stream, giving them a whole lot money then they were getting before. Once you get to the stage of cancer you are now spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, through your insurance, making them rich.

You are going to a FOR PROFIT medical system. They have an incentive to milk you.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 11:22:00 PM »

Over the counter medication for sinus infections are common, and they are not life threatening.

Yes they are. When you go to the ENT doctor about a raging sinus infection they put you on antibiotics, which are very dangerous. Have you not heard of how dangerous antibiotics are?

Antibiotics Kill Your Body's Good Bacteria, Too, Leading to Serious Health Risks

Antibiotic widely prescribed for decades has dangerous side effects which can kill

Basically, there are 10 times more good bacteria living in harmony with your body than the actual number of human cells (See:Humans Have Ten Times More Bacteria Than Human Cells).  Your body is mostly made up of bacteria. You would be dead if it were not for these bacteria doing good things for us in exchange for survival. When you introduce an antibiotic which goes in and kills everything indiscriminately, it can causes major problems and put you on a path to a chronic fatal illness.

Natural substances merely assist and enhance the body to function better. The body is perfectly capable of curing itself. Eating good whole foods gives the body the enzymes and nutrients it needs. Eating vegetables and fruits provide the vitamins, such as Vitamin C, the body needs to function better and cure its own diseases.

Vitamin C is especially interesting when it comes to human illness because it is the primary vitamin the body uses when targeting the bad things which cause disease. The immune system targets the bad bugs and uses the natural acid of Vitamin C to dissolve them from existence. It's the ammunition the body's immune system uses when targeting disease, not the carpet bombing antibiotics are.

Broadly claiming that synthetic medicines are lethal is intellectually dishonest, because you know that's BS. Despite your paranoid delusions, pharmaceutical companies want to keep the people buying their medicines alive. Not dead.

Pharmaceutical companies want to make money, and would sooner step over a dead body to make a buck.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 10:49:10 PM »

That's not how biochemistry works

You can't overdose and die from most natural substances such as vitamins and herbs. If the body doesn't like it, it just gets rid of it. The body and bowel regulates how much Vitamin C it should absorb, and if there's too much, it just allows it to pass through.

Over many millions of years, the mammalian body has gotten to know Vitamin C very intimately. Gaining defenses against eating too many strawberries is something that would have been done very early on in evolution.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 10:06:35 PM »

You forgot the side effect of curing a chronic disease.

Eh. There are conventional medicines that do the trick better than overdosing on Vitamin C.

Vitamin C overdose is not lethal. It causes diarrhea once bowel tolerance is met. And when you reach your bowel tolerance, you then know how much to stay under. No one has died due to Vitamin C overdose. Vitamin C is an vitamin natural to the body. The body knows what to do with vitamins when there is too much of it.

Synthetic medicines are known to be lethal, on the other hand. The body does not recognize synthetic medicines, and doesn't know what to do with them. This is why many drugs have a list of side effects as long as your arm. It's a foreign, unnatural chemical. When chemicals hang around they cause damage.

More than twice as many people die from prescription drugs than from car accidents.

Would you rather put a substance into your body that is natural to it, or would you rather put an unnatural, synthetic substance?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 08:25:22 PM »

3500 milligrams of powdered unbuffered Vitamin C, taken 8 times a day, can cure a chronic sinus infection over a weekend.

Tom, the only thing that overdose is going to do is make your piss more expensive than usual.

Incorrect. Vitamin C is powerful against microbes invading the body. There are a big list of diseases it can treat.

It is a common remedy for sinus infections: http://www.sinus-pro.com/Archive/articles%202011/Vitamin_C_Ideal_for_Fighting_Sinus_Infections.asp

3500 milligrams of powdered unbuffered Vitamin C, taken 8 times a day, can cure a chronic sinus infection over a weekend.

Tom, the only thing that overdose is going to do is make your piss more expensive than usual.

It can also cause:
Diarrhea
Nausea
Vomiting
Heartburn
Abdominal bloating and cramps
Headache
Insomnia
Kidney stones

You forgot the side effect of curing a chronic disease.

Kidney stones are pretty rare. Nausea is temporary, and a good thing because it means the Vitamin C is killing the microbes infecting the body, which explode into toxins as they die. This is eventually cleaned up by the body. Insomnia would be temporary, as the body adjusts its energy levels to account for the reduced load of bacteria and viruses it must contend with.

The remaining symptoms of abdominal pain and heartburn can happen, but only if you way overdo it, since unbuffered Vitamin C is an acid. If one wishes, they can use a buffered solution with a ph that matches the human body, which is effective, but won't be as powerful as the unbuffered kind.

The risks of some minor temporary discomfort are easily outweighed by the benefits Vitamin C has with many different kinds of illnesses.

See: http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Impeachment of Roundy

« on: September 20, 2014, 07:55:05 PM »

I appreciate Roundy's contributions over the years, despite recent inactivity. I say that rather than impeachment, we promote him from Council Member to Council Adviser and give him continued access to this forum, to provide opinions and advise.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: MEDICAL QUESTION: How does saline spray work?

« on: September 20, 2014, 07:44:50 AM »

3500 milligrams of powdered unbuffered Vitamin C, taken 8 times a day, can cure a chronic sinus infection over a weekend.

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Impeachment of Roundy

« on: September 15, 2014, 03:06:16 PM »

Agreed.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Flat Earth Society Honorifics

« on: September 09, 2014, 09:39:33 AM »

I like the idea.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 08, 2014, 05:40:45 PM »

But their photos were password protected, so the door was locked.

Well, not really. A bad password is more akin to a door handle. It provides fantastic security assuming the person trying to break in doesn't have hands (Actually, that's untrue. My cat knows how to open doors, being the sneaky hacker that she is).

Our society is just painfully computer-illiterate.

Oh no, not this shit again.  Knowing how to break past password protections is not a good measure of computer literacy, and it's not certainly not comparable to not having hands.  This is just more arrogant - you know what, I've already said all this.  All I need to do is quote myself:

Hey, look, yet another thread in which people simply can't understand why their own area of interest/expertise isn't universally acknowledged as basic common knowledge and shared by the whole world.  I'd love to be present the next time one of you has car problems:

"What, you can't fix it?  You don't even know what the problem is?  You're actually calling a garage?  [Insert shitty "mfw Guest mehmay here]  But it's so easy!  It's objectively trivial to fix an engine and get a car running!  Any drooling retard could do it!  There are kids who can handle things like this easily, and you can't!  How do you even manage to feed yourself when you're this stupid?"

The car analogy wasn't a random example, by the way.  I've always been amused by how little overlap there is between computer and car enthusiasts, even though many of the arguments that computer nerds make about how their own interest is objectively better and more important than anyone else's could just as easily apply to cars as well as computers.  They're both incredibly important.  We use them both almost every day.  Modern society would most likely collapse without either of them.  And yet, precious few nerds would have the slightest idea of what they're looking at if they popped the hood of their car open, or how to proceed with fixing any problems with their car.  But of course, that kind of ignorance is totally okay.  You're only an incompetent idiot if you aren't a computer expert.

It has nothing to do with technology. Even in the early/mid-1800's when photography was invented, a 24 year old girl would have the good enough sense to know that it wasn't a prime idea to kneel on her knees in the nude and have herself photographed with a man's semen on her tongue.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 08, 2014, 03:01:46 PM »

"Trusted" boyfriends send around pictures to their friends. Ex-boyfriends will sometimes seek revenge.

Sure, that can totally happen if you date or dated an asshole. But then the woman is giving those pictures to the boyfriend and it's no longer a case of theft. This is just a plain case of theft, not of a douche ex sharing his pictures with his bros.

A boyfriend or an ex distributing your photos is a good reason not to take them in the first place, in addition risks of theft and hacking.

There are humiliating pictures of JL on her knees with semen on her face and in her mouth. I think an average girl knows enough by the age of 20 that it's probably not a good idea to take something like that.

This, always.

Some people have no choice but to live in a bad neighborhood. If they live in a bad neighborhood then they probably can't afford to have a good alarm system. It's not their fault for living in a bad situation and having someone take advantage of it.

I started the sentence with "If they chose".

When you choose to do something, with other better options available, the consequences of your bad choice is your fault. Bad people exist, and there is nothing you can do about it except take precautions. If you choose to leave your iPhone on the bar while you go to the restroom, when you find it missing it is your fault. If you leave $100 bills on your passenger seat and you find that your car has been broken into, it's your fault. If you move into a bad neighborhood to save money, even though you could afford to live in a good neighborhood, the consequences of that are your fault.

JL took embarrassing photos of herself, despite the many risks. The humiliation she receives is her fault. She can't remove the bad people from the world. She can't remove the risks. But she could have easily avoided the situation by not taking the photos.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 07, 2014, 07:42:30 PM »

This is definitely the argument of rational people. Conservatives, prudes, and victim-blamers are the only ones who think that if you don't want the entire world to see your nudes then you shouldn't take them.

I agree with taking your safety into your own hands by taking precautions, as in not going to a frat party and leaving your drink unattended. But this is not a case where anyone was asking for it. They took private nudes and had them password protected. It's like expecting no one to break into your house and steal your stuff. Sure, it might happen, but it's in no way anyone's fault for owning the house that was broken into.

There are a lot of reasons for them not to take the pictures. Phones get stolen. Servers get hacked. "Trusted" boyfriends send around pictures to their friends. Ex-boyfriends will sometimes seek revenge.

The crime is with the thief, no doubt. But these girls put themselves into their situation by taking photographs which could be used to embarrass or humiliate them.

But why should we care? Why does it make the crime any less gross, and why should it be a reason to be less sympathetic toward them? If it was their TV that was stolen you wouldn't be saying that they shouldn't have had such big windows.

If they chose to live in a bad neighborhoods, neglected to put in a good alarm system, and kept valuables in plain sight, yes, it would be their fault.

If you left your iPhone in plain sight at a bar while you left to use the restroom, and it was gone when you got back, whose fault would it be?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 07, 2014, 07:25:54 PM »

This is definitely the argument of rational people. Conservatives, prudes, and victim-blamers are the only ones who think that if you don't want the entire world to see your nudes then you shouldn't take them.

I agree with taking your safety into your own hands by taking precautions, as in not going to a frat party and leaving your drink unattended. But this is not a case where anyone was asking for it. They took private nudes and had them password protected. It's like expecting no one to break into your house and steal your stuff. Sure, it might happen, but it's in no way anyone's fault for owning the house that was broken into.

There are a lot of reasons for them not to take the pictures. Phones get stolen. Servers get hacked. "Trusted" boyfriends send around pictures to their friends. Ex-boyfriends will sometimes seek revenge.

The crime is with the thief, no doubt. But these girls put themselves into their situation by taking photographs which could be used to embarrass or humiliate them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 07, 2014, 07:04:30 PM »

No. The people who steal/hack/cheat must adjust themselves. It's just like when a girl is raped and people say "oh well she shouldn't have dressed like that" I mean, what the fuck? A criminal should have to adhere themselves to society, not society bending over backwards to ensure it doesn't taunt the criminal into crime.

A recently released ex-con is wandering the street and has rape on the mind. He has decided that he's going to rape someone tonight. It's late and he sees several possible targets walk past him. Who is he going to pull into the darkened alley; the girl who is dressed like Marry Poppins or one dressed in a Victoria's Secret Babydoll?

Criminals are going to exist no matter what. A rape attack is the criminal's crime. But it's the girls fault for putting herself in that situation (dressing as she does and walking alone in a seedy area).

Reddit is full of the same people who cry all the time about their privacy being invaded and then when given the chance to invade another's privacy 80% of the them were all aboard the nude pic train. If I went into an NSA thread and said "well maybe you guys shouldn't have computers and phones so the NSA wouldn't be tempted to record your stuff" I'd be downvoted into oblivion, but when someone says "oh they shouldn't have taken these pictures if they didn't want me to see them" actually has people agreeing? Goddamn imbeciles.

Well yeah, it is the NSA's crime for spying on Americans, but it's your fault for putting yourself in a situation which allows others to spy on you. If you don't want someone to read your emails you should send it encrypted, stenographated, or not at all. It's your fault if you send them in clear text and someone unintended sees it. It's not just the NSA who will listen in. There are rival businesses, chinese hackers, foreign governments, etc.

Telephone encryption doesn't really exist in wide adoption, but an answer to that might be to refrain from discussing your illegal ventures or bank account numbers over the telephone.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 07, 2014, 04:14:57 PM »

Taking the photographs that can be used to embarrass or humiliate you is a stupid decision all around.

That doesn't make it any less wrong for someone to steal those photographs and make them publicly available.

Bad people exist, that is a given. If you drive around with your life savings in $100 bills on your car's passenger seat, don't be surprised and outraged when your car is broken into.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 03, 2014, 08:36:14 PM »

My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.

So you're saying that celebrities shouldn't have any expectation to a private life? 

If they don't want to risk the chance that their naked photos will be seen by others the best idea is not to take those naked photos. It's not rocket science.

No, it's computer science.  Cloud providers shouldn't say that they are secure if they can be so easily hacked.

It's not just cloud providers being hacked. Someone can be looking over her shoulder and see her type in her password. Her phone can be stolen. The person she sends them to can share them with others against her wishes.

Taking the photographs that can be used to embarrass or humiliate you is a stupid decision all around.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 03, 2014, 06:07:52 AM »

My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.

So you're saying that celebrities shouldn't have any expectation to a private life? 

If they don't want to risk the chance that their naked photos will be seen by others the best idea is not to take those naked photos. It's not rocket science.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Celebrity picture scandal

« on: September 02, 2014, 05:34:35 AM »

My opinion on this matter is the same opinion I have on the ongoing NSA-Snowden leaks. If you don't want it leaked on the internet, DON'T DO IT.

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Ratification of the FES Constitution

« on: September 01, 2014, 02:24:42 AM »

If my plan for creating a html page where we could send a text message to all five council members was more widely supported, Tsunami could have sent out a call to vote, and we would have all voted on this by now.

However, Tsunami had to resort to email messaging, and this is what happened.

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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Ratification of the FES Constitution

« on: August 22, 2014, 05:19:07 AM »

I approve.